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Re: [elektron] Re: Re: help BIG song mode weirdness

2004-09-29 by Joe

On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 10:22:35AM -0400, Jonathan Lukens wrote:
>    I do. But it only works intermittently. Sometimes hitting stop once
>    seems to purge the last pattern from memory so that the cued pattern
>    will play correctly and sometimes I have to hit stop as many as 6 or 7
>    times.

hmmm.... definitely something wrong then. which sucks; intermittent
problems are difficult to find, much less solve.

>    It jumps to the end. And yes, it normally occurs after I have played
>    through the song a few times. (thankfully it hasn't happened at a show)

probably won't happen at a show unless you do the same song
several times.  but still, it needs to be fixed.  I think I've
talked to them about this before; they said the same thing as
above - they need to know how to recreate it to solve it.

>    On closer inspection it seems that the offset works correctly but
>    displays incorrectly. To reproduce: enter song edit mode, select a
>    pattern to play on step 000, offset it's length. Next enter song play
>    mode, and then number displayed in the length column will be the sum
>    off the number in the offset column and the remaining number of steps
>    in the pattern, ie if I have a 16 step pattern and offset to start on
>    4, the number 20 will be displayed; if I have a 32 step pattern and
>    offfset to start on 15, the number 57 will be displayed.

OK. I tried it. here's the problem: when your pattern length is less
than 64, the edit window doesn't change the length as you change
the offset.  so for example, when my pattern length is 64 and I set
the offset to be 16, the length is automatically set to 48 (and the
play window displays a stop position of 64, as it should).  BUT
when my pattern length is 40 and I set the offset to be 16, the
length stays set at 40 and the play window displays a stop position
of 56, which doesn't exist in the pattern.  so you need to account
for the length manually at present IF your pattern length is less
than 64.  the manual doesn't indicate anything regarding this, so
I would assume that it's a bug. at the heart of this is a greater
problem - song mode can be programmed to play sections of patterns
that aren't there!

>    I will work on making the others reproduceable before I reset. And post
>    my findings here. Thanks for your input.

definitely post here if you find a way to reproduce these problems
so that we can inspect them as well.

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