Elektron Musical Instruments

Hi there!

Quite often when I start a new kit, I start by copying and pasting 
machines from several other kits, and I was wondering whether anyone's 
heard of a simple drag&drop GUI for copying/moving machines between 
kits? I think it would be quite handy...

Cheers,

	Kim

I wrote:

> Hi there!

I just realized this was my first posting to this list, so an 
introduction is in order. My name is Kim Johnsson, I live in Finland, 
I'm a mere 36 years old and making music is my favorite non-physical 
hobby, and I am very enthusiastic about it. I started more or less from 
scratch at the late age of 25. I really don't play any instrument 
particularly well; I can manage on keyboards and I strum a little 
guitar, and I can barely keep a beat on my e-drumset. I would definitely 
not want to perform anything live in front of an audience. Over the 
years, I've accumulated a collection of gear which I really like. I'm a 
hardware guy by nature, but it's not a religion thing, as I've also 
recently bought the impOSCar VSTi, which I think sounds excellent. I 
listen to music along the lines of Depeche Mode, John Foxx, Peter 
Gabriel, Vangelis, Jarre, Ultravox, Kraftwerk (just saw them live!), 
Autechre, Rammstein and Ella Fitzgerald, to name a few. I suppose my 
music is a combination of all of these, with the exception that it's not 
particularly good :-) I am frighteningly unproductive, but as this is 
just a hobby, I don't really mind. I bought a Machinedrum last summer, 
and I've been enjoying it a lot. It's effectively taken over drum duties 
from all other machines, except for the samples. At the time I bought 
it, I thought it was somewhat pricey, but it's definitely proved to be 
worth the money.

That's it, really.

As you were,

	Kim

I have thought about a similar utility. If you wanted it to catalog machine 
settings from dumped kits, it would require reverse-engineering elektron's 
sysex dump format. It would certainly be useful, but a free one for public 
use does not currently exist, for MD or MM. 
-Andrew Denyes


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From: Kim Johnsson Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 12:06:40 +0200
>Quite often when I start a new kit, I start by copying and pasting 
machines from several other kits, and I was wondering whether anyone's 
heard of a simple drag&drop GUI for copying/moving machines between 
kits? I think it would be quite handy...
<

Andr00 wrote:

> I have thought about a similar utility. If you wanted it to catalog machine 
> settings from dumped kits, it would require reverse-engineering elektron's 
> sysex dump format. 

Yep. Alternatively, if the MD could be sent "key press" info a la 
Macros, that would do it as well.

 > It would certainly be useful, but a free one for public
> use does not currently exist, for MD or MM. 

OK.

Thanks for the info,

	Kim

On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 01:33:14PM +0200, Kim Johnsson wrote:
>    I just realized this was my first posting to this list, so an
>    introduction is in order.

Hi Kim!  Thanks for the introduction and welcome to the list! :-)

Joe

Hi ,

As promised , here is an excerpt from sos magazine's paul nagle on the 
monomachine . This is the conclusion to the review .

( I have heard a rumour that future music magazine have given the 
monomachine a platinum award ! )

marc

www.psience.co.uk

												CONCLUSION


In preparation for the Monomachine's arrival, I had downloaded its 
manual from the www.monomachine.com web site, as well as listening to 
all of the excellent on-line demos. When I hit Play, I was therefore 
slightly taken aback by the rather cheesy looping tune � not an ideal 
introduction. However, I soon discovered that interaction was the key 
to hearing the Patterns at their best � especially when I learned to 
exploit the elaborately programmed joystick assignments. Using this 
simple performance tool, many of the Patterns sprang into life; the 
highlights being Kraftwerk-style romps, various Euro-beat excursions 
and a Yazoo impersonation that was rather too close for comfort � I 
wonder if Vince Clarke has heard it?

  As many of the included Patterns reminded me of '80s electro-pop, I 
endeavoured to create more drastic examples of electronica. Often I 
turned to the Digipro machine; I found that stepping its waveforms 
whilst modulating their phase produced some of the most harmonically 
rich sounds I've encountered in a long time. And dirty, industrial 
noises positively flowed once I drafted in the sample-rate reduction 
and a dose of reverb. Another favourite, the SID emulation proved to be 
full of presence, its oscillator sync so razor sharp that I often used 
it on multiple Tracks to produce layered, screaming mayhem. SID was 
equally capable in the throbbing bass department � that simple 
equaliser on each track being just enough to add all the depth I 
needed. Many of the machines seem happiest squirting out dirt, setting 
the Monomachine apart from most smooth, polished contemporaries. But 
analogue fuzziness was also represented; I dutifully managed to coax 
some ripping TB303-style Patterns from a plain sawtooth wave by use of 
Parameter Locks to introduce portamento, distortion and filter 
squelches. I admit I never fully mastered the Voice Modelling machine, 
but obtained results I enjoyed all the same.

It's when you really push the boundaries that the most unusual and 
rewarding sounds begin to tear loose. Just how far it can be pushed by 
keen enthusiasts, I can't predict, but the Monomachine is definitely 
not recommended if you only require instantly familiar, conventional 
patches and grooves.

I found the sequencer enjoyable to use: effective and powerful in some 
areas, but slightly simplistic in others. With no means to record 
unquantised events, the Monomachine has a 'drum box' mentality: it is 
not designed to capture expressive solo performances. Even basslines 
and percussion require attention if they are not to feel robotic � but 
if that's what you're after, this won't be a problem. No reference to 
the sequencer is complete without yet another mention of Parameter 
Locks. These are the jewel in its crown and come into play time and 
again to breathe life into the SFX6's otherwise metronomic patterns.

The Monomachine is a difficult instrument to sum up neatly, perhaps 
because it refuses to conform to any expectation based on products from 
other companies; Elektron have taken an unconventional approach to 
almost every aspect of sound creation and sequencing. Ultimately, much 
depends on whether their choices of sequencer functionality and 
synthesis appeal to you. At the rather high asking price, many will be 
tempted to investigate other sequencer and sound module combinations, 
maybe seeking a more standard palette or greater polyphony. But then 
again, I welcome instruments that deviate from the norm, and the 
Monomachine certainly fits the bill in this respect. As a 
self-contained loop generator that encourages creative interaction, its 
unique attitude might be just the ticket to set you off in new 
directions.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I love the robotic sounds from it ! :) thanks for
sharing the info with us! :) 


--- marc davidson <psi@...> wrote:
> Hi ,
> 
> As promised , here is an excerpt from sos magazine's
> paul nagle on the 
> monomachine . This is the conclusion to the review .
> 
> ( I have heard a rumour that future music magazine
> have given the 
> monomachine a platinum award ! )
> 
> marc
> 
> www.psience.co.uk
> 
> 												CONCLUSION
> 
> 
> In preparation for the Monomachine's arrival, I had
> downloaded its 
> manual from the www.monomachine.com web site, as
> well as listening to 
> all of the excellent on-line demos. When I hit Play,
> I was therefore 
> slightly taken aback by the rather cheesy looping
> tune \ufffd not an ideal 
> introduction. However, I soon discovered that
> interaction was the key 
> to hearing the Patterns at their best \ufffd especially
> when I learned to 
> exploit the elaborately programmed joystick
> assignments. Using this 
> simple performance tool, many of the Patterns sprang
> into life; the 
> highlights being Kraftwerk-style romps, various
> Euro-beat excursions 
> and a Yazoo impersonation that was rather too close
> for comfort \ufffd I 
> wonder if Vince Clarke has heard it?
> 
>   As many of the included Patterns reminded me of
> '80s electro-pop, I 
> endeavoured to create more drastic examples of
> electronica. Often I 
> turned to the Digipro machine; I found that stepping
> its waveforms 
> whilst modulating their phase produced some of the
> most harmonically 
> rich sounds I've encountered in a long time. And
> dirty, industrial 
> noises positively flowed once I drafted in the
> sample-rate reduction 
> and a dose of reverb. Another favourite, the SID
> emulation proved to be 
> full of presence, its oscillator sync so razor sharp
> that I often used 
> it on multiple Tracks to produce layered, screaming
> mayhem. SID was 
> equally capable in the throbbing bass department \ufffd
> that simple 
> equaliser on each track being just enough to add all
> the depth I 
> needed. Many of the machines seem happiest squirting
> out dirt, setting 
> the Monomachine apart from most smooth, polished
> contemporaries. But 
> analogue fuzziness was also represented; I dutifully
> managed to coax 
> some ripping TB303-style Patterns from a plain
> sawtooth wave by use of 
> Parameter Locks to introduce portamento, distortion
> and filter 
> squelches. I admit I never fully mastered the Voice
> Modelling machine, 
> but obtained results I enjoyed all the same.
> 
> It's when you really push the boundaries that the
> most unusual and 
> rewarding sounds begin to tear loose. Just how far
> it can be pushed by 
> keen enthusiasts, I can't predict, but the
> Monomachine is definitely 
> not recommended if you only require instantly
> familiar, conventional 
> patches and grooves.
> 
> I found the sequencer enjoyable to use: effective
> and powerful in some 
> areas, but slightly simplistic in others. With no
> means to record 
> unquantised events, the Monomachine has a 'drum box'
> mentality: it is 
> not designed to capture expressive solo
> performances. Even basslines 
> and percussion require attention if they are not to
> feel robotic \ufffd but 
> if that's what you're after, this won't be a
> problem. No reference to 
> the sequencer is complete without yet another
> mention of Parameter 
> Locks. These are the jewel in its crown and come
> into play time and 
> again to breathe life into the SFX6's otherwise
> metronomic patterns.
> 
> The Monomachine is a difficult instrument to sum up
> neatly, perhaps 
> because it refuses to conform to any expectation
> based on products from 
> other companies; Elektron have taken an
> unconventional approach to 
> almost every aspect of sound creation and
> sequencing. Ultimately, much 
> depends on whether their choices of sequencer
> functionality and 
> synthesis appeal to you. At the rather high asking
> price, many will be 
> tempted to investigate other sequencer and sound
> module combinations, 
> maybe seeking a more standard palette or greater
> polyphony. But then 
> again, I welcome instruments that deviate from the
> norm, and the 
> Monomachine certainly fits the bill in this respect.
> As a 
> self-contained loop generator that encourages
> creative interaction, its 
> unique attitude might be just the ticket to set you
> off in new 
> directions.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> 
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--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, marc davidson <psi@p...> wrote:

> ( I have heard a rumour that future music magazine have given the 
> monomachine a platinum award ! )
> 
Yeah, but I wonder if they have actually played with a monomachine - 
they often plagiarize directly from Sound on Sound ;)

-gerald

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I was all excited but the link didn't work.  Maybe later.


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it's working now :D


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Ehm ....
The sound comming in at 1:24 sounds a bit false...
Music sounds a bit like synth pop from the 70's 
Not bad if this was the 1st track u ever did with ur new stuff :)

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> it's working now :D
> 
> 
> --- endlessnessisticman
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it's my first intro to some of my new tracks.


--- binaryzero1 <binaryzero1@...> wrote:
> Ehm ....
> The sound comming in at 1:24 sounds a bit false...
> Music sounds a bit like synth pop from the 70's 
> Not bad if this was the 1st track u ever did with ur
> new stuff :)
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Automatic
> Panic 
> <thesoundzoneinfo@y...> wrote:
> > it's working now :D
> > 
> > 
> > --- endlessnessisticman
> > <endlessnessisticman@y...> wrote:
> > > I was all excited but the link didn't work. 
> Maybe
> > > later.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Automatic
> > > Panic
> > > <thesoundzoneinfo@y...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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