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2000-06-20 by Joeri Vankeirsbilck
Why would they model it if they can offer the real thing? I think they'll be more creative than that! Marc Horchler wrote: > Maybe they'll make a SID Modeling synth? But then, it wouldn't be the > same > anymore, would it? > -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@... Belway Productions - http://www.belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2000-06-20 by Marc Horchler
Maybe they'll make a SID Modeling synth? But then, it wouldn't be the same anymore, would it? ----------
>De : Joeri Vankeirsbilck <joeri@belway.com> >À : elektron-users@egroups.com >Objet : Re: [elektron] RE: should i or shouldn't i.... >Date : Lund 19 juin 2000 15:17 > > Hi, > >> is the microwave 2 as good as the 1st(is it worth the search?) > > It's "different". It's all digital whereas the I had more analog stuff > in it (especially the filters). So, it definitely doesn't have the same > amount of punch. On the other hand, the Microwave 2 can create more > different types of sounds and is better for strings and pads. If you can > afford both, get both as they complement eachother in many ways. > >> how does the xt compare...not looking for an analogue replacement but >> something unique... > > XT is "almost" the same as the Microwave 2, but with more knobs, analog > STEREO input (although I'm not sure whether it's summed to mono > internally) and more DSP RAM (some earlier revisions of Microwave 2 had > less DSP ram: can be upgraded when taking it in for the 30-voice > update). The XT is also unique and complements virtual analog synths > well. > >> but hey...sids getting a little restless in the backround..placing an >> order >> for the sid tommorrow.... > > Good choice! Just received a newsletter and their amount of chips is > getting low (200 chips left) so it's the right time to get one if you > haven't got it yet! This babe will be a classic for a very select group > of users!!! > > Bye, > Joeri > -- > Joeri Vankeirsbilck > joeri@... > > Belway Productions - http://www.belway.com > List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Never lose a file again. Protect yourself from accidental deletes, > overwrites, and viruses with @Backup. > Try @Backup it's easy, it's safe, and it's FREE! > Click here to receive 300 MyPoints just for trying @Backup. > http://click.egroups.com/1/5669/10/_/598228/_/961427962/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >
2000-06-22 by Matt Russell
On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Marc Horchler wrote:
> Well then maybe they will just have to copy the SID chip somehow. I'm sure
> that would up the price somewhat though....
A SID modeling chip certainly is a novel concept... but I don't think
there is nearly enough market. I mean... how many SidStations exist?
According to the old website, less than a grand. So, let's just say it's
a thousand. A thousand units sold in a year shows that the demand isn't
really that high.
Plus, remaking synths isn't really where the money is right now. Look at
the FutureRetro FR-777 and the Novation DrumStation. Two units that
totally kill the original unit (TB-303 and TR-808/TR-909 respectively) and
even though they sell for much less than the original unit, the demand
isn't anywhere near the demand of the classic.
I wouldn't be surprised if somebody makes a software emulator though.
There is a great Juno 6 emulator out for Linux now...
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On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 05:26:36PM -0700, Matt Russell wrote: > I wouldn't be surprised if somebody makes a software emulator though. > There is a great Juno 6 emulator out for Linux now... sidplay and resid are software emulations. port 'em to an embedded DSP, connect up some MIDI, and there ya go. virtual sidstation? ;P -- Aaron J. Grier | "Not your ordinary poofy goof." | agrier@...
2000-06-22 by Marc Horchler
Well then maybe they will just have to copy the SID chip somehow. I'm sure that would up the price somewhat though.... ----------
>De : Joeri Vankeirsbilck <joeri@...> >À : elektron-users@egroups.com >Objet : Re: Re : [elektron] RE: should i or shouldn't i.... >Date : Mard 20 juin 2000 20:00 > > Why would they model it if they can offer the real thing? I think > they'll be more creative than that! > > Marc Horchler wrote: > >> Maybe they'll make a SID Modeling synth? But then, it wouldn't be the >> same >> anymore, would it? >> > > -- > Joeri Vankeirsbilck > joeri@belway.com > > Belway Productions - http://www.belway.com > List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > TRAVEL FOR PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR! Get dozens of the best travel agents > competing for your business with our new FREE service. > http://click.egroups.com/1/5745/10/_/598228/_/961531398/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >
2000-06-22 by Daniel Hansson
On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Aaron J. Grier wrote: > sidplay and resid are software emulations. port 'em to an embedded DSP, > connect up some MIDI, and there ya go. virtual sidstation? ;P And who would be happier for that? Also, remember that 90% of the development time for the SidStation has been the OS. The SID-chip is really basic. Many people think that LFO's, tables etc are native functions of the SID-chips. They're not. If you're supposed to get anything interesting out of a simple chip as the SID there is a lot of thinking and work to get it right. The eound emulation of SidPlay and Resid aren't that special. The filter is a very simple one that is nothing like the actual SID-filter. //Daniel
2000-06-22 by Magnus Ahlden
So, what is the next thing comming from elektron? I'm really getting curious. cheers, mga
> -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Hansson [mailto:daniel@...] > Sent: 22 June 2000 11:04 > To: elektron-users@egroups.com > Subject: Re: [elektron] Re: should i or shouldn't i.... > > > On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Aaron J. Grier wrote: > > > sidplay and resid are software emulations. port 'em to an embedded DSP, > > connect up some MIDI, and there ya go. virtual sidstation? ;P > > And who would be happier for that? Also, remember that 90% of the > development time for the SidStation has been the OS. The SID-chip is > really basic. Many people think that LFO's, tables etc are native > functions of the SID-chips. They're not. If you're supposed to get > anything interesting out of a simple chip as the SID there is a lot of > thinking and work to get it right. > > The eound emulation of SidPlay and Resid aren't that special. The filter > is a very simple one that is nothing like the actual SID-filter. > > //Daniel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > SALESFORCE.COM MAKES SOFTWARE OBSOLETE > Secure, online sales force automation with 5 users FREE for 1 year! > http://click.egroups.com/1/2658/13/_/598228/_/961664655/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >
2000-06-26 by Aaron J. Grier
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 11:04:01AM +0200, Daniel Hansson wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Aaron J. Grier wrote: > > > sidplay and resid are software emulations. port 'em to an embedded DSP, > > connect up some MIDI, and there ya go. virtual sidstation? ;P > > And who would be happier for that? the same people who buy nord modulars, rebirth, protools, etc... who would like everything "computer controlled," I would imagine. > Also, remember that 90% of the development time for the SidStation has > been the OS. The SID-chip is really basic. Many people think that > LFO's, tables etc are native functions of the SID-chips. They're not. > If you're supposed to get anything interesting out of a simple chip as > the SID there is a lot of thinking and work to get it right. so elektron could turn around and make a virtual sidstation (after all sid chips are sold) by porting the OS to run under, say, windows, right? (just kidding.) > The eound emulation of SidPlay and Resid aren't that special. the trickiest parts are in the 6502 emulation and timing... > The filter is a very simple one that is nothing like the actual > SID-filter. very true. the real SID chip has a very peculiar "shredding" to its filter(s) which does not sound like anything else. -- Aaron J. Grier | "Not your ordinary poofy goof." | agrier@...