Elektron Musical Instruments

You can also use the swing-grid function to do the triplet.
(or did you mean a tripple,like a walz or something??)

put them on 3, 7, 11, 15... set the swingpercentage on 80%.

This is a Triol groove...



Kenneth

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: amos luyk 
  To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 9:21 AM
  Subject: Re: [elektron] Triplets


  Not quite what I meant. I don't know anything about musical timing stuff, 
  but if (as I do quite often) you set the length to 12 and put a kick on each 
  third step, it sure sounds like triplet timing to me, just not at the bpm 
  that 'temp' suggests. Some kind of conversion formula should be easy (just 
  not for me).

  thinking happy thoughts
  amos


  >From: "endlessnessisticman" <endlessnessisticman@...>
  >Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
  >To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
  >Subject: Re: [elektron] Triplets
  >Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 05:46:38 -0000
  >
  >Well, if you have the time signature at 12 steps and 16 length you
  >have a 3/4 time and it would be at whatever bpm the MD says.
  >
  >--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "amos luyk" <amosluyk@h...> wrote:
  > > yes, but then it's only triplets... we want both at the same time
  >don't we
  > > =0)
  > > BTW, anyone know a formula for getting a 140bpm rhythm when it's set
  >to 12
  > > steps?
  > >
  > > tht
  > > a
  > >
  > >
  > > >From: not known <spectralab1@y...>
  > > >Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
  > > >To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
  > > >Subject: Re: [elektron] Triplets
  > > >Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 18:46:51 -0400 (EDT)
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >heh, never even thought to try that... weird
  > > >workaround, but it should do the trick...
  > > >
  > > > > You can achieve triplets if you set the pattern
  > > > > length to 12 or 24.
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I must be thick, but I can't figure out how to program triplets on 
the machinedrum. Anyone?

Thanks!

you're not thick, the MD just can't do them.

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> you're not thick, the MD just can't do them.
>

You can achieve triplets if you set the pattern length to 12 or 24.

--- synthblock <block@...> wrote:
> I must be thick, but I can't figure out how to
> program triplets on 
> the machinedrum. Anyone?
> 
I'm thicker than you. What the hell is a triplet?

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heh, never even thought to try that... weird
workaround, but it should do the trick...

> You can achieve triplets if you set the pattern 
> length to 12 or 24.




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hm, on second thought, all that would do is change the
time signiature from 4/4 to 3/4... not quite the same
thing as triplets, though it can "feel" the same in
some situations...

> heh, never even thought to try that... weird
> workaround, but it should do the trick...

> > You can achieve triplets if you set the pattern 
> > length to 12 or 24.




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le 22/05/2003 00:20, Flavio Alvarez à srminimo@... a écrit :

> I'm thicker than you. What the hell is a triplet?

Why when triplets are asked for IE crashes my computer ? ;)

Triplets (Triolets in french) are a group of 3 notes sharing the same
rhythmic signature (duration) but are played instead of their normal time
signature you squeaze the 3 of them in the "space" of two (sorry I don't
have the vocabulary in english of the time signatures)
they are marked with an accolade and the number 3

You can do the same with septets (septolets in french) save you squeaze 7
notes in the space of 6

The version with 5 and 9 notes are quite rare (classical music)

le 22/05/2003 00:49, not known à spectralab1@... a écrit :

> hm, on second thought, all that would do is change the
> time signiature from 4/4 to 3/4... not quite the same
> thing as triplets, though it can "feel" the same in
> some situations...
> 
>> heh, never even thought to try that... weird
>> workaround, but it should do the trick...
> 
>>> You can achieve triplets if you set the pattern
>>> length to 12 or 24.

It's a good work around but not for these reasonsŠ even if then the "normal"
notes don't have the right duration save if you use portamento.

If you take a 3/4 timing, if you need a triolet in the at the 1 position
it's the same as a 12/4 signature played 4 times faster mathematically BUT!

BUT you have to mind as you real time signature is 3/4 you have still the 1
time strong, and the other 2 feable (in 4/4, 16/4 then, 1 and 3 strong, 2
and 4 feable, 3 a bit feabler than 1)

And you have to fake the duration of the notes of normal duration (one time
is 3 step long)

Now let's make 5/7 measures :D

Denis U] (too much classical music education in a single man ;)

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You're not thick =0)

The only way to get 'em (and it's a bit of a fake) is with the delay set to 
trips. Or you could use another sequencer... I do this and record the loops 
into Ableton Live and then trigger them using the Midi Machines =0)

thinking happy thoughts
amos


>From: "synthblock" <block@...>
>Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [elektron] Triplets
>Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 20:12:06 -0000
>
>I must be thick, but I can't figure out how to program triplets on
>the machinedrum. Anyone?
>
>Thanks!
>
>
>
>
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yes, but then it's only triplets... we want both at the same time don't we 
=0)
BTW, anyone know a formula for getting a 140bpm rhythm when it's set to 12 
steps?

tht
a


>From: not known <spectralab1@...>
>Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [elektron] Triplets
>Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 18:46:51 -0400 (EDT)
>
>
>heh, never even thought to try that... weird
>workaround, but it should do the trick...
>
> > You can achieve triplets if you set the pattern
> > length to 12 or 24.
>
>
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Well, if you have the time signature at 12 steps and 16 length you
have a 3/4 time and it would be at whatever bpm the MD says.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "amos luyk" <amosluyk@h...> wrote:
> yes, but then it's only triplets... we want both at the same time
don't we 
> =0)
> BTW, anyone know a formula for getting a 140bpm rhythm when it's set
to 12 
> steps?
> 
> tht
> a
> 
> 
> >From: not known <spectralab1@y...>
> >Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> >To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [elektron] Triplets
> >Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 18:46:51 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> >
> >heh, never even thought to try that... weird
> >workaround, but it should do the trick...
> >
> > > You can achieve triplets if you set the pattern
> > > length to 12 or 24.
> >
> >
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Not quite what I meant. I don't know anything about musical timing stuff, 
but if (as I do quite often) you set the length to 12 and put a kick on each 
third step, it sure sounds like triplet timing to me, just not at the bpm 
that 'temp' suggests. Some kind of conversion formula should be easy (just 
not for me).

thinking happy thoughts
amos


>From: "endlessnessisticman" <endlessnessisticman@...>
>Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [elektron] Triplets
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 05:46:38 -0000
>
>Well, if you have the time signature at 12 steps and 16 length you
>have a 3/4 time and it would be at whatever bpm the MD says.
>
>--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "amos luyk" <amosluyk@h...> wrote:
> > yes, but then it's only triplets... we want both at the same time
>don't we
> > =0)
> > BTW, anyone know a formula for getting a 140bpm rhythm when it's set
>to 12
> > steps?
> >
> > tht
> > a
> >
> >
> > >From: not known <spectralab1@y...>
> > >Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [elektron] Triplets
> > >Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 18:46:51 -0400 (EDT)
> > >
> > >
> > >heh, never even thought to try that... weird
> > >workaround, but it should do the trick...
> > >
> > > > You can achieve triplets if you set the pattern
> > > > length to 12 or 24.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Multiply the tempo by 1.5

Cheers,
Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: amos luyk 
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [elektron] Triplets


Not quite what I meant. I don't know anything about musical timing stuff, 
but if (as I do quite often) you set the length to 12 and put a kick on each 
third step, it sure sounds like triplet timing to me, just not at the bpm 
that 'temp' suggests. Some kind of conversion formula should be easy (just 
not for me).

thinking happy thoughts
amos


>From: "endlessnessisticman" <endlessnessisticman@...>
>Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [elektron] Triplets
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 05:46:38 -0000
>
>Well, if you have the time signature at 12 steps and 16 length you
>have a 3/4 time and it would be at whatever bpm the MD says.
>
>--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "amos luyk" <amosluyk@h...> wrote:
> > yes, but then it's only triplets... we want both at the same time
>don't we
> > =0)
> > BTW, anyone know a formula for getting a 140bpm rhythm when it's set
>to 12
> > steps?
> >
> > tht
> > a
> >
> >
> > >From: not known <spectralab1@y...>
> > >Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [elektron] Triplets
> > >Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 18:46:51 -0400 (EDT)
> > >
> > >
> > >heh, never even thought to try that... weird
> > >workaround, but it should do the trick...
> > >
> > > > You can achieve triplets if you set the pattern
> > > > length to 12 or 24.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Thanks for the responses everyone. I'm simply trying to do hi-hat 
triplets over a straight bass drum beat in 4/4.

regards,
jonathan
http://www.synthblock.com

Thanks Paul =0)

thinking happy thoughts
amos


>From: "Paul Rigby" <paulrigby@...>
>Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [elektron] Triplets
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 12:51:59 +0100
>
>Multiply the tempo by 1.5
>
>Cheers,
>Paul
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: amos luyk
>To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 9:21 AM
>Subject: Re: [elektron] Triplets
>
>
>Not quite what I meant. I don't know anything about musical timing stuff,
>but if (as I do quite often) you set the length to 12 and put a kick on 
>each
>third step, it sure sounds like triplet timing to me, just not at the bpm
>that 'temp' suggests. Some kind of conversion formula should be easy (just
>not for me).
>
>thinking happy thoughts
>amos
>
>
> >From: "endlessnessisticman" <endlessnessisticman@...>
> >Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> >To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [elektron] Triplets
> >Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 05:46:38 -0000
> >
> >Well, if you have the time signature at 12 steps and 16 length you
> >have a 3/4 time and it would be at whatever bpm the MD says.
> >
> >--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "amos luyk" <amosluyk@h...> wrote:
> > > yes, but then it's only triplets... we want both at the same time
> >don't we
> > > =0)
> > > BTW, anyone know a formula for getting a 140bpm rhythm when it's set
> >to 12
> > > steps?
> > >
> > > tht
> > > a
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: not known <spectralab1@y...>
> > > >Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> > > >To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [elektron] Triplets
> > > >Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 18:46:51 -0400 (EDT)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >heh, never even thought to try that... weird
> > > >workaround, but it should do the trick...
> > > >
> > > > > You can achieve triplets if you set the pattern
> > > > > length to 12 or 24.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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le 22/05/2003 19:01, Flavio Alvarez à srminimo@... a écrit :

> Thanks a lot Laser!

(blush)

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I would say send the hh to a separate output and send it to a delay
unit to the timing of your liking.  All wet.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "synthblock" <block@s...> wrote:

> Thanks for the responses everyone. I'm simply trying to do hi-hat 
> triplets over a straight bass drum beat in 4/4.
> 
> regards,
> jonathan
> http://www.synthblock.com