Elektron Musical Instruments

hi all!

i'm brand-new to the group, and to the MM SFX60 MKII, so bear with me
if i'm asking a silly question. i've been studying the manual for an
hour or two tonite, and i'm not finding a solution (or cause) to my
problem.

thus far, i have created a single pattern that i'm happy with, and
it's stored at "E01". it contains a simple kick drum, and a bassline.
that's it. now, after having tweaked the pitch, the filter, the wave
data (Unison, all that good stuff), i've used the save function in the
global menu to store my kit. as i understand it, the MM stores pattern
data (notes and such) automatically, while "patch" edits (cutoff, LFO,
sample rate reduction, etc.), must be saved within a kit.

anyway, all of that goes according to plan. where i begin to veer off
the tracks is here: i switch to a different pattern, any of the
factory "preset" patterns, and let it play (A01, for example). while
it's playing, i attempt to queue up my own pattern (E01), so it will
play immediately following. well, it loads up and begins play, but the
specific edits i've done (filter, pitch, LFOs, etc.) are never loaded,
so while the note and step data is correct, everything else sounds
completely different than what i originally programmed. to make things
more confusing, if i attempt to "screw around" with my pattern a bit
(pushing the step keys, sometimes just selecting the track itself), my
original edits magically reappear and everything within the currently
selected track goes back to how it was when i last saved. i have to do
this for both my bass and drum tracks separately in order to return
them to normal. as soon as i queue up a different pattern and come
back, it does the same thing all over again.

before you ask, i am certain i have saved, as i've gone thru this
about 10 times now, trying to figure out what's causing this. i can
always get my edited tracks back, but only after the aforementioned
fiddling. to condense my previous example, if i load up A01 and then
B08 and then come back to A01, it sounds just as it did a moment ago.
if i do this with my pattern (E01 to B08 and then back), it sounds
screwed up.

is there some really obvious step i'm missing? i've not gotten my head
around Parameter Locks and all of that yet, but i can't imagine that
that's my problem. anyone care to shed some light on this? 

thanks very much for any help you all can provide!

i don't think you are saving the kit in the right place. global menu is for utility stuff.. 
routing/midi etc. see the manual under "loading/saving a kit"

SAVING AND NAMING A KIT
1. Open the kit window.
2. Use the arrow keys to move to the "SAVE" icon. Press [ENTER/YES] to
open the KIT SAVE menu.
3. The screen presents a list of the kits stored in memory. Use the [UP] and
[DOWN] keys to choose from the 128 kit slots. Press [ENTER/YES] to
select the slot where you want to save your kit.
4. The next window appearing will allow you to name the kit. Use the LEVEL
encoder or the [UP] and [DOWN] keys to cycle through the letters. The
[LEFT] and [RIGHT] keys move the cursor backwards and forwards on
the line. Pressing the [FUNCTION] key gives access to the "high score"
selection method, in which you see all characters at the same time. Keep
the [FUNCTION] key held while navigating using the [CURSOR] keys.
Release the [FUNCTION] key, when you have located the letter of your
choice.
5. When the kit naming procedure is completed, press [ENTER/YES] to
save it.
6. If you want to exit without saving the kit, press [EXIT/NO].

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "arthurread2000" <arthurread2000@...> wrote:

>
> hi all!
> 
> i'm brand-new to the group, and to the MM SFX60 MKII, so bear with me
> if i'm asking a silly question. i've been studying the manual for an
> hour or two tonite, and i'm not finding a solution (or cause) to my
> problem.
> 
> thus far, i have created a single pattern that i'm happy with, and
> it's stored at "E01". it contains a simple kick drum, and a bassline.
> that's it. now, after having tweaked the pitch, the filter, the wave
> data (Unison, all that good stuff), i've used the save function in the
> global menu to store my kit. as i understand it, the MM stores pattern
> data (notes and such) automatically, while "patch" edits (cutoff, LFO,
> sample rate reduction, etc.), must be saved within a kit.
> 
> anyway, all of that goes according to plan. where i begin to veer off
> the tracks is here: i switch to a different pattern, any of the
> factory "preset" patterns, and let it play (A01, for example). while
> it's playing, i attempt to queue up my own pattern (E01), so it will
> play immediately following. well, it loads up and begins play, but the
> specific edits i've done (filter, pitch, LFOs, etc.) are never loaded,
> so while the note and step data is correct, everything else sounds
> completely different than what i originally programmed. to make things
> more confusing, if i attempt to "screw around" with my pattern a bit
> (pushing the step keys, sometimes just selecting the track itself), my
> original edits magically reappear and everything within the currently
> selected track goes back to how it was when i last saved. i have to do
> this for both my bass and drum tracks separately in order to return
> them to normal. as soon as i queue up a different pattern and come
> back, it does the same thing all over again.
> 
> before you ask, i am certain i have saved, as i've gone thru this
> about 10 times now, trying to figure out what's causing this. i can
> always get my edited tracks back, but only after the aforementioned
> fiddling. to condense my previous example, if i load up A01 and then
> B08 and then come back to A01, it sounds just as it did a moment ago.
> if i do this with my pattern (E01 to B08 and then back), it sounds
> screwed up.
> 
> is there some really obvious step i'm missing? i've not gotten my head
> around Parameter Locks and all of that yet, but i can't imagine that
> that's my problem. anyone care to shed some light on this? 
> 
> thanks very much for any help you all can provide!
>

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "dayjob111" <dayjob111@...> wrote:
>
> i don't think you are saving the kit in the right place. global menu
is for utility stuff.. 
> routing/midi etc. see the manual under "loading/saving a kit"

yeah, sorry about the typo. i was in fact, saving to the Kit menu, i
just punched in the wrong word. a few of the users on the
elektron-users website threw out a few suggestions on solving my
original problem, and one of them seemed to fix it. for some reason,
only the AMP trig was being highlighted when i was initially recording
my pattern. highlighting all three trigs (AMP/FILTER/LFP) solved the
problem and kept my sounds even as i switched patterns. thanks to
everyone for reading!