MIDI Clock is a very bad syncronization medium, honestly. The source device can obviously have an effect on the timing, but so can the reciever, and the cable in between. The density of the data being sent can also delay clock (remember, MIDI can actually only send one message at a time over a single cable). A single device, therefore, can never trigger two events and expect those two events to be received and processed simultaneously by separate cables along the same signal chain. How this applies to the MD is simply that while elektron CAN make sure their internal timing is as accurate as possible, AND they can make sure that the data is sent in as accurate and stable a fashion as possible, the CAN NOT eliminate variables beyond that point. One cable to one device should be good, but if that 'cable' is routed through a PC or patchbay - all bets are off, because there is other software involved that is going effect a delay in transmission. With a hardware device, this clock delay should be relatively stable. With a PC, or a devce that is doing other MIDI processing or merging its internal data with the data received before output...then I'd bet MIDI clock would suffer terribly (and I have experienced just that with my MonoMachine controlling my PolyEvolver). Midi is really a 'send the data and hope for the best' protocol. At some point, it needs to be replaced with something more robust. When will that happen? Who knows...maybe never. In the meantime, you find work arounds, or live with its inadequacies. tony ________________________________ From: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:elektron-users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Niall Munnelly Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:07 AM To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [elektron] Re: THE MD SPS-1 timing debate issue On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 07:56:28AM -0500, Tarekith wrote: > > Until that huge thread on the Elektron forums, the only timing > complaints I remember reading about were people trying to sync the MD > to Ableton Live. Admittedly I've only had my MD for a year and a > half, but I did go through ALL of this lists archives and all of the > Elektron forums archives when compiling my tips and tricks document. > Never saw this huge out cry over the 'terrible' timing the MD has. :) For my own part, I'd always chalked it up to my imagination, because I'd already proven to my satisfaction that the clock was rock solid. It never occurred to me that playback and clock might be different until that thread on the forum. Anyway, if you don't hear it, cool. If it's not a big deal to you, okay. I think I've added to the noise in three different threads, counting this one, and can't add much more, so I'll just await Elektron's response. -- Yours, Niall. .. . . . . . . . . . Aleph Null. A Simple Insinuation Around Silence. http://aleph-null.net <http://aleph-null.net> .. .. gpg public key - http://aleph-null.net/niall.gpg <http://aleph-null.net/niall.gpg> .. ..
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RE: [elektron] Re: THE MD SPS-1 timing debate issue
2007-04-15 by Tony Scharf
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