Disklavier

Hi Everybody, I have just recently purchased the dkc 850 upgrade. I am happy to report that this unit is everything that I had been expecting and more!! I have one problem with it. I cannot seem to get it to play
files through the analogue midi inputs. I am using a laptop with Vista. It will play the audio perfectly but the piano will not play along.
It is probably the operator!
I am wanting to purchase the squeezebox Duet system so that I can control all of my media from the handheld unit. I am hoping there is a way to play the disklavier files using this method. Any help would be appreciated.
In all other aspects I am very happy with the unit and highly reccomend it. The supplied manual does not explain the use for the analogue midi inputs properly.

Thanks in advance

Wayne

I'm curious about whether the lack of the floppy drive gives you any concern. I have many of those and Yamaha still seems to be selling a lot of their stuff on floppy. I know there is a floppy drive available to go with this unit but I am also under the impression that you have to get that unit and cannot just use a portable floppy drive. I have considering whether or not it would be worth it for me to purchase it.

Thanks!

--George                                                                     





________________________________

From: whitestarline123 <whitestarline123@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 11:07:20 AM
Subject: [disklavier] DKC850 upgrade unit

  
Hi Everybody, I have just recently purchased the dkc 850 upgrade. I am happy to report that this unit is everything that I had been expecting and more!! I have one problem with it. I cannot seem to get it to play
files through the analogue midi inputs. I am using a laptop with Vista. It will play the audio perfectly but the piano will not play along.
It is probably the operator!
I am wanting to purchase the squeezebox Duet system so that I can control all of my media from the handheld unit. I am hoping there is a way to play the disklavier files using this method. Any help would be appreciated.
In all other aspects I am very happy with the unit and highly reccomend it. The supplied manual does not explain the use for the analogue midi inputs properly.

Thanks in advance

Wayne

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 06:07:20PM -0000, whitestarline123 wrote:

> Hi Everybody, I have just recently purchased the dkc 850 upgrade. I am 
> happy to report that this unit is everything that I had been expecting 
> and more!! I have one problem with it. I cannot seem to get it to play 
> files through the analogue midi inputs. I am using a laptop with 
> Vista. It will play the audio perfectly but the piano will not play 
> along.

How are you preparing the material you're sending to the analog MIDI 
inputs?

If you're sending rips of Disklavier CDs, be aware that MP3 compression 
distorts the Disklavier control track too much, and this would cause the 
piano to play random garbage or nothing at all.  Using MP3 at a higher 
bitrate can help but usually still results in imperfect playback.

When storing files for transmission to a Disklavier's analog MIDI 
inputs, you must use lossless compression like FLAC (which is supported 
by the Squeezebox) or Apple Lossless.

Mark Fontana

Hi Everyone, Thank you for your prompt replys. I have taken a cd from the shelf and matched the purchased midi files to it using the midi2pianocd software. When i burnt the cd using the software it played beautifully through the units cd drive. the problem i have is when the files are put into i tunes the piano plays the audio perfect but the piano does not play along as it would when the cd is directly placed into the units cd drive.

I have a set of audio cables running from the laptops headphone jack to the analogue midi in jacks. I have not done anything else to the files. Maybe it is operator related! I might not have the correct settings set up in i tunes or the piano might not be set up right to accept the files.

I thank you all in advance.

wayne





________________________________
From: George F. Litterst <PianoBench@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 11 June, 2010 5:30:00 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] DKC850 upgrade unit

  
Good afternoon, everyone.

Wayne, have you done anything to audio? Has it become compressed? Or are you sending the audio straight from the CD to the piano over analogue MIDI? I would try the latter and see if that works.

Regards,
PianoBench

www.georgelitterst. com
www.timewarptech. com 

On Jun 10, 2010, at 2:07 PM, whitestarline123 wrote:

>
>
>
>  >
>
> 
>Hi Everybody, I have just recently purchased the dkc 850 upgrade. I am happy to report that this unit is everything that I had been expecting and more!! I have one problem with it. I cannot seem to get it to play
>>files through the analogue midi inputs. I am using a laptop with Vista. It will play the audio perfectly but the piano will not play along.
>>It is probably the operator!
>>I am wanting to purchase the squeezebox Duet system so that I can control all of my media from the handheld unit. I am hoping there is a way to play the disklavier files using this method. Any help would be appreciated.
>>In all other aspects I am very happy with the unit and highly reccomend it. The supplied manual does not explain the use for the analogue midi inputs properly.
>
>>Thanks in advance
>
>>Wayne
>
>

Greetings Wayne,

another thing to check is that you have the volume all the way up.
itunes has a setting somewhere to not let you accidentally change the
volume slider.

better yet is to dump itunes and use a good program. Media Monkey is
superior in all ways.

if you want to use an airport express to connect to the piano
wirelessly you can use a shareare program called "airfoil" to connect
any player such as media monkey to the airport. MM plays the airport
better than Apples own crappy program.

an even better solution is to use a dedicated little computer at the
piano and to use Team Viewer to do a remote desktop setup. TV is much
better than Windows remote desktop or remote assistance and also works
with Mac and Ipods and phones Media monkey also has an Iphone app

i have a summary article on using media monkey to play the LX piano on
my blog. http://spencersviews.blogspot.com/ i first set this up to
play a friend's DKV and it works beautifully. we even got Media Monkey
to catalog his entire MIDI collection and added meta data with some
utilities that i wrote for that purpose. he is a very happy DKV owner
now. he plays audio MIDI and original midi on his DKV and very good
audio on his stereo. we got this all together for a few hundred
dollars and he is very fussy because he has an excellent stereo
(mostly Mark Levinson)

Thursday, June 10, 2010, 6:26:13 PM, you wrote: >   
> Hi Everyone, Thank you for your prompt replys. I have taken a cd
> from the shelf and matched the purchased midi files to it using the
> midi2pianocd software. When i burnt the cd using the software it
> played beautifully through the units cd drive. the problem i have is
> when the files are put into i tunes the piano plays the audio
> perfect but the piano does not play along as it would when the cd is
> directly placed into the units cd drive.

> I have a set of audio cables running from the laptops headphone
> jack to the analogue midi in jacks. I have not done anything else to
> the files. Maybe it is operator related! I might not have the
> correct settings set up in i tunes or the piano might not be set up right to accept the files.

> I thank you all in advance.

> wayne


> From: George F. Litterst <PianoBench@...>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, 11 June, 2010 5:30:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] DKC850 upgrade unit

>   

> Good afternoon, everyone.

> Wayne, have you done anything to audio? Has it become compressed?
> Or are you sending the audio straight from the CD to the piano over
> analogue MIDI? I would try the latter and see if that works.

> Regards,
> PianoBench

> www.georgelitterst. com
> www.timewarptech. com

> On Jun 10, 2010, at 2:07 PM, whitestarline123 wrote:

>   
> Hi Everybody, I have just recently purchased the dkc 850 upgrade. I
> am happy to report that this unit is everything that I had been
> expecting and more!! I have one problem with it. I cannot seem to get it to play
> files through the analogue midi inputs. I am using a laptop with
> Vista. It will play the audio perfectly but the piano will not play along.
> It is probably the operator!
> I am wanting to purchase the squeezebox Duet system so that I can
> control all of my media from the handheld unit. I am hoping there is
> a way to play the disklavier files using this method. Any help would be appreciated.
> In all other aspects I am very happy with the unit and highly
> reccomend it. The supplied manual does not explain the use for the analogue midi inputs properly.

> Thanks in advance

> Wayne



>   
> 
 

-- Best regards,
 mailto:lists@spencerserolls.com 
67550 Bell Springs Rd. 
Garberville,CA 95542 Postal service only. 
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@... 
http://www.spencerserolls.com 
(707) 984-8356 
(707) 972-3149

Hello Everyone, Thanks again for all your invaluable assistance. I will now go away and try evrything mentioned. I will let you all know soon how it all has gone. Apart from this problem I am one happy dkv owner now. This unit has opened alot of doors for my instrument. It costed me 1,200 aussie dollars delivered from Japan brand new. I changed the box into english and everything has been great.





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From: Spencer_Lists <lists@...>
To: Wayne Garth <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, 11 June, 2010 1:51:38 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] DKC850 upgrade unit

  
Greetings Wayne,

another thing to check is that you have the volume all the way up.
itunes has a setting somewhere to not let you accidentally change the
volume slider.

better yet is to dump itunes and use a good program. Media Monkey is
superior in all ways.

if you want to use an airport express to connect to the piano
wirelessly you can use a shareare program called "airfoil" to connect
any player such as media monkey to the airport. MM plays the airport
better than Apples own crappy program.

an even better solution is to use a dedicated little computer at the
piano and to use Team Viewer to do a remote desktop setup. TV is much
better than Windows remote desktop or remote assistance and also works
with Mac and Ipods and phones Media monkey also has an Iphone app

i have a summary article on using media monkey to play the LX piano on
my blog. http://spencersviews.blogspot.com/ i first set this up to
play a friend's DKV and it works beautifully. we even got Media Monkey
to catalog his entire MIDI collection and added meta data with some
utilities that i wrote for that purpose. he is a very happy DKV owner
now. he plays audio MIDI and original midi on his DKV and very good
audio on his stereo. we got this all together for a few hundred
dollars and he is very fussy because he has an excellent stereo
(mostly Mark Levinson)

Thursday, June 10, 2010, 6:26:13 PM, you wrote: > 
> Hi Everyone, Thank you for your prompt replys. I have taken a cd
> from the shelf and matched the purchased midi files to it using the
> midi2pianocd software. When i burnt the cd using the software it
> played beautifully through the units cd drive. the problem i have is
> when the files are put into i tunes the piano plays the audio
> perfect but the piano does not play along as it would when the cd is
> directly placed into the units cd drive.

> I have a set of audio cables running from the laptops headphone
> jack to the analogue midi in jacks. I have not done anything else to
> the files. Maybe it is operator related! I might not have the
> correct settings set up in i tunes or the piano might not be set up right to accept the files.

> I thank you all in advance.

> wayne

> From: George F. Litterst <PianoBench@aol.com>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, 11 June, 2010 5:30:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] DKC850 upgrade unit

> 

> Good afternoon, everyone.

> Wayne, have you done anything to audio? Has it become compressed?
> Or are you sending the audio straight from the CD to the piano over
> analogue MIDI? I would try the latter and see if that works.

> Regards,
> PianoBench

> www.georgelitterst. com
> www.timewarptech. com

> On Jun 10, 2010, at 2:07 PM, whitestarline123 wrote:

> 
> Hi Everybody, I have just recently purchased the dkc 850 upgrade. I
> am happy to report that this unit is everything that I had been
> expecting and more!! I have one problem with it. I cannot seem to get it to play
> files through the analogue midi inputs. I am using a laptop with
> Vista. It will play the audio perfectly but the piano will not play along.
> It is probably the operator!
> I am wanting to purchase the squeezebox Duet system so that I can
> control all of my media from the handheld unit. I am hoping there is
> a way to play the disklavier files using this method. Any help would be appreciated.
> In all other aspects I am very happy with the unit and highly
> reccomend it. The supplied manual does not explain the use for the analogue midi inputs properly.

> Thanks in advance

> Wayne

> 
> 


-- Best regards,
mailto:lists@spencerserolls.com 
67550 Bell Springs Rd. 
Garberville,CA 95542 Postal service only. 
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@... 
http://www.spencerserolls.com 
(707) 984-8356 
(707) 972-3149

Good afternoon, everyone.

On Jun 10, 2010, at 2:07 PM, whitestarline123 wrote:

> Hi Everybody, I have just recently purchased the dkc 850 upgrade. I am happy to report that this unit is everything that I had been expecting and more!! 
> 

I have this unit, too, and mostly like it very much. However, if you are a Disklavier Pro owner like me, you should be aware that the unit does not fully support XP Pro data.

My original control unit provided me the ability to:

(1) record high resolution XP data
(2) playback high resolution XP data
(3) send XP data out the MIDI port
(4) receive XP data from the MIDI port

#2, #3, and #4 are missing from the DKC-850. I am told by Yamaha Corporation of America that there are no plans to change this situation.

So, I find myself in the odd situation of wanting to use the DKC-850 most of the time, but I have to reconnect the old control unit and go back to floppy disks if I want to enjoy performances from the Piano-e-Competition in full resolution.

I also have to reconnect the old control unit in order to calibrate the piano.

Regards,
PianoBench

www.georgelitterst.com
www.timewarptech.com

It's not available in the UK yet. It should come out later this summer

athomik

On Jun 12 2010, Gary Connoley wrote:

>
>Hi all
>anyone purchased a DKC850 upgrade unit in the UK, if so where from and how much?
>
>many thanks
>Gary
>
>On 10 Jun 2010, at 20:27, George Husson wrote:
>
>
>
>I'm curious about whether the lack of the floppy drive gives you any concern. I have many of those and Yamaha still seems to be selling a lot of their stuff on floppy. I know there is a floppy drive available to go with this unit but I am also under the impression that you have to get that unit and cannot just use a portable floppy drive. I have considering whether or not it would be worth it for me to purchase it.
>
>Thanks!
>
>--George
>
>
>________________________________
>From: whitestarline123 >
>To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 11:07:20 AM
>Subject: [disklavier] DKC850 upgrade unit
>
>
>
>Hi Everybody, I have just recently purchased the dkc 850 upgrade. I am happy to report that this unit is everything that I had been expecting and more!! I have one problem with it. I cannot seem to get it to play
>files through the analogue midi inputs. I am using a laptop with Vista. It will play the audio perfectly but the piano will not play along.
>It is probably the operator!
>I am wanting to purchase the squeezebox Duet system so that I can control all of my media from the handheld unit. I am hoping there is a way to play the disklavier files using this method. Any help would be appreciated.
>In all other aspects I am very happy with the unit and highly reccomend it. The supplied manual does not explain the use for the analogue midi inputs properly.
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Wayne
>
>
>
>
>

I can also validate your problem with my new DKC850 control unit.  I used to play CD Audio files from my iPod into my old control unit (that I converted from my Pianosoft Plus Audio CDs).  Always worked perfectly.  The DKC850 has an analog midi input, but when I connect my iPod to it, the audio plays perfectly, but NO piano part anymore.  I'm using the highest bit rate, wave files, etc.  Again, this worked perfectly with my old control unit.  Tried setting a few options in MIDI/Audio area, but no luck.  There are so many options on this unit for dealing withing MIDI/FIL types of files (USB, Internal Memory, Network, etc.).  Really gives you lots of options.   Besides feeding one CD at a time into the player :(, I hope they can figure out a way to add a little more flexibilty in a later firmware.  What would really be perfect if you could store your audio files on a USB drive and/or have the control unit access your network where you could store them.   

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Wayne Garth <whitestarline123@...> wrote:

>
> Hello Everyone, Thanks again for all your invaluable assistance. I will now go away and try evrything mentioned. I will let you all know soon how it all has gone. Apart from this problem I am one happy dkv owner now. This unit has opened alot of doors for my instrument. It costed me 1,200 aussie dollars delivered from Japan brand new. I changed the box into english and everything has been great.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Spencer_Lists <lists@...>
> To: Wayne Garth <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, 11 June, 2010 1:51:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] DKC850 upgrade unit
> 
>   
> Greetings Wayne,
> 
> another thing to check is that you have the volume all the way up.
> itunes has a setting somewhere to not let you accidentally change the
> volume slider.
> 
> better yet is to dump itunes and use a good program. Media Monkey is
> superior in all ways.
> 
> if you want to use an airport express to connect to the piano
> wirelessly you can use a shareare program called "airfoil" to connect
> any player such as media monkey to the airport. MM plays the airport
> better than Apples own crappy program.
> 
> an even better solution is to use a dedicated little computer at the
> piano and to use Team Viewer to do a remote desktop setup. TV is much
> better than Windows remote desktop or remote assistance and also works
> with Mac and Ipods and phones Media monkey also has an Iphone app
> 
> i have a summary article on using media monkey to play the LX piano on
> my blog. http://spencersviews.blogspot.com/ i first set this up to
> play a friend's DKV and it works beautifully. we even got Media Monkey
> to catalog his entire MIDI collection and added meta data with some
> utilities that i wrote for that purpose. he is a very happy DKV owner
> now. he plays audio MIDI and original midi on his DKV and very good
> audio on his stereo. we got this all together for a few hundred
> dollars and he is very fussy because he has an excellent stereo
> (mostly Mark Levinson)
> 
> Thursday, June 10, 2010, 6:26:13 PM, you wrote: > 
> > Hi Everyone, Thank you for your prompt replys. I have taken a cd
> > from the shelf and matched the purchased midi files to it using the
> > midi2pianocd software. When i burnt the cd using the software it
> > played beautifully through the units cd drive. the problem i have is
> > when the files are put into i tunes the piano plays the audio
> > perfect but the piano does not play along as it would when the cd is
> > directly placed into the units cd drive.
> 
> > I have a set of audio cables running from the laptops headphone
> > jack to the analogue midi in jacks. I have not done anything else to
> > the files. Maybe it is operator related! I might not have the
> > correct settings set up in i tunes or the piano might not be set up right to accept the files.
> 
> > I thank you all in advance.
> 
> > wayne
> 
> > From: George F. Litterst <PianoBench@...>
> > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Fri, 11 June, 2010 5:30:00 AM
> > Subject: Re: [disklavier] DKC850 upgrade unit
> 
> > 
> 
> > Good afternoon, everyone.
> 
> > Wayne, have you done anything to audio? Has it become compressed?
> > Or are you sending the audio straight from the CD to the piano over
> > analogue MIDI? I would try the latter and see if that works.
> 
> > Regards,
> > PianoBench
> 
> > www.georgelitterst. com
> > www.timewarptech. com
> 
> > On Jun 10, 2010, at 2:07 PM, whitestarline123 wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hi Everybody, I have just recently purchased the dkc 850 upgrade. I
> > am happy to report that this unit is everything that I had been
> > expecting and more!! I have one problem with it. I cannot seem to get it to play
> > files through the analogue midi inputs. I am using a laptop with
> > Vista. It will play the audio perfectly but the piano will not play along.
> > It is probably the operator!
> > I am wanting to purchase the squeezebox Duet system so that I can
> > control all of my media from the handheld unit. I am hoping there is
> > a way to play the disklavier files using this method. Any help would be appreciated.
> > In all other aspects I am very happy with the unit and highly
> > reccomend it. The supplied manual does not explain the use for the analogue midi inputs properly.
> 
> > Thanks in advance
> 
> > Wayne
> 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> -- Best regards,
> mailto:lists@... 
> 67550 Bell Springs Rd. 
> Garberville,CA 95542 Postal service only. 
> Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
> Spencer@... 
> http://www.spencerserolls.com 
> (707) 984-8356 
> (707) 972-3149
>

You could ask these people. I purchased mine from them.

http://www.pianodistributors.com/Midwest-Home.php

On Feb 22, 2011, at 8:29 AM, JORGE FERNANDEZ wrote:

> 
> I only have one problem with the DKC850.
> 
> It is still not available in Mexico (by Yamaha, according with my dealer)
> 
> Can any one give me any clues of when it will be ready here.
> 
> It seems to me that there is a problem with software licensing, so, no use to buy it in USA? Am i wrong?
> 
> R

If u cal find one and it will work and u can get it to Mexico then to  
h**l with the license issue .. It wouldn't be ur worry although u  
might be concerned about a valid warranty.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 22, 2011, at 9:48 AM, Stephen Medler <smedler@...> wrote:

> You could ask these people. I purchased mine from them.
>
> http://www.pianodistributors.com/Midwest-Home.php
>
> On Feb 22, 2011, at 8:29 AM, JORGE FERNANDEZ wrote:
>
> >
> > I only have one problem with the DKC850.
> >
> > It is still not available in Mexico (by Yamaha, according with my  
> dealer)
> >
> > Can any one give me any clues of when it will be ready here.
> >
> > It seems to me that there is a problem with software licensing,  
> so, no use to buy it in USA? Am i wrong?
> >
> > R
>