Thanks for the detailed information. But the Emax-I is quite different from the Emax-II in the field of SCSI behaviour. The Emax OS also doesn't have a "set SCSI ID" option like the Emax-II does. And... as far as I know there's no battery in an Emax :-) ///E-Synthesist --- In emax@...m, "thenewyorkcowboy" <thenewyorkcowboy@...> wrote: > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Ted Summers" <djtbs1@> wrote: > > > > Esynthesist- > > > > After all you have done to help this group as you have, I think I > speak for > > most of us, if not all, when I say your posts are welcome, whatever > they may > > be..... > > > > I noticed the inability to scan earlier posts myself recently. > > > > I dunno what may be wrong. I am not sure. > > > > .....termination pwr jumper missing for the drive or missing termination > > resistors? > > ....the drive is on the last connector of the cable....correct? > > You say no external HD is hooked, do you have an external Zip hooked???? > > > > Can you clarify exactly the scsi chain- > > > > for example: > > emax board ------ scsi cable------ last connector of cable ---- -- HD > > HD settings- which HD and what jumpers are there.... > > Confirm value of the termination resistors- they should be 220/330ohm. > > > > My Compact Flash drives are set as ID 0 on my Rack and keyboard. I > have slim > > floppy on both units. > > They work as you describe in the "bottom line" section of your post- > > If floppy is present, boot from it, if no floppy, boot from CF/HD...... > > > > I am using SE Plus 1.0 OS. > > > > Regards, > > Ted > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:22 AM, esynthesist <esynthesist@> wrote: > > > > > The problem below has probably been posted here before, but the > > > search engine on the yahoo groups seems not to scan older messages > > > anymore, so I thought I'm "allowed" give it another try: > > > > > > I just connected a hard disk to my Emax Plus Rack. Except for the > > > floppy drive, no other hard drive is connected to the Emax. The SCSI > > > ID of the HD is set to 0. > > > The problem is: the Emax only wants to boot from the floppy. Once > > > this is done, it recognizes the HD on SCSI ID O and I can load/unload > > > banks from it. The HD also contains the Plus operating system: it has > > > been formatted by the Emax and I performed an additional "copy > > > software" just to be sure... > > > > > > Now I read about this "cheat" of the floppy connector on the > > > motherboard (jumper between pins 25 and 26). > > > But that's mainly used for replacing the floppy drive by an internal > > > ZIP drive and making sure that the Emax still thinks a floppy drive > > > is connected. That's not what I want. > > > > > > Bottom line: I don't understand this boot issue with the Emax. In the > > > original documentation of Emu, it seemed perfectly possible to have > > > an Emax with both an internal HD and a floppy drive. When booting, > > > the Emax should first check the floppy drive; if no floppy disk is > > > found, the Emax should boot from the HD on SCSI ID 0. > > > It doesn't do that on mine, it doesn't even check the SCSI chain, it > > > immediately asks to insert a disk. > > > > > > So what do you think I'm doing wrong ? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > ///E-Synthesist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > As with all computer equipment there can be low level problems that > ultimately can be traced back to the button battery as in a CMOS/BIOS. > Have you ever replaced the internal battery? > > EASY SOLUTION: On an Emax II make sure your SCSI boot ID is right, > which is MASTER 9,6. Validate beforehand with DRIVE SELECT and the > DATA slider what SCSI ID is your HDD. > > BACKGROUND: > > I own an Emax II 2212 and have an external SCSI drive connected with > an ACTIVE TERMINATOR on the 'out/chain' connector of the box, in my > case, the top connector, the bottom has the cable. I booted with the > floppy and then followed the EMAX II manual for formatting a HD with > the OS included. It is a Connor 540mb so it took something like > nearly two hours to format by the Emax. Everything went well, etc. > and through 'DRIVE SELECT' and the DATA slider the settings I was able > to make sure what the true SCSI ID of the drive was, and through > MASTER 9,6 to make the SCSI BOOT ID the same value. In my case the > first boot ID was the SCSI 1, as an EMAX II considers the floppy as > SCSI 0. As long as I had it plugged into power it worked fine, even > being off for days at a time. Once I disassembled the setup and moved > it to another location, it did not want to recognize the SCSI device > first and asked for the floppy. > > I was puzzled so went back into DRIVE SELECT and the Data slider and > verified the location of the device on the chain, it was being seen > fine. Then I went into MASTER 9,6 and found that it had reverted back > to SCSI 0 which is the floppy. I just assumed that it got 'knocked > out' somehow just like needing to calibrate the sliders from time to > time, they just fall out for whatever reason. > > I don't know how different the Emax Plus rack model is from an Emax > II, but here are the steps as it pertains to my situation: > > 0. Verify you have an active terminator on your SCSI device! Mine has > a LED so I know it is working as it should. > 1. Make sure the external HD is well powered up before turning on the > Emax. I usually wait 10-15 seconds. > 2. Turn on the Emax and watch the display immediately. This can give > you alot of information in about one half second of time. As you > said, it is not searching the chain, so it is probably going straight > for the floppy. > 3. Go ahead and insert the floppy disk when prompted, let it boot > into the OS and then follow the instructions above, namely make sure > you know what the Emax is seeing your external HD as through DRIVE > SELECT and the data slider, then go into MASTER 9,6 to make sure it is > choosing that number to boot from over the floppy, which usually takes > up SCSI ID 0. > > I don't know why mine fell out and had to be reset like that, but I am > assuming it needs a new clock battery (as well as a backlight and B key!) > > GOOD LUCK! >
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Re: booting emax from hd
2009-01-05 by esynthesist
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