Elektron Musical Instruments

I think it is important when talking of timing to distinguish between Midi clock timing and sample accurate timing of audio, anyone who thinks any computer be it Mac or PC has good midi timing is deluding themselves, the only time that I can see this changing is when someone writes an operating system that is designed for music from the ground up.

Because Windows and OSX have far more going on in the background than any hardware specifically designed for the purpose (like for example the MD) even the best written software has sloppy timing compared to hardware.

And the TR-808 as Daniel correctly observes does not have tight timing, what it does have is a pleasing feel that somehow sounds "right" 

It always makes me laugh when people bang on about timing and they are creating music on a computer and using CC's for edits, multiple audio tracks, numerous plug-ins, etc.

I can't fault the timing in my set-up, because I choose my equipment carefully and know how to get the best from it, I don't use my computer for anything timing related, just for recording audio, all sequencing is done with hardware and its fantastic.


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--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, fierce fish <fiercefish@...> wrote:
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> I think it is important when talking of timing to distinguish
between Midi clock timing and sample accurate timing of audio, anyone
who thinks any computer be it Mac or PC has good midi timing is
deluding themselves, the only time that I can see this changing is
when someone writes an operating system that is designed for music
from the ground up.
> 
> Because Windows and OSX have far more going on in the background
than any hardware specifically designed for the purpose (like for
example the MD) even the best written software has sloppy timing
compared to hardware.
> 
> And the TR-808 as Daniel correctly observes does not have tight
timing, what it does have is a pleasing feel that somehow sounds "right" 


hi, just a note on the 808, that right feeling is the sound of a tight
drum machine!
i tested it and got these results 
(note samples @ 96khz 120 bpm)
TR 808 every step trigger on.

samples ms
12117 .126
12316 .128
12316 .128
12316 .128
12315 .128
12316 .128
12315 .128
12316 .128
12313 .128
12316 .128
12314 .128
12316 .128
12315 .128
12316 .128
12320 .128
12312 .128

cheers.

> 
> It always makes me laugh when people bang on about timing and they
are creating music on a computer and using CC's for edits, multiple
audio tracks, numerous plug-ins, etc.
> 
> I can't fault the timing in my set-up, because I choose my equipment
carefully and know how to get the best from it, I don't use my
computer for anything timing related, just for recording audio, all
sequencing is done with hardware and its fantastic.

> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

--- fierce fish <fiercefish@...> schrieb:

And the TR-808 as Daniel correctly observes does not
> have tight timing, what it does have is a pleasing
> feel that somehow sounds "right" 
>

thats not true..the 808 is very acurate in general but
sometimes looses a beat for unknown reasons..so evry 2
or 4 bars one 16th hit is off up to 2ms..the rest is
sample acurate...so one of the tightest machines of
the all... the iregular wrong hit is rather groove
than the errous nervous jitter on computer clocked
systems...







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