Elektron Musical Instruments

Yeah, I'm having bad problems too, with Cubase VST5/32 generally in terms of timing:-

1) Has anyone found Cubase SX to be better? (I'm about to upgrade)
2) Does the Midex midi interface improve things much, or just a gimmick? (I'm using an Emagic AMT8, but not with Logic)

From all that I've read, seems you have to sync Cubase to the MD, but then its dependent on how effecient / responsive your pc, soundcard ASIO drivers and midi interface are...

3) Does anyone have an example system that gives tight sync between Cubase and the MD?

Thx, Andy
www.neuroport.net

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jasper de Jong 
  To: elektron 
  Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:53 PM
  Subject: [elektron] Syncing MD, Cubase and other gear


  Hi!

  I'm the lucky owner of a MD since a few days now and I finally got to
  experiment the use of the MD and Cubase. I knew Cubase has everything but a
  tight MIDI clock timing, but this is badd...
  What do you reckon to be the best setup?
  I want to slave more machines (like the Virus and my 03D) to the same sync
  channel as the MD and Cubase, but then the timing is awfull...
  If I sync Cubase to the MD, MD is tight as hell, but the rest is crap.

  Any solutions thought of my other MD users?

  Thanks!

  Jasper


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Try usb devices like for instance Midi-man's Midi sport . They have the best midi timing as far as i know!

greetz Mario

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andy D 
  To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 10:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [elektron] Syncing MD, Cubase and other gear


  Yeah, I'm having bad problems too, with Cubase VST5/32 generally in terms of timing:-

  1) Has anyone found Cubase SX to be better? (I'm about to upgrade)
  2) Does the Midex midi interface improve things much, or just a gimmick? (I'm using an Emagic AMT8, but not with Logic)

  From all that I've read, seems you have to sync Cubase to the MD, but then its dependent on how effecient / responsive your pc, soundcard ASIO drivers and midi interface are...

  3) Does anyone have an example system that gives tight sync between Cubase and the MD?

  Thx, Andy
  www.neuroport.net
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jasper de Jong 
    To: elektron 
    Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:53 PM
    Subject: [elektron] Syncing MD, Cubase and other gear


    Hi!

    I'm the lucky owner of a MD since a few days now and I finally got to
    experiment the use of the MD and Cubase. I knew Cubase has everything but a
    tight MIDI clock timing, but this is badd...
    What do you reckon to be the best setup?
    I want to slave more machines (like the Virus and my 03D) to the same sync
    channel as the MD and Cubase, but then the timing is awfull...
    If I sync Cubase to the MD, MD is tight as hell, but the rest is crap.

    Any solutions thought of my other MD users?

    Thanks!

    Jasper


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Once upon a time, Andy wrote:

> 1) Has anyone found Cubase SX to be better? (I'm about to upgrade)

Normally I am a Logic user, but I bought the Cubase SX Crossgrade
because the price was really nice.

Cubase SX 1.05 and my MD are very tight.  I made sure to remove the
port filtering in Cubase, so that non-emulated MIDI ports show up in
in the device list.  Using emulated ports could be a cause of erratic
timing in SX.


> 3) Does anyone have an example system that gives tight sync between Cubase and the MD?

Yes, mine is Cubase SX 1.05. MIDI interface is a Unitor 8 mkII.  What other
details would you like?


-- 
Best regards,
Adam Watson

soundwithin
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Hi!

> Cubase SX 1.05 and my MD are very tight.  I made sure to remove the
> port filtering in Cubase, so that non-emulated MIDI ports show up in
> in the device list.  Using emulated ports could be a cause of erratic
> timing in SX.

Mmm, what exactly do you mean by this? Can't find this setting anywhere...
So, do you sync cubase to the MD or vise versa?

Thanks,

Jasper

Once upon a time, Jasper wrote:

>> Cubase SX 1.05 and my MD are very tight.\ufffd I made sure to remove the
>> port filtering in Cubase, so that non-emulated MIDI ports show up in
>> in the device list.\ufffd Using emulated ports could be a cause of erratic
>> timing in SX.

JdJ> Mmm, what exactly do you mean by this? Can't find this setting anywhere...
JdJ> So, do you sync cubase to the MD or vise versa?

It's not a setting, per se.  Instead of me repeating the instructions,
just check this thread on the Cubase.net forums:

http://forum.cubase.net/forum/Forum2/HTML/029730.html


Hope it helps...


-- 
Best regards,
Adam Watson

soundwithin
www.soundwithin.net

I thought that the machindrum had timing problems when acting as a slave? Or 
was that sorted in an os update?






>From: Adam Watson <adam@...>
>Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>To: Jasper de Jong <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re[4]: [elektron] Syncing MD, Cubase and other gear
>Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 16:55:41 -0500
>
>Once upon a time, Jasper wrote:
>
> >> Cubase SX 1.05 and my MD are very tight.\ufffd I made sure to remove the
> >> port filtering in Cubase, so that non-emulated MIDI ports show up in
> >> in the device list.\ufffd Using emulated ports could be a cause of erratic
> >> timing in SX.
>
>JdJ> Mmm, what exactly do you mean by this? Can't find this setting 
>anywhere...
>JdJ> So, do you sync cubase to the MD or vise versa?
>
>It's not a setting, per se.  Instead of me repeating the instructions,
>just check this thread on the Cubase.net forums:
>
>http://forum.cubase.net/forum/Forum2/HTML/029730.html
>
>
>Hope it helps...
>
>
>--
>Best regards,
>Adam Watson
>
>soundwithin
>www.soundwithin.net
>
>
>
>
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Once upon a time, Polyhex wrote:

P> I thought that the machindrum had timing problems when acting as a slave? Or 
P> was that sorted in an os update?

Not here.  I am consistantly synching as slave from both Logic and
Cubase SX and have no timing problems.

Have had no problems in OS 1.11, and still works good in OS 1.12...

What problems have you heard of?

----
Best regards,
Adam Watson

soundwithin
www.soundwithin.net

***AFAIK This just could be me getting confused.....

>What problems have you heard of?

I thought I had read that there was some trigger delay problem when slaving 
the MD, leaving it constantly sounding late...

But if it works fine with you, it can't be the case.....






>From: Adam Watson <adam@...>
>Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>To: "Polyhex ." <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re[6]: [elektron] Syncing MD, Cubase and other gear
>Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 23:24:12 -0500
>
>Once upon a time, Polyhex wrote:
>
>P> I thought that the machindrum had timing problems when acting as a 
>slave? Or
>P> was that sorted in an os update?
>
>Not here.  I am consistantly synching as slave from both Logic and
>Cubase SX and have no timing problems.
>
>Have had no problems in OS 1.11, and still works good in OS 1.12...
>
>What problems have you heard of?
>
>----
>Best regards,
>Adam Watson
>
>soundwithin
>www.soundwithin.net
>


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Hi,

I am running cubase SL and it's WORSE!!!!!!! I'm taking it back to the shop and swapping for Logic, even though they wont develop for the pc anymore.

Good luck,
Thinking Happy Thoughts
Amos

Hi!

Mmm, not very good news... So how do most of you guys sync the MD to your
sequencer??

Thanks,

Jasper

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From: <amosluyk@...>
To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [elektron] Syncing MD, Cubase and other gear


> Hi,
>
> I am running cubase SL and it's WORSE!!!!!!! I'm taking it back to the
shop and swapping for Logic, even though they wont develop for the pc
anymore.

>
> Good luck,
> Thinking Happy Thoughts
> Amos
>
>
>
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>

At 09:09 PM 1/6/2003 +0000, Andy D wrote:

>3) Does anyone have an example system that gives tight sync between Cubase 
>and the MD?

I've got an old Atari 1040ST running Cubase through a Steinberg SMP24 
SMPTE-sync/MIDI-expander.  That's got as tight a lock as anything I've ever 
used -- regardless of whether you're talking software or hardware.  Rock 
solid; can't beat it.

In fact, if I were sticking with only MIDI (and not so many VSTi's), I'd 
probably chuck everything else and just use that as the brain of my setup.

         -c-

_____
"i want to reach my hand into the dark and *feel* what reaches back"
                                                 -recoil

Hi!

Actually, I used an Atari too until last year. I got rid of the atari
because of lack of space and I was recording to my pc anyway...

Now to get a bit more ontopic, I changed the preroll parameter in cubase and
it's a lot better now. Not rock-steady, but okay enough for the moment. I
think I'm gonna get a midex interface, that has this hardware timing control
thing...

Thanks all, for your help!!

Jasper


----- Original Message -----
From: Catilyne <catilyne@...>
To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [elektron] Syncing MD, Cubase and other gear


> At 09:09 PM 1/6/2003 +0000, Andy D wrote:
>
> >3) Does anyone have an example system that gives tight sync between
Cubase
> >and the MD?
>
> I've got an old Atari 1040ST running Cubase through a Steinberg SMP24
> SMPTE-sync/MIDI-expander.  That's got as tight a lock as anything I've
ever

> used -- regardless of whether you're talking software or hardware.  Rock
> solid; can't beat it.
>
> In fact, if I were sticking with only MIDI (and not so many VSTi's), I'd
> probably chuck everything else and just use that as the brain of my setup.
>
>          -c-
>
> _____
> "i want to reach my hand into the dark and *feel* what reaches back"
>                                                  -recoil
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

I have SX and the Steinberg Midex 8.

Cubase and the MD sync well in each direction.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Catilyne" <catilyne@...>
To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [elektron] Syncing MD, Cubase and other gear


> At 09:09 PM 1/6/2003 +0000, Andy D wrote:
>
> >3) Does anyone have an example system that gives tight sync between
Cubase
> >and the MD?
>
> I've got an old Atari 1040ST running Cubase through a Steinberg SMP24
> SMPTE-sync/MIDI-expander.  That's got as tight a lock as anything I've
ever

> used -- regardless of whether you're talking software or hardware.  Rock
> solid; can't beat it.
>
> In fact, if I were sticking with only MIDI (and not so many VSTi's), I'd
> probably chuck everything else and just use that as the brain of my setup.
>
>          -c-
>
> _____
> "i want to reach my hand into the dark and *feel* what reaches back"
>                                                  -recoil
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>