Elektron Musical Instruments

Aren't u using cubase and the restart happens each time you stop it ?

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From: "Col Dee" <coldee@...>
To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 7:27 PM
Subject: [elektron] BROKEN SIDSTATION!


> Does anyone know what the solution is for a SidStation that switches
> on, receives MIDI data for about five seconds and then resets of its
> own accord? It's been doing this for about a week, whenever I try to
> use it.
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--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "M-.-n" <nostromo@a...> wrote:
> Aren't u using cubase and the restart happens each time you stop 
it ?

Actually I've been controlling it with the virtual keyboard in Pro-
53! I was using the hardware Fizmo's keyboard but recently relocated 
to a tiny room where there is no space for a hardware synth. So I've 
been "playing" the SidStation from Pro-53. The SidStation works okay 
for about 5 seconds, or about three MIDI notes played on the Pro-53 
keyboard, and then just cuts out and restarts. I've tried playing 
various patches but the same thing happens.

(I did experiment with editing patches with a Cubase environment, but 
I was having problems linking the SidStation with the computer so I 
abandoned that, and Cubase has never been open for the last 2 weeks. 
This fault began last week.)

On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 05:48:40PM -0000, Col Dee wrote:

> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "M-.-n" <nostromo@a...> wrote:
> > Aren't u using cubase and the restart happens each time you stop 
> it ?
> 
> Actually I've been controlling it with the virtual keyboard in Pro-
> 53! I was using the hardware Fizmo's keyboard but recently relocated 
> to a tiny room where there is no space for a hardware synth. So I've 
> been "playing" the SidStation from Pro-53. The SidStation works okay 
> for about 5 seconds, or about three MIDI notes played on the Pro-53 
> keyboard, and then just cuts out and restarts. I've tried playing 
> various patches but the same thing happens.
> 
> (I did experiment with editing patches with a Cubase environment, but 
> I was having problems linking the SidStation with the computer so I 
> abandoned that, and Cubase has never been open for the last 2 weeks. 
> This fault began last week.)

anything else going on the MIDI bus?  (sync or anything else?)

you could always try a soft-reset.  you will lose your patches, but it
might work fine after that.

-- 
  Aaron J. Grier | "Not your ordinary poofy goof." | agrier@...
  "Isn't an OS that openly and proudly admits to come directly from Holy
   UNIX better than a cheap UNIX copycat that needs to be sued in court
   to determine what the hell it really is?"  --  Michael Sokolov

Dunno about that problem in particular but I did manage to fix some strange
tempermental 'accoustic' behaviour on the SID (most of the patches involving
tables weren't playing correctly). 

My fix involved flashing the SID to the default patch bank with a sysex
utility. Note that you ***MUST*** use the sysex patch and ***NOT*** the midi
version. Using the midi version did absolutely nothing to fix my problem. 

You may have already tried this but I thought it worth mentioning for anyone
experiencing abnormal behvaiour with the SID. Here are the steps...

1) Download/install sendsx 32 from here:
http://www.bome.com/midi/sendsx/

2) Download/unzip default patch bank here:
http://www.sidstation.com/sidsupport.php

3) Run sendsx

4) Configure sendsx with midi out device/channel

5) Load the default patch bank (*.syx) file into sendsx

6) Click send sysex and pray

I'm doing these steps from memory so they may be slightly off.

Good luck and thank god someone is finally talking about something other
than machine drum :-)
Preston

-----Original Message-----
From: Col Dee
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 7/18/03 1:27 PM
Subject: [elektron] BROKEN SIDSTATION!

Does anyone know what the solution is for a SidStation that switches 
on, receives MIDI data for about five seconds and then resets of its 
own accord? It's been doing this for about a week, whenever I try to 
use it.



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> Good luck and thank god someone is finally talking about something 
other than machine drum :-)
> Preston

Well jesus, Preston, if you ever want to talk about the SidStation 
then I could converse on the subject indefinitely. Especially because 
I'm very new to the machine, I only got one (second hand) about six 
weeks ago.

I agree about this place, though. I mean, where have all the 
SidStations gone? This seems to have become the Machinedrum Forum - 
with an adulative nod towards Pharaoh Monomachine with the Third 
Coming.

To be honest I would be interested in Elektron (Peace be upon Them) 
having a proper forum on their website for this kind of thing, split 
into specific sections for their different products.

That last post was mostly a joke, by the way..

The problem with my SidStation gets less confusing, or maybe more so. 
I brought the Fizmo in and used it to trigger the Sid:

Fizmo MIDI OUT > Sid MIDI IN

So the computer isn't involved at all in MIDI activity. This seems to 
have completely eliminated the problem I was having before.

(Incidentally, inspired by something a person said earlier here 
("anything else on the MIDI bus?") I opened Pro-53 and made sure that 
it was only MIDI channels 1 and 2 that were activated. And I made 
sure that the Sid was accepting on channel 1. The problem still 
happened.)

So I can only assume it is something to do with the computer 
soundcard's MIDI. By the way, don't laugh, but it's a Creative Audigy 
2 Platinum. I've been using MIDI OUT Port 2 instead of Port 1, 
because it is more accessible physically. Anyone got any ideas?

Help is greatly appreciated.
Col.

On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 07:10:25PM -0000, Col Dee wrote:

> (Incidentally, inspired by something a person said earlier here
> ("anything else on the MIDI bus?") I opened Pro-53 and made sure that
> it was only MIDI channels 1 and 2 that were activated. And I made sure
> that the Sid was accepting on channel 1. The problem still happened.)

I asked because early revisions of the sidstation software had problems
with MIDI sync signals.

-- 
  Aaron J. Grier | "Not your ordinary poofy goof." | agrier@...
  "Isn't an OS that openly and proudly admits to come directly from Holy
   UNIX better than a cheap UNIX copycat that needs to be sued in court
   to determine what the hell it really is?"  --  Michael Sokolov