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recording the locks one last time

2002-10-11 by oldmanfury

Thanks for the information Daniel - I appreciate your arguments, 
especially given the fact that you included numbers concerning the 
MIDI standard that I myself am not familiar with.

I still think that you could send CC's between 'note on' events.  
There is plenty of room between notes - at 120 BPM, there is 500 ms 
between note triggers - you could stick close to 500 CC's in there 
and never miss a beat.  Even at higher BPM - 180 for example, you 
could throw ~ 300 CC events between triggers.  I have never recorded 
this many paramter locks in a pattern - I think it must be rare that 
somebody does.  

If you were to go through all of the preset patterns that the MD 
ships with, I'm guessing that they would all play back nearly 
identically if you could record them with CC events placed in between 
notes.  I think that dropping CC's would be very rare.  Having 360 
parameter locks per step (or whatever the number is) is overkill for 
most music.  If I'm wrong, then point me at some mp3's that required 
this degree of control.  I'm glad to have that many locks - don't get 
me wrong - but I'd be happier if I could also export patterns with 
lock values to cubase.

I would also be happy to give up smooth sweeps in order to be able to 
record the parameter locks.  If I write a pattern that requires 
smooth sweeps, then I have no problem using the MD's internal 
sequencer to achieve this end.

Anyway - I really dig the MD, and I really appreciate the support 
(the new OS addresses just about every complaint aired in this forum, 
and adds a bunch of functionality as well).  How much room is left in 
the EPROM for additional upgrades?  Two things I'd like to see are a 
graphical representation of the dynamix compression curve, and a 16 x 
16 square grid representation of a pattern (like some drum machines 
have).

Keep up the excellent work.

-gerald

> And if you suggest we'd collect the CC's that are sent over between
> trigs that's not a very good idea as well, as that would prevent you
> from doing smooth sweeps from outside. Leaving us to a special NRPN
> system for trigs which would take more bandwidth and limit the 
number
> of possible locks even more.
>
> The MIDI channel business is a non issue here as it takes the same
> amount of time to transfer on any, and you can not transmit
> simultaneously, only serial, as MIDI is a serial protocol. And CC
> is faster than NRPN as NRPN generally is two CC messages.
> 
> I hope that the explanation above gives you a better idea of why we
> say it is "impossible" to allow the locks to be transmitted by MIDI,
> even though it could work acceptably in certain limited situations!
> 
> Daniel Hansson, Elektron

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