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RE: [dotcomformat] Chaining STG Voltage / Trigger Mini-Stores?

2010-02-09 by ty hodson

You and I have the same complement of Time Modules! Here’s a pic of the “sequencer side-car” I put together:
http://sublevel9.net/images/sublevel9_sequencer-sidecar.jpg

As I read your message, I thought of a way to get 16 steps using two VMSs. It’s a little clunky, and since it uses the front panel Shift Inputs it disengages the Mini-Stores from the Time Buffer’s buss. It also requires a Q962, a mult of some sort (I tested this using my Q121s in place of a mult) and an external clock source (like a Q106). The basic idea is to use the Q962 to bounce between the two VMSs with each step for a total of 16 steps. I hadn’t thought of this particular example before, but this sort of thing is precisely why I decided to stick my spare Q962 in with my Time Modules. Anyway, here goes:

Q106 (clock source)
à Mult
Mult #1
à Q962 Shift Input
Mult #2
à TMS Shift Input
Q962 Trigger Out #1
à VMS #1 Shift Input
Q962 Trigger Out #2
à VMS #2 Shift Input

I had to fiddle with things to get the stages lined up. Once it’s going, it’ll step through VMS #1 stage 1, VMS #2 stage 1, VMS #1 stage 2, VMS #2 stage 2, etc… for a total of 16 steps. Meanwhile, your TMS will go through its usual 16 steps.

Depending on what you plan to run the VMSs to, you might have to bring their Outputs back together using a Mixer or another Mult, especially if you’re feeding (say) a single oscillator. Variations abound, I’m sure…

I hope that helps get the wheels turning anyway! : )

ty

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From: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Irfon-Kim Ahmad
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 10:06 AM
To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [dotcomformat] Chaining STG Voltage / Trigger Mini-Stores?

Currently the only sequencing modules that I've got are from the STG
Soundlabs series -- the a Time Buffer, a Shift Manager, two Voltage
Mini-Stores and a Trigger Mini-Store. I actually quite like them and
find them fairly flexible. I've had a lot of fun playing with them.

I'm just wondering if anybody knows of an easy way (or a way that
doesn't use a lot of other modules, anyway) to chain the voltage
mini-stores to create longer sequences. The trigger mini-store has 16
steps, and the two voltage mini-stores have only eight steps. I'm
normally okay with this -- I basically use the two VMSs to control two
different parameters, such as pitch and filter cutoff, and the TMS to
create some rhythmic variation between one bar and the next. But once
in a while it would be nice to create just one sixteen-step sequence of
both voltages and triggers.

I did come up with a patch that created a sort of 16-step sequence by
running one with looping turned off and then retriggering it based on
the restart of the TMS, such that it would only trigger every other bar,
and mixing them, so that the first run through you get on the first bar
you get the mix of the two and on the second bar you get one of them by
itself. It's a pretty fiddly way to program a 16-step sequence of
voltages, though.

I'd thought that if I had a second Trigger Mini-Store I could set all
the switches to on in one column and all the switches to off in the
other column and use a pan/fade module to flip between the two VMSs, but
that requires another TMS, which is a really expensive module, a
pan/fade, which I don't have yet, and probably another shift manager,
which is also not THAT cheap -- it all adds up to about the price of a
Q119, really.

So I'm wondering if anyone else has any interesting ideas for this or if
there's a simpler way that I'm totally missing.

I'm thinking that maybe I need to build a toggle module that flips
between a numbered set of available sources based on a pulse rather than
a continuing value and mults the pulse back out. Then I could use the
first-position pulse from any of the VMs to switch between however many
of them I want, and that module would be useful for other things, I'm
sure. Does a module like that already exist?

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