> -----Original Message-----
> From: Catilyne [mailto:catilyne@...]
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 5:06 PM
> To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [elektron] Re: OT Live Performance with Electronics (was: I AM
> SAD!)
>
>
> At 06:40 AM 9/29/2002 +0000, endlessnessisticman wrote:
>
> >I saw Monolake in Detroit at this small gallery.
>
> I saw him last year during the Transmissions electronic music
> festival here
> in Chicago. It was that concert that made up my mind to put together a
> laptop setup. I hadn't even heard of Monolake previously, but
> the set was
> awesome.
>
> >He was sitting behind a table with is ibook apple whatever with some
> >midi controler. I'm not sure what controler though. It had about 36
> >knobs or more.
>
> Probably one of the Doepfer units. The name of that huge one they
> manufacture escapes me just now, but I'm sure somebody on the list knows
> the one to which I'm referring...
The name: Drehbank
> >Even my favorite live pa group
> >Spacelings and Bassheads could seem boring to watch. They just sound
> >good. You can't see anything anyway. Hey, put your hand on the knob
> >and wave your other hand, yo. It's all about how you interact with
> >the crowd.
>
> I think there are (at least) two different points I'd like to bring up
> here. First, compared in general to the other instruments of
> your typical
> "rock" ensemble, keyboards/synths are pretty boring to watch. It doesn't
> matter if you're editing a laptop with a mouse or tweaking the filter on
> your 303 or Sidstation. From the audience perspective it's all tweezy
> gearhead stuff so hardware vs. software makes little difference. There's
> just very little you can do to look interesting when surrounded
> by racks of
> keyboards and gear. Heck, Keith Emerson used to douse his in
> lighter fluid
> and set them on fire, and even *that* wasn't very entertaining.
Depends of tastes...
> To some extent you can mitigate this with alternate controllers,
True...
> although a
> guy with a keyboard strapped around his neck still looks dorky as hell
> (and, in the case of instruments such as the Moog Liberation, ready for a
> trip to the chiropractor). Some guitar or drum controllers can help make
> things a bit more interesting. The key here seems to be to get the
> audience's attention away from that stationary rack of equipment.
Offff question of Setup alll the Spaghettic with Tortellini... Echo fatto...
> Either getting or becoming a good front man is a viable strategy.
> Many of
> the best examples of good "rock"-style concerts by electronic groups are
> those who realize this. For example, Bill Leeb of FLA does a lot
> playing/programming onstage, but he spends even more time frenetically
> bouncing around with a microphone at the front of the stage. And can you
> imagine what Skinny Puppy would have been like live without Ogre's antics
> to keep your attention visually?
True... Moving on the scene is defenitly cool!!!
> The second, and more important, point to bring up here is what
> exactly are
> you trying to accomplish with your live show? The whole point is
> to create
> an environment in which both you and your audience can interact.
But don't call tthe audiance to tweek the instruments!!!
I saw a guy who permitted himslef to go on stage and touched the gears...
Lol... Ha ha ha sounded so funny and so "unknowledgable"!!!
Killed all the atmosphere...
At the end... He was knocked on head by Big Monsters!!! Lol... Huge
Performance!!!
The atmosphere came back... People where Huge Happy to see the guy dumped
out.......
=; D
> If you
> can put on a visually interesting conventional show and that's
> your thing,
> then go for it. But that doesn't have to be the only type of performance
> acceptable.
It's a Bonus...
> Monolake's performance in an art gallery would be a good example
> of a show
> of a different type -- detached, but creating an overall ambience
> where the
> space itself is the center of your attention. This type of
> performance if
> very much more like an art installation in and of itself.
Oh la laaaaaaaaaa...
> Others prefer to use extra elements, such as video projection, to provide
> interesting visuals. At that point, the show almost becomes an
> improvised
> soundtrack to the images playing across the stage. I've seen electronic
> groups such as SPK, Chris & Cosey, Severed Heads, and Psychic TV all use
> this method to good effect.
> In an entirely different vein, I can remember seeing the Crystal Method
> after they released Vegas a few years ago. Almost immediately, everyone
> was sucked out on the dancefloor and became caught up in this sort of
> shared tribal experience. By the second song, the performers themselves
> were moot and could have disappeared entirely, so nobody really
> cared what
> was going on onstage.
Fourth time i listen that Crytal Method are crappy in their Live Acts!!!
Crytal Methods seems to suck defenitly!!!
> Overall, though, if you merely want to do the rock-&-roll thing to feed
> your ego onstage, then you're probably better off growing your
> hair out and
> buying a guitar. Instead, think of it as taking your audience on a
> trip. Where would you like them to go? How will you get them there?
An exemple i would say... Nine Inch Nails... All is said!!! !!! !!!
> -c-
>
> _____
> "i want to reach my hand into the dark and *feel* what reaches back"
> -recoil
He heeeee Can't resist...
I want to reach my Anakonda into YOUR dark and feel HOW it reaches back...
Ciao
Moreno