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syncing MD to Live - Again....

syncing MD to Live - Again....

2006-01-15 by houseisafeeling2004

So, I've read about a million posts about sync issues with Ableton Live and the MD.  Trying 
really hard to get my head around this but I just cant get the two to sync up and I'm not 
really getting anywhere with the 'track delay' settings, I don't even know if I'm using them 
correctly.

this is what I am doing...

 powerbook, motu 828, motu microlite midi-Running ableton live 5.  Live 5 sending sync 
out to MD.  Md is set to Tempo in --> External , Ctrl in-on. The MD displays the tempo as 
'EXT'

what I want to do....

Play the MD in pattern mode (from the MD interface), changing stuff around on the fly, in 
sync to audio drum loops playing with live.  I don't need to do anything in song mode/ 
using midi to trigger the MD (yet).

the way I have it set up now, a solid drum loop in Live is clearly out of sync with the MD .  I 
have tried adjusting the track delay on the audio track the MD is playing through, but have 
not sucessfully been able to get them matched up.  
Am I doing something wrong?  

is there a certain way to determine exactly what the track delay should be in a given 
situation?  
Would this setup be possible with the MD as master clock?  will that work?

will I just fiddle and fiddle and fiddle until someday I get the right settings but never 
understand how?

thank you thank you thank you for any advice you could offer.

cheers

Alex

Re: [elektron] syncing MD to Live - Again....

2006-01-15 by Lo-Fi Massahkah

Hi Alex,

 From what I gather the MD clock is more stable than Live. I think, 
though, that setting the MD as master will also make you start/stop from 
the MD rather than Live. Apart from that - what you aim to do should be 
achievable. Make a global setup on the MD to work as a midi master as 
well - don't ditch your old settings.

About the TRACK delay - I think you should rather work with the global 
MIDI delay setting in the options menu. Be sure to make adjustments for 
the actual midi port that you've hooked the MD to. I think track delay 
is mostly for VSTs rather than hardware (I might be wrong). On my last 
computer I fiddled a bit, but now I seem to be pretty much in sync 
without any messing with the delay settings.

Cheers,
Mikael

houseisafeeling2004 wrote:
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>So, I've read about a million posts about sync issues with Ableton Live and the MD.  Trying 
>really hard to get my head around this but I just cant get the two to sync up and I'm not 
>really getting anywhere with the 'track delay' settings, I don't even know if I'm using them 
>correctly.
>
>this is what I am doing...
>
> powerbook, motu 828, motu microlite midi-Running ableton live 5.  Live 5 sending sync 
>out to MD.  Md is set to Tempo in --> External , Ctrl in-on. The MD displays the tempo as 
>'EXT'
>
>what I want to do....
>
>Play the MD in pattern mode (from the MD interface), changing stuff around on the fly, in 
>sync to audio drum loops playing with live.  I don't need to do anything in song mode/ 
>using midi to trigger the MD (yet).
>
>the way I have it set up now, a solid drum loop in Live is clearly out of sync with the MD .  I 
>have tried adjusting the track delay on the audio track the MD is playing through, but have 
>not sucessfully been able to get them matched up.  
>Am I doing something wrong?  
>
>is there a certain way to determine exactly what the track delay should be in a given 
>situation?  
>Would this setup be possible with the MD as master clock?  will that work?
>
>will I just fiddle and fiddle and fiddle until someday I get the right settings but never 
>understand how?
>
>thank you thank you thank you for any advice you could offer.
>
>cheers
>
>Alex
>
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> 
>Yahoo! Groups Links
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RE: [elektron] syncing MD to Live - Again....

2006-01-15 by Duncan Fraser

Hi Alex,
 
I'm syncing MD from Live with the same settings you have without any
problem. Some other suggestions (although I'm sure you have these
covered but just in case):
 
i)                     Check that MD "Tempo Out" is on Off, and MD "Ctrl
Out" is on Off.  
ii)                   In Live Preferences settings, make sure your Midi
Sync box is "On" for the Output to your Motu midi interface, and that
the Motu input Sync box is "Off".
 
I haven't bothered with the track delay settings as I also believe that
these are meant for vst's and soundcard latency.  The midi signals from
Live to MD should already be fast enough. 
 
Good luck,
 
Regards,
 
Duncan
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Subject: Re: [elektron] syncing MD to Live - Again....
 
Hi Alex,

From what I gather the MD clock is more stable than Live. I think, 
though, that setting the MD as master will also make you start/stop from

the MD rather than Live. Apart from that - what you aim to do should be 
achievable. Make a global setup on the MD to work as a midi master as 
well - don't ditch your old settings.

About the TRACK delay - I think you should rather work with the global 
MIDI delay setting in the options menu. Be sure to make adjustments for 
the actual midi port that you've hooked the MD to. I think track delay 
is mostly for VSTs rather than hardware (I might be wrong). On my last 
computer I fiddled a bit, but now I seem to be pretty much in sync 
without any messing with the delay settings.

Cheers,
Mikael

houseisafeeling2004 wrote:

>So, I've read about a million posts about sync issues with Ableton Live
and the MD.  Trying 
>really hard to get my head around this but I just cant get the two to
sync up and I'm not 
>really getting anywhere with the 'track delay' settings, I don't even
know if I'm using them 
>correctly.
>
>this is what I am doing...
>
> powerbook, motu 828, motu microlite midi-Running ableton live 5.  Live
5 sending sync 
>out to MD.  Md is set to Tempo in --> External , Ctrl in-on. The MD
displays the tempo as 
>'EXT'
>
>what I want to do....
>
>Play the MD in pattern mode (from the MD interface), changing stuff
around on the fly, in 
>sync to audio drum loops playing with live.  I don't need to do
anything in song mode/ 
>using midi to trigger the MD (yet).
>
>the way I have it set up now, a solid drum loop in Live is clearly out
of sync with the MD .  I 
>have tried adjusting the track delay on the audio track the MD is
playing through, but have 
>not sucessfully been able to get them matched up.  
>Am I doing something wrong?  
>
>is there a certain way to determine exactly what the track delay should
be in a given 
>situation?  
>Would this setup be possible with the MD as master clock?  will that
work?
>
>will I just fiddle and fiddle and fiddle until someday I get the right
settings but never 
>understand how?
>
>thank you thank you thank you for any advice you could offer.
>
>cheers
>
>Alex
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>  
>


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