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2004-03-12 by ofthicktum

Thanks for your input j.ordan.

As with all my posts they seem to be made late at night after the pub, as this one will 
testify.
The track in question is pretty raw in every sense of the word. But it was the first thing I 
made with the MnM that I felt had something. I shall try to develop it MUCH further and 
post the results. Mmm levels that is something I need to think about.

After just spending this evening at Herbal in London listening to my good friend Jim rinse 
the GRIME i will make 3 possibly (un)interesting / relevant points to the group that will be 
somehow related.

Andy Weatherall DJed and played an amazing set of obscure, funky new messed up house/ 
new wave/electo techno  and finished with Primal Screams Don't Fight It, Feel It and then 
his own remix of MBVs Glider. The crowd went nuts. 

An electro act called Scape One played a blinding set of electro techno using just the Korg 
ESX1 and it sounded warm, dirty and freshHHH. 

My point is.. I love the sound of my MD and my MnM but samples are such an integral part 
of the music making process that it should be a priority for Elektron to design a truly 
intuitive hardware sampler/sequencer............

Re: Grime

2004-03-12 by endlessnessisticman

> My point is.. I love the sound of my MD and my MnM but samples are 
such an integral part 
> of the music making process that it should be a priority for 
Elektron to design a truly 
> intuitive hardware sampler/sequencer............

I have to agree here.  I have an ms2000 and a Virus along with my 
coveted MD.  What I need now is a decent sampler.  As people have 
pointed out before there needs to be a sampler with some good sound 
modulation and the only way to do this now is through software.  
That's good enough for me.  If Elektron came out with a sampler that 
could compete with the soft samplers they'd truly have something 
special, not to say from what I hear about the MnM isn't.  I already 
have the synths I need.  I regret selling my mpc a couple years ago.  
There is alot you can do with current samplers that I've yet to 
explore.  It takes alot of time.

Re: Grime

2004-03-13 by Steven Henry

>My point is.. I love the sound of my MD and my MnM but samples are such an
integral part
>of the music making process that it should be a priority for Elektron to
design a truly
>intuitive hardware sampler/sequencer............

Yes!, I'm not a Monomachine or Machinedrum user & I suppose the elektron of
today is completly different from the one that built my Sidstation many
years ago. I was impressed with the machinedrum though, and a performance
sampler in the new style would be very welcome in my setup. Elektron will
have to do thier research to find a gap in the market of the size they have
filled with thier previous 3 products...On the subject of Andrew Weatherall
though via. Two Lone Swordsmen, Keith Tenniswood is a big fan of that green
Korg one.. ES-1? ;-) oooh, that delay knob!! hahaha.

Look at it this way though, Elektron are very DSP based these days I would
love to see them put those skills into some small (<\ufffd150) effect boxes. I
recently bought a couple of those Alesis ones, as I can't remember thier
names, you can tell that I don't use them much. the quality is awful, both
have a constant humm.

/Steven

Re: Grime

2004-03-13 by privat_joy

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "endlessnessisticman"
<endlessnessisticman@y...> wrote:
> > My point is.. I love the sound of my MD and my MnM but samples are 
> such an integral part 
> > of the music making process that it should be a priority for 
> Elektron to design a truly 
> > intuitive hardware sampler/sequencer............
> 
> I have to agree here.  I have an ms2000 and a Virus along with my 
> coveted MD.  What I need now is a decent sampler.  As people have 
> pointed out before there needs to be a sampler with some good sound 
> modulation and the only way to do this now is through software.  
> That's good enough for me.  If Elektron came out with a sampler that 
> could compete with the soft samplers they'd truly have something 
> special, not to say from what I hear about the MnM isn't.  I already 
> have the synths I need.  I regret selling my mpc a couple years ago.  
> There is alot you can do with current samplers that I've yet to 
> explore.  It takes alot of time.

I am not sure! I think that a developing a hardwaresampler could be a
high risc for elektron. There is allready realy usefull stuff on the
market, look at the things Korg done (?EMX?), i know a lot of users
which very happy with this sampler/sequencer. I also owning a
MPC2000XL, but don't use very often at the moment. Fact is, we all
owning Computers and got softwaresampler, which work very well. Since
there are Samplers like Giga, Halion, Kontakt..., there is not a big
market for hardwaresamplers. I see a market for hardwaresequencers!
Let's have look at Spectralis (raditec), this is a combined
analogstyle sequencer with one analog synth and filter,virtualanalog
engine and the possibilty for samples. Look at least to me like
something you want!
And this is the problem here, there is allready a lot of stuff on the
market. I bought a P3 from Collin Fraser some weeks ago, this a realy
a HAMMER_POWER_Sequencer, so where is the problem send midi to the
software-sampler?
Maybe for live usage a computer on stage is not the savest way, for
this case i still have my A3000.
At least i bought the Sid, MD and MnM because they are not using
samples ;-) I am a synth-freak....
Stefan

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