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Re: [emax] Need some help figuring out the Emax

2014-03-15 by Niklas Ehrlin

Ok, I see. But what I really ment is that nowadays, an Emax in the
surrondings of 24 bit 192 kHz digital sound enviroments - the "optimal"
setting for sampling in these machines are found by using your ears.
Finding what settings you think sounds good. If the case is to find the
optimal level for the sake of getting the most information sampled from the
original sound, then a 25 year old 12bit solution is not the best option in
2014. But this is of cuorse my personal opinion and I guess it's always fun
to explore the possibilities and limitations.
Niklas


2014-03-15 7:55 GMT+01:00 Carl Lofgren <carl_lofgren@...>:

> Recording too hot? Oh... I planned doing that. And with different rates as
> well. It's just that I would like to set up the optimal settings first. But
> no matter - I tried again a few hours using expensive shielded cables and
> practically measuring all outputs. The noise of the sampler when nothing is
> playing is highest on the right output, noticeably lower on the left and
> quite low on the individual outputs. When when sampling the noise/artifacts
> is pretty much the same give or take one or two dbs.
>
> /C
>
>   Carl Lofgren <carl_lofgren@...>
>  March 14, 2014 9:20 PM
>
>
> I am not that used to its operation. And after three days trying to
> understand how it works, I'm a little wiser but far from all-seeing.
> It's really a quirky little machine with lots of oddness going on.
>
> >From my part, this is obviously partly a case of RTFM - but I honestly
> cannot stand the manual. Craig Anderton might be a legend, but I
> honestly cannot get my head around it.
>
> 1) Individual outputs vs mix outputs. The individual outputs are way
> less noisy. My Babyface registers about 10 decibels less noise - which
> might/might not be the entire ruth since the levels are different
> between the individual and mix outputs. I've been listening to my ears
> almost start to bleed, but I cannot hear any difference in sound quality
> (noise level yes) between let's say output 8 and the mix. How about you
> guys? What's your experience?
>
> 2) Replacing samples. Can it be done? Let's say I've got a 18s sample
> (max memory) and I would like to do another one. Master + 4 erase memory
> would be one way, but that nukes some of my settings, such as selection
> of output connector. Is there any way to sample another 18s and still
> keeping the settings? When erasing the machine, maybe I shouldn't say
> yes when the Emax asks to make a new default setting? (just occurred to
> me).
>
> 3) Getting the samples on the right keys. I know I am going to sound
> like I am stupid, but the root position of the samples I make are not
> constant. Sometimes they land on G1 - sometimes on B1(!). Can someone
> please please just write down step by step how you do it to sample
> something on C1.
>
> 4) Setting the levels. Oh man what I've been banging my head on this
> one. I send a sinewave (normalized to -0.05 db) to calibrate the input
> level. I set the sampling level in the Emax to 0 and I always have to
> back off on my sound card before sampling. I never go all the way to the
> right, but I settle one or two pixels from the left/max. This causes the
> Emax to distort - very slightly. I could clearly hear it and even see a
> small part of the falling top slope of the sine wave being straight. The
> solution was to back off a tiny bit more - and the distortion
> disappeared. How do you guys set the levels? I assume setting the Emax
> input level to 0 is the optimal (it even says so in the manual). But I
> haven't had the time to experiment with it.
>
> 5) Ok. Now it's really RTFM time. Primary / Secondary samples - how are
> you supposed to work with that? To me it sounds like you can sample one
> sample that says AAAA and another sample that says OOOOO and have them
> playing together like a normal two oscillator synth. Can you detune
> them? Set the levels? Different envelopes?
>
> /C
>
>


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