Elektron Musical Instruments

Hiya guys and gals,

I have just bought a Machinedrum and have been playing with it for a 
couple of weeks now.

Last night was the first time I hooked it up to my DAW and started to 
check out the MIDI timing.

I have noticed that the timing is not particularly good at all.  I 
recorded a 4.4 Kick drum into Cubase SL2.0 and found that each kick 
was before the beat or after the beat by anything up to about 70 
samples.  I find this to be quite bad.  Has anyone else found this to 
be the case?

It is not as if I am using pooor MIDI equipment.

I have an RME HDSP9632 and some very good quality gold plated MIDI 
cables.  I don't experience such problems with other insturments.

Does anyone know if anything is being done about this?  Is there a 
work around that I am unaware of?

Thanks for any help you can sling my way.

Martyn

Hi,
are those kicks coming from the internal sequencer of the MD or did you record the 
miditriggers in Cubase?

best
Hans

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "drammy2004" <martyn@r...> wrote:

> Hiya guys and gals,
> 
> I have just bought a Machinedrum and have been playing with it for a 
> couple of weeks now.
> 
> Last night was the first time I hooked it up to my DAW and started to 
> check out the MIDI timing.
> 
> I have noticed that the timing is not particularly good at all.  I 
> recorded a 4.4 Kick drum into Cubase SL2.0 and found that each kick 
> was before the beat or after the beat by anything up to about 70 
> samples.  I find this to be quite bad.  Has anyone else found this to 
> be the case?
> 
> It is not as if I am using pooor MIDI equipment.
> 
> I have an RME HDSP9632 and some very good quality gold plated MIDI 
> cables.  I don't experience such problems with other insturments.
> 
> Does anyone know if anything is being done about this?  Is there a 
> work around that I am unaware of?
> 
> Thanks for any help you can sling my way.
> 
> Martyn

On Aug 21, 2004, at 8:18 AM, schmackofanz wrote:

> Hi,
>  are those kicks coming from the internal sequencer of the MD or did 
> you record the
>  miditriggers in Cubase?

good question.  and if they were sequenced, who was the master?  MD 
likes
to be the master, typically. it's a bit more stable that way.


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Both - I have recorded both the MD sequencer and MIDI triggers from 
Cubase.  Both are out.

Any suggestions?

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "schmackofanz" 
<digitalaudiodesign@t...> wrote:
> Hi,
> are those kicks coming from the internal sequencer of the MD or did 
you record the 
> miditriggers in Cubase?
> 
> best
> Hans
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "drammy2004" <martyn@r...> 
wrote:
> > Hiya guys and gals,
> > 
> > I have just bought a Machinedrum and have been playing with it 
for a 
> > couple of weeks now.
> > 
> > Last night was the first time I hooked it up to my DAW and 
started to 
> > check out the MIDI timing.
> > 
> > I have noticed that the timing is not particularly good at all.  
I 
> > recorded a 4.4 Kick drum into Cubase SL2.0 and found that each 
kick 
> > was before the beat or after the beat by anything up to about 70 
> > samples.  I find this to be quite bad.  Has anyone else found 
this to 
> > be the case?
> > 
> > It is not as if I am using pooor MIDI equipment.
> > 
> > I have an RME HDSP9632 and some very good quality gold plated 
MIDI 
> > cables.  I don't experience such problems with other insturments.
> > 
> > Does anyone know if anything is being done about this?  Is there 
a 

> > work around that I am unaware of?
> > 
> > Thanks for any help you can sling my way.
> > 
> > Martyn

I use the RME as the master - It has the best MIDI clock of anything 
I have ever seen.


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Melnyk <jmelnyk@c...> 
wrote:
> On Aug 21, 2004, at 8:18 AM, schmackofanz wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >  are those kicks coming from the internal sequencer of the MD or 
did 

> > you record the
> >  miditriggers in Cubase?
> 
> good question.  and if they were sequenced, who was the master?  MD 
> likes
> to be the master, typically. it's a bit more stable that way.
> 
> 
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On Aug 21, 2004, at 4:06 PM, drammy2004 wrote:

> Both - I have recorded both the MD sequencer and MIDI triggers from
>  Cubase.  Both are out.
>
>  Any suggestions?

try MD as master.


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OK so to do this I guess I set the Tempo In as Internal, the Ctrl In 
to Off, the Tempo Out to On and the Ctrl Out to On,

Or do I still need the Ctrl In to be On?


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Melnyk <jmelnyk@c...> 
wrote:
> On Aug 21, 2004, at 4:06 PM, drammy2004 wrote:
> 
> > Both - I have recorded both the MD sequencer and MIDI triggers 
from

> >  Cubase.  Both are out.
> >
> >  Any suggestions?
> 
> try MD as master.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On Aug 21, 2004, at 6:56 PM, drammy2004 wrote:

>  Or do I still need the Ctrl In to be On?

it should be on if you plan to control MD parameters via Cubase. in 
other
words if you plan on doing something like:
MD--(just clock/prgm change)-->Cubase--(parameter data)-->MD

but make sure you set the prgm change to "out" (or maybe it's "on") so 
that
it will send Cubase start/stop/continue commands.

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