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Internet Radio Review

2011-05-08 by nehs1975

For folks who are currently subscribed to Yamaha's internet radio, I'd like to know your experience with it.  I haven't seen any Amazon.com-like review on the internet about it.  I'm thinking of upgrading to E3 or getting the DKC-850 to replace my unit.  The E3/DKC-850 desire is driven for the most part by the appeal of internet radio, and of course the convenience of USB.  I have Sirius satellite and find that selections, over time, tend to repeat to a point where you'd know you're listening to Sirius when you hear song selections/groups being played.  

Wondering if such is the case with Yamaha's internet radio? What else do you like with the internet radio aside from what's advertised as its selling points?

Re: [disklavier] Internet Radio Review

2011-05-08 by Dave Centurylink

Was listening to Dkv radio as I checked email. I love. Play it every day

Songs don't repeat that  often. And there are 20 plus channels   Overall I like it.  I have a c2 mark3 with dkc850

Dave smith

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On May 8, 2011, at 3:23 PM, "nehs1975" <nehs1975@...> wrote:

> For folks who are currently subscribed to Yamaha's internet radio, I'd like to know your experience with it. I haven't seen any Amazon.com-like review on the internet about it. I'm thinking of upgrading to E3 or getting the DKC-850 to replace my unit. The E3/DKC-850 desire is driven for the most part by the appeal of internet radio, and of course the convenience of USB. I have Sirius satellite and find that selections, over time, tend to repeat to a point where you'd know you're listening to Sirius when you hear song selections/groups being played. 
> 
> Wondering if such is the case with Yamaha's internet radio? What else do you like with the internet radio aside from what's advertised as its selling points?
> 
>

Re: Internet Radio Review

2011-05-09 by nehs1975

Dave, thanks for your reply.  I also have a C2 Mark III and seriously looking at replacing the piano with either DC2E3 piano (for softer, more accurate playback but much more expensive upgrade path) or replacing just the controller with DKC-850 (less expense).  Still debating what to do.





--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Dave Centurylink <dsmith941@...> wrote:
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> Was listening to Dkv radio as I checked email. I love. Play it every day
> 
> Songs don't repeat that  often. And there are 20 plus channels   Overall I like it.  I have a c2 mark3 with dkc850
> 
> Dave smith
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> On May 8, 2011, at 3:23 PM, "nehs1975" <nehs1975@...> wrote:
> 
> > For folks who are currently subscribed to Yamaha's internet radio, I'd like to know your experience with it. I haven't seen any Amazon.com-like review on the internet about it. I'm thinking of upgrading to E3 or getting the DKC-850 to replace my unit. The E3/DKC-850 desire is driven for the most part by the appeal of internet radio, and of course the convenience of USB. I have Sirius satellite and find that selections, over time, tend to repeat to a point where you'd know you're listening to Sirius when you hear song selections/groups being played. 
> > 
> > Wondering if such is the case with Yamaha's internet radio? What else do you like with the internet radio aside from what's advertised as its selling points?
> > 
> >
>

Re: [disklavier] Internet Radio Review

2011-05-09 by Phil Blah

Hello,

Well since you asked :) I originally thought the radio was expensive per month.. 
but I think it's a great idea for when you just get stuck in your music ways and 
just need someone else to choose the next song for you.

The only problem is many songs they have are great/fine... then you get this 
horrible song that needs to be banned, infact yamaha should be embarrised that 
even have it! - you all know those horrible cheasy mostly using the syth with a 
bad piano riff... god...

I really wish someone at yamaha would play a nice modern version of pop/movie 
songs, beautiful on the piano - (pop as in modern movie music [no the god father 
is old now and so is forest gump and ghost] or mostly a song that is not 
horrible that everyone hates.. or is like 40+ years old)... the song does NOT 
have to be the exact same beat/tempo... So many Madonna and even dead old 
michael jackson or other movie songs -  songs would be great properly played on 
the piano with feeling... 


If you ever search for midi's on the net, most of yamaha's radio on the pop 
section are like that.

With the classical section, most of these songs hammer the piano to death and 
make it go out of tune, sorry but classical songs are depressing and boring 
after a while, if you just want to clean the house or have a few friends over, 
you can't have them bashing away without annoying you and everyone else. - 
actually I don't mind classical music, but you just have to be in the mood and 
many of the yamaha songs are all robotic with no feeling. - I would rather the 
free classic songs played LIVE properly by people like Finley etc.

In the end, it's a fun service and it is addictive... the real thing that will 
take these pianos to 2011 is forget the horrible synths (yes i have a mark4) and 
stream proper audio with the midi... so you can have the live band playing and 
the original piano WAS a disklavier and so you ONLY hear your piano as the 
piano, not some crappy over the top thing. Hearing a human sing with a real 
drumkit and base is just excellent.

They stream waves in the demo tracks so it would not take much to just 
intergrate midi with it.

Anyway, just buy a month and see for yourself.

Cya

Philip







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From: nehs1975 <nehs1975@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 9 May, 2011 5:23:50 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Internet Radio Review

  
For folks who are currently subscribed to Yamaha's internet radio, I'd like to 
know your experience with it.  I haven't seen any Amazon.com-like review on the 
internet about it.  I'm thinking of upgrading to E3 or getting the DKC-850 to 
replace my unit.  The E3/DKC-850 desire is driven for the most part by the 
appeal of internet radio, and of course the convenience of USB.  I have Sirius 
satellite and find that selections, over time, tend to repeat to a point where 
you'd know you're listening to Sirius when you hear song selections/groups being 
played. 


Wondering if such is the case with Yamaha's internet radio? What else do you 
like with the internet radio aside from what's advertised as its selling points?

Re: [disklavier] Internet Radio Review

2011-05-09 by Kevin Goroway

I agree with all of what Phil said.  Although the "Live" channel does have live 
(played by a person) classical music which is much better than the classical 
station.

And, I do think it repeats songs a bit too often.  Out of interest, I kept track 
of every single song played for a while and came up with the total number of 
songs in rotation for each channel.  I was surprised at how low it was.  

On a technical note, *NONE* of this is actually "streamed", as in, played while 
it is downloading.  All of it is downloaded to the piano before it is played. 
 They pre-cache the next 2 things to be played, which is why the WAVs are ready 
to be played when required.  I don't think they are capable of streaming the 
WAVs in real-time...however, if they would add MP3 capabilities, the whole thing 
would be possible...

-Kevin



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From: Phil Blah <phil.blah@yahoo.com>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 6:55:28 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Internet Radio Review

  
Hello,

Well since you asked :) I originally thought the radio was expensive per month.. 
but I think it's a great idea for when you just get stuck in your music ways and 
just need someone else to choose the next song for you.

The only problem is many songs they have are great/fine... then you get this 
horrible song that needs to be banned, infact yamaha should be embarrised that 
even have it! - you all know those horrible cheasy mostly using the syth with a 
bad piano riff... god...

I really wish someone at yamaha would play a nice modern version of pop/movie 
songs, beautiful on the piano - (pop as in modern movie music [no the god father 
is old now and so is forest gump and ghost] or mostly a song that is not 
horrible that everyone hates.. or is like 40+ years old)... the song does NOT  
have to be the exact same beat/tempo... So many Madonna and even dead old 
michael jackson or other movie songs -  songs would be great properly played on 
the piano with feeling... 


If you ever search for midi's on the net, most of yamaha's radio on the pop 
section are like that.

With the classical section, most of these songs hammer the piano to death and 
make it go out of tune, sorry but classical songs are depressing and boring 
after a while, if you just want to clean the house or have a few friends over, 
you can't have them bashing away without annoying you and everyone else. - 
actually I don't mind classical music, but you just have to be in the mood and 
many of the yamaha songs are all robotic with no feeling. - I would rather the 
free classic songs played LIVE properly by people like Finley etc.

In the end, it's a fun service and it is addictive... the real thing that will 
take these pianos to 2011 is forget the horrible  synths (yes i have a mark4) 
and stream proper audio with the midi... so you can have the live band playing 
and the original piano WAS a disklavier and so you ONLY hear your piano as the 
piano, not some crappy over the top thing. Hearing a human sing with a real 
drumkit and base is just excellent.

They stream waves in the demo tracks so it would not take much to just 
intergrate midi with it.

Anyway, just buy a month and see for yourself.

Cya

Philip







________________________________
From: nehs1975 <nehs1975@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 9 May, 2011 5:23:50 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Internet Radio Review

  
For folks who are currently subscribed to Yamaha's internet radio, I'd like to 
know your experience with it.  I haven't seen any Amazon.com-like review on the 
internet about it.  I'm thinking of upgrading to E3 or getting the DKC-850 to 
replace my unit.  The E3/DKC-850 desire is driven for the most part by the 
appeal of internet radio, and of course the convenience of USB.  I have Sirius 
satellite and find that selections, over time, tend to repeat to a point where 
you'd know you're listening to Sirius when you hear song selections/groups being 
played. 


Wondering if such is the case with Yamaha's internet radio? What else do you 
like with the internet radio aside from what's advertised as its selling points?

Re: Internet Radio Review

2011-05-09 by kassey22000

I tried the 2 free D-Radio channels for a few weeks and have to agree that most of the pop songs have annoying midi accompaniment with silly syn-instrumentation.  I would dip my toe back into the stream'n d-radio if:  1. like Pandora, you could vote up or down individual tunes so they play more often or not at all.  This would also give the folks at D-Radio good consumer data on which tunes have merit.  
2. the live broadcasts conform to what Bill introduced to us here a few weeks back with real simultaneous broadcasts with streaming video of concerts.  
3. the monthly pricing falls more inline with XM, Pandora, and others.  



--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@...> wrote:
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> I agree with all of what Phil said.  Although the "Live" channel does have live 
> (played by a person) classical music which is much better than the classical 
> station.
> 
> And, I do think it repeats songs a bit too often.  Out of interest, I kept track 
> of every single song played for a while and came up with the total number of 
> songs in rotation for each channel.  I was surprised at how low it was.  
> 
> On a technical note, *NONE* of this is actually "streamed", as in, played while 
> it is downloading.  All of it is downloaded to the piano before it is played. 
>  They pre-cache the next 2 things to be played, which is why the WAVs are ready 
> to be played when required.  I don't think they are capable of streaming the 
> WAVs in real-time...however, if they would add MP3 capabilities, the whole thing 
> would be possible...
> 
> -Kevin
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Phil Blah <phil.blah@...>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 6:55:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Internet Radio Review
> 
>   
> Hello,
> 
> Well since you asked :) I originally thought the radio was expensive per month.. 
> but I think it's a great idea for when you just get stuck in your music ways and 
> just need someone else to choose the next song for you.
> 
> The only problem is many songs they have are great/fine... then you get this 
> horrible song that needs to be banned, infact yamaha should be embarrised that 
> even have it! - you all know those horrible cheasy mostly using the syth with a 
> bad piano riff... god...
> 
> I really wish someone at yamaha would play a nice modern version of pop/movie 
> songs, beautiful on the piano - (pop as in modern movie music [no the god father 
> is old now and so is forest gump and ghost] or mostly a song that is not 
> horrible that everyone hates.. or is like 40+ years old)... the song does NOT  
> have to be the exact same beat/tempo... So many Madonna and even dead old 
> michael jackson or other movie songs -  songs would be great properly played on 
> the piano with feeling... 
> 
> 
> If you ever search for midi's on the net, most of yamaha's radio on the pop 
> section are like that.
> 
> With the classical section, most of these songs hammer the piano to death and 
> make it go out of tune, sorry but classical songs are depressing and boring 
> after a while, if you just want to clean the house or have a few friends over, 
> you can't have them bashing away without annoying you and everyone else. - 
> actually I don't mind classical music, but you just have to be in the mood and 
> many of the yamaha songs are all robotic with no feeling. - I would rather the 
> free classic songs played LIVE properly by people like Finley etc.
> 
> In the end, it's a fun service and it is addictive... the real thing that will 
> take these pianos to 2011 is forget the horrible  synths (yes i have a mark4) 
> and stream proper audio with the midi... so you can have the live band playing 
> and the original piano WAS a disklavier and so you ONLY hear your piano as the 
> piano, not some crappy over the top thing. Hearing a human sing with a real 
> drumkit and base is just excellent.
> 
> They stream waves in the demo tracks so it would not take much to just 
> intergrate midi with it.
> 
> Anyway, just buy a month and see for yourself.
> 
> Cya
> 
> Philip
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: nehs1975 <nehs1975@...>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, 9 May, 2011 5:23:50 AM
> Subject: [disklavier] Internet Radio Review
> 
>   
> For folks who are currently subscribed to Yamaha's internet radio, I'd like to 
> know your experience with it.  I haven't seen any Amazon.com-like review on the 
> internet about it.  I'm thinking of upgrading to E3 or getting the DKC-850 to 
> replace my unit.  The E3/DKC-850 desire is driven for the most part by the 
> appeal of internet radio, and of course the convenience of USB.  I have Sirius 
> satellite and find that selections, over time, tend to repeat to a point where 
> you'd know you're listening to Sirius when you hear song selections/groups being 
> played. 
> 
> 
> Wondering if such is the case with Yamaha's internet radio? What else do you 
> like with the internet radio aside from what's advertised as its selling points?
>

Re: Internet Radio Review

2011-05-10 by sjhart110110

We really enjoy the Internet radio.  Also have it running on a DKC-850 on my DC3A. 

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "nehs1975" <nehs1975@...> wrote:
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> For folks who are currently subscribed to Yamaha's internet radio, I'd like to know your experience with it.  I haven't seen any Amazon.com-like review on the internet about it.  I'm thinking of upgrading to E3 or getting the DKC-850 to replace my unit.  The E3/DKC-850 desire is driven for the most part by the appeal of internet radio, and of course the convenience of USB.  I have Sirius satellite and find that selections, over time, tend to repeat to a point where you'd know you're listening to Sirius when you hear song selections/groups being played.  
> 
> Wondering if such is the case with Yamaha's internet radio? What else do you like with the internet radio aside from what's advertised as its selling points?
>

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