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SidStation Information

1999-12-02 by Daniel Hansson

Hi!

I'm sending out the SidStation newsletter also to this mailinglist, in
case some of you are subscribed only to this Onelist discussion
mailinglist, and not our information newsletter...

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SidStation praised!

We are very proud of the positive press reception of the SidStation. It
has been featured in music technology magazines spanning from Swedish
"Musiker Magazinet" to "Sound on Sound" - one of the best regarded
musicians publications in the world.

Quotes:

"How Does it Sound? Refreshingly different! The sounds of the SidStation
sport an incredible presence and power, without overloading the
arrangement as a whole. Without a doubt its main strengths lie in the
leads and phat timbres, with the legato lead-sounds being especially
convincing. Not forgetting the powerful, aggressive bass-sounds and
razor-sharp cutting sound effects, which also make the SidStation a very
special instrument."

Jan Haas, Keys (Germany)

"The modulation routings are surprisingly powerful, and the filter has a
sound all its own. - Overdriving it can result in some pleasantly gnarly
distorted sounds. - ...it is a cool little synth that makes unique and
effective sounds."

Mark Vail, Keyboard Magazine (USA)

"To sum up: I'm completely overwhelmed. This is the second time in my life
I've been this excited over a silvery box with knobs on. I\ufffdm convinced
that many, like me, will have huge chunks of fun with the SidStation."

Martin Nilsson, Musiker Magazinet (Sweden)

..."a striking example of retro-futurist styling it is - looking for all
the world like a remnant of Flash Gordon's spaceship. - The SidStation's
sound offers oomph and bite, and provides an excellent sonic complement to
clean-sounding modern instruments. And desp ite its grungy, lo-fi nature
it has a surprisingly versatile sonic character, from rich, fat and
in-yer-face to subtle and delicate, from wild and uncontrolled to calm and
gentle."

Simon G. Trask, Sound On Sound (UK)

It is great fun to see that the SidStation is now critically acclaimed as
well as having won the hearts of its many owners.

Please drop by our website to read the entire reviews, and listen to an
updated selection of SidStation demosounds.

Look out for the tasty new full-page ad in the December issue of Keyboard
Magazine (US) and the January issue of Future Music (UK)!

SID-chips are limited in supply. Don't miss the chance to sign up so that
you too can become a happy owner of the SidStation!

All the best,

Daniel Hansson
Elektron

Re: SidStation Information

1999-12-02 by Aaron J. Grier

On Thu, Dec 02, 1999 at 07:37:20PM +0100, Daniel Hansson wrote:

> SidStation praised!

I'm cursing mine at the moment.  "Completely operational" my ass.  It
reboots every 30 seconds or so if it's receiving MIDI sync and
asynchronous note data at the same time, no matter what I have sync set
at.  (As I had previously supposed...)  I don't have a fancy setup at
all: DX5 out connected to MSQ-700 in, MSQ-700 out to DX5 in, DX5 thru to
SIDStation in.  I can work around the problem by turning off the
MSQ-700's "mix-out" which keeps traffic on the in from being echoed to
the out, but then I don't get to hear anything from the SIDStation while
I'm sequencing...

I've got v1.000 R28 of the OS -- no upgrades appear to be available on
the sidstation.com web site, either.  What's up, elektron?

-- 
  Aaron J. Grier  | "Not your ordinary poofy goof." | agrier@...
   "I really admire your perverse mastery of the SPARC branch delay slot,
      Dave.  Or is it your mastery of the perverse branch delay slot?"
	          -- Joe Martin to Dave S. Miller on linux-kernel

Re: Re: SidStation Information

1999-12-03 by Johann H. Stoeten [Synthesized Dreams+Ni

> Strange thing... I haven't managed to reset my Sidstation one single time yet.
> /Bj\ufffdrn Fogelberg

... it seems to depend on the specific Machine... My SidStation also does sudden
resets from time to time - also I got several electric shocks from it (let's hope it's just some
extrastrange sort of electrostatic shock ...) - I have about 40 more or less strange Synthesizers
here in use but I expect that if they find me someday dead on the floor it'll be in front of the
SidStation.

But well, the SID is worth everything.

Johann
==============================================================
Johann H. Stoeten, D\ufffdsseldorf, Germany, dial+49-(0)211-7331082
primary email: stoeten@...,   icq# 27498416
"Synthesized Dreams + Nightmares" - WWW.SYNTHESIZED-DREAMS.COM
==============================================================

Re: Re: Re: SidStation Information

1999-12-03 by Henry Favretto

Did you check you power supply? My Sidstation came without a PSU so I 
bought one according to the recommendations in the manual (as far as I 
can remember it was something like 450mA/6V) but it caused problems 
(like random resetting...). So I returned the PSU and got another 
(adjustable) one , which now works fine. Just a thought...

Henry

>From: "Aaron J. Grier" <agrier@...>
>
>On Thu, Dec 02, 1999 at 07:37:20PM +0100, Daniel Hansson wrote:
>
> SidStation praised!
>
>I'm cursing mine at the moment.  "Completely operational" my ass.  It
>reboots every 30 seconds or so if it's receiving MIDI sync and
>asynchronous note data at the same time, no matter what I have sync 
>set at.  (As I had previously supposed...)  I don't have a fancy 
>setup at all: DX5 out connected to MSQ-700 in, MSQ-700 out to DX5 in, 
>DX5 thru to SIDStation in.  I can work around the problem by turning 
>off the MSQ-700's "mix-out" which keeps traffic on the in from being 
>echoed to the out, but then I don't get to hear anything from the 
>SIDStation while I'm sequencing...
>
>I've got v1.000 R28 of the OS -- no upgrades appear to be available 
>on the sidstation.com web site, either.  What's up, elektron?


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Re: Re: SidStation Information

1999-12-11 by Aaron J. Grier

On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 09:54:37AM +0000, Henry Favretto wrote:
> Did you check you power supply? My Sidstation came without a PSU so I 
> bought one according to the recommendations in the manual (as far as I 
> can remember it was something like 450mA/6V) but it caused problems 
> (like random resetting...). So I returned the PSU and got another 
> (adjustable) one , which now works fine. Just a thought...

I know that the sid chip is +5V, so I'm guessing that the +6V is run
through a power regulator to get +5V.  That's not very much margin for
power supply ripple -- I'll check out my crappy rat shack power supply
with an oscilloscope on Monday.

My question to the sidstation engineers: can I feed the sidstation a
higher voltage and not kill it?  (like 9 or 12V?  Also why didn't you
put in a diode to protect from reverse polarity power supplies?)  And
why oh why did you have to use those damn torx nuts for the case?  :)

-- 
  Aaron J. Grier  | "Not your ordinary poofy goof." | agrier@...
   "I really admire your perverse mastery of the SPARC branch delay slot,
      Dave.  Or is it your mastery of the perverse branch delay slot?"
	          -- Joe Martin to Dave S. Miller on linux-kernel

Re: Re: Re: SidStation Information

1999-12-14 by Daniel Hansson

On Sat, 11 Dec 1999, Aaron J. Grier wrote:

> I know that the sid chip is +5V, so I'm guessing that the +6V is run
> through a power regulator to get +5V.  That's not very much margin for
> power supply ripple -- I'll check out my crappy rat shack power supply
> with an oscilloscope on Monday.

Correct. The 6v is regulated to 5v. This is done with a
power-ultra-low-dropout power regulator with a lower regulating dropout
than most other such devices. Don't know why I picked it, but it looked
cool! :)

This also means that there is less heat emision from the SidStation than
would be otherwise.

> My question to the sidstation engineers: can I feed the sidstation a
> higher voltage and not kill it?  (like 9 or 12V?  Also why didn't you
> put in a diode to protect from reverse polarity power supplies?) 

There is protection for reverse power. You can feed it whatever voltage
you want. The regulator keeps the output at 5v. What happens is this:
The SidStation needs appr. 200mA static on 5v. Feeding it 10v means that
as much heat that is generated in the SidStation in whole will be
generated in the power regulator. Will probably be OK, but we haven't
tried it for extended time.

> And why oh why did you have to use those damn torx nuts for the case?
> :)

I passed it over to Torx-master Mikael. He thinks they look much cooler,
and therefore wanted to use them on the outside! :)

   __
__///Daniel Hansson           |   SidStation - MOS6581 Synthesis
\XX/ daniel@...   |         www.sidstation.com

Re: Re: Re: SidStation Information

1999-12-14 by Joeri Vankeirsbilck

Hi,


> > And why oh why did you have to use those damn torx nuts for the case?
> > :)
> I passed it over to Torx-master Mikael. He thinks they look much cooler,
> and therefore wanted to use them on the outside! :)

'cuase they thought these Torx would be much stronger... although I managed
to get the screws not work anymore anyway after opening it up 3 times...
:)))

Ciao,
Joeri
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Re: Re: Re: SidStation Information

1999-12-14 by Daniel Hansson

On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Joeri Vankeirsbilck wrote:

> > I passed it over to Torx-master Mikael. He thinks they look much cooler,
> > and therefore wanted to use them on the outside! :)
> 
> 'cuase they thought these Torx would be much stronger... although I managed
> to get the screws not work anymore anyway after opening it up 3 times...
> :)))

You must be too strong! :) Just remember not to screw them too tightly. 
I guess that is too late now. :)

We've opened machines up to 20 times here without them taking damage.

   __
__///Daniel Hansson           |   SidStation - MOS6581 Synthesis
\XX/ daniel@...   |         www.sidstation.com

Re: Re: Re: SidStation Information

1999-12-14 by Joeri Vankeirsbilck

Hi,

> > 'cuase they thought these Torx would be much stronger... although I managed
> > to get the screws not work anymore anyway after opening it up 3 times...
> > :)))
> You must be too strong! :)

Yeah sure... guess you haven't seen me yet. :)))
Mr Power... NOT! ;)  Just enough strengths to hit those keys on the keyboard...
that's where it ends.

> Just remember not to screw them too tightly.
> I guess that is too late now. :)

Yep... a little late right now. Anyway, it won't be necessary to open it again
now we have software updates.

Ciao,
Joeri
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