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Re: [emax] RE: Resurrecting an Emax HD rack - Issues keep mounting

2014-02-06 by jammie

they you go again to bad you cant partition a drive

emaxes back then a 20mb drive back in 1996 was £800 and why fixed drive sizes was used akai had a fixed drive size of 600mb right up until the middle 2000,s

because the cdrom standard was that size same for rolands

the bigger hd sizes did not come out until many years later 

ensoniq had the bigest for years as standard a 2gb drive then through software tricks 8gb

but most wre fixed to 2gb the kurzweil did partitions but many years later

back in 1986 a 20mb drive was huge for a sampler as the emu range was the only types to have them it was not until the advent of sysquest removable media in the late 80,s that removable disks was introduced and the carts used to cost £200 each

the problem with zip drives is there to big so if fitting one you have to file the sides to insert and remove the zip disk 

but you cant expect the 30 years old tech to have new features

if the os code was released then yes these things can be addressed if theres room on the rom usb could be incoporated easily but disaembling code takes a long time 

where as having the code as a written text as they used to back then would make life easy

but the addage is fit a cf card drive and use 32mb cards as i do its quick and easy and not noisey like a zip drive which is also very old tech failing 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: windrumscoggin@... 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 8:03 AM
  Subject: Re: [emax] RE: Resurrecting an Emax HD rack - Issues keep mounting


    

  Right 
  I was just suggesting he install an internal SCSI Zip with ID set to 0 then when the bad FDD won't load the Emax can load the OS off the internal SCSI Zip
  He can make the EMAX OS ZIP disk using EMXP and an internal IDE ZIP drive in his XP PC.
  I've done it works fine
  If you can't find a PCD 50 B then buy one of these more them 10 available now will work fine in A SCSI capable Emax
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Winstation-5-25in-SCSI-50pin-250MB-Zip-Drive-WFS7E5W13-/390764585487?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5afb62620f


  PS- only problem is you waste a lot of space using a 100 or 250 MB Zip disk when Emax can only read a 20 MB partition. Too bad there isn't a way to partition the Zip disks 5 times and tell the Emax which partition to read...that would be very nice!

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  On Feb 5, 2014, at 11:31 PM, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:


      

    the problem with external zip drives is they are scsi 5/6

    even if you load the + os on them they wont boot as every time the emax is switched of 

    it wipes the memory were the os is stored and does not keep a record of the external scsi id 

    so you need a working floppy drive the reason for the scsi plus os is if you had more than one scsi device in the chain ie 2 you can the choose to change the id for a different device to load banks into the emax it was a quick way of getting banks on the internal hd

    instead of using a floppy disk
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Windrum Scoggin 
      To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
      Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 5:42 AM
      Subject: Re: [emax] RE: Resurrecting an Emax HD rack - Issues keep mounting


        

      You gotta look and look hard for PCD's.....everyonce in a while, they come up for sale on eBay..getting rather hard to find IMHO....

      You can look for an internal SCSI zip drive on Ebay and format to it using EMXP and another ZIP drive connected to your XP PC. So far I have written to ZIP drives on my XP  using EMXP then loaded the disk via exteral SCSI Zip on my Emax just fine...BUT....

      the option of using an external SCSI Zip drive means you will have to update to the Plus OS and the catch-22  to this is if you don't have a working floppy you can't update to the Plus OS on your Emax.  Thefore, you will have to have someone make you a plus OS disk or use EMXP and make one yoruself, providing your floppy works on your Emax. Mine didn't so that put me into a dilemma but I was lucky enought to find a PCD and that saved me from having to find a new FDD or retrofit a slim floppy  then load it into your Emax to update it. Once the Emax is updated the  Plus OS then the Emax can 'see' external SCSI drives and you can load up off your external SCSI ZIP.  
       If your EMAX doesn't have an external  SCSI connector, you can install one yourself if you have the time and wherewithall to do it and your internal Emax Main Board is a PC 333  board . Its REAL easy to install an external DB-25 SCSI conector on a PC 333 board....if not and you have Rev 2  boards its more difficult for sure (cuts and jumps you have to have some skillz with a soldering iron and a good eye) and its simply not possible with a Rev 1 board. 
      Hope this info helps. You can find internal SCSI ZIPS all over on eBay



      On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 8:59 PM, p. hendricks <ph@...> wrote:

          

        On 2/5/14 12:23 PM, jammie wrote:



          pcd-60b is your best bet
        so, where's the best place to currently buy one in the US?

        thanks!!!







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