Emax

yeah i have no idea what could cause it...  i noticed it on a Baldwin i had
years ago while running a drum pattern from my ext sequencer but also had
sequences running to other gear on separate MIDI channels, including another
drum pattern to a Jomox Airbase99, and only noticed the sloppiness with the
Baldwin.  i did a little reading and the Emulator Archive page confirmed
this for Emax and mentioned the main processor being somewhat overloaded.

http://www.emulatorarchive.com/Archives/Samplers/EmaxOverview/EmaxTech/emaxtech.html

i've also experienced the same issue with my Emax rack i now use.  like i
said, it's not an issue for simple drum patterns but when you start doing a
16th note pattern on a hi hat for example, it's very easy to hear.

anyways there's always a work around in the studio and to me, owning an Emax
quite versatile in terms of offering true 8/12 bit samples of those vintage
drum machines like the Linn Drum or the DMX so i'm not complaining.  :)



On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:

> Well, your assertion is assuming the MIDI timing is a CPU issue and not one
> of a slightly off MIDI clock, or issue with the MIDI clock circuit design.
>
> Maybe that specific item could be looked into- does everyone have that same
> issue with the MIDI- or is something wrong with the MIDI circuit in  Brooks
> Emax?
>
> Any comments?
>
> Regards,
> Ted
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Brooks Mosher <brooksmosher@...
> >wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > well what if you like most of what the Emax can do but feel it's limited
> in
> > a small way? for example, personally, i love the sound, and i can deal
> with
> > most of it's limitations, but one thing that i do wish was improved upon
> is
> > the MIDI timing. trying to use it as a sampler for drums w/ an external
> > sequencer (as this is how i produce music) is a near impossible thing
> when
> > you start using more than 3 drum sounds, especially if you are doing more
> > than a simple 1-2 1-2 beat - i end up having to solo each drum part's
> > pattern and then multi track all of them which is something i prefer to
> > avoid since i lose that "live" feel i get otherwise.
> >
> > so wouldn't a faster cpu fix the MIDI timing problem? but then again,
> even
> > if it could in theory, wouldn't it be a monumental task and not really
> > worth
> > it at the end of the day? and i'm sure many people would just tell me to
> > get an Akai or use software programs and stop my bitching... ;)
> >
> > but yeah if the MIDI timing wasn't an issue the Emax would be a perfect
> > machine for me.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...<djtbs1%
> 40gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I am just wondering why people keep wanting to change the base
> > > underpinnings
> > > of the Emax hardware.
> > > If you aren't happy with what Emax does do, then maybe you need a
> > different
> > > piece of equipment or software to do this "other thing" you are looking
> > to
> > > do?
> > >
> > > I certainly understand wanting to maximize the possible options of the
> > > Emax.
> > > Heck if I could increase either the HD size / # of banks or Max sample
> > > memory in an Emax 1 that would be great.
> > >
> > > But to change out the CPU? What is the purpose of that?
> > > And the Echip is a special purpose IC. You can't just blindly utilize
> it
> > in
> > > a circuit....
> > >
> > > Without the Echip, the Emax is no longer an Emax, it would be something
> > > different.
> > > So I just don't get some of these comments.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:21 AM, jammie <jammie.emma@...
> <jammie.emma%40blueyonder.co.uk>
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > waste of time it would need to much hacking of motherboards to
> > impliment
> > > >
> > > > if you read the thread on the dx group it is for programming of sysex
> > > > strings so you change parameters on the fly but it only works on 1
> > > parameter
> > > > at a time and would need many more controls and code to impliment
> loads
> > > of
> > > > controls at a time problem with sysex data it can soon overload the
> > midi
> > > > channel
> > > >
> > > > he designed it so you colud change a param with out looking at the
> > panel
> > > > lcd and buttons in real time
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: thenewyorkcowboy
> >  > > To: emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com> <emax%
> > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:59 PM
> > > > Subject: [emax] Microcontroller
> > > >
> > > > I just saw this post on the Yamaha DX group and thought I would put
> it
> > > here
> > > > for us to comment on as well. Don't know how it might apply but ideas
> > are
> > > > welcome. My initial thought is somehow using this to translate the
> EMAX
> > > > source code into something that we could understand and modify, then
> we
> > > > could write a new OS that would implement the new features of the
> extra
> > > > stuff we put in, or possibly if the stars were aligned we could even
> > > replace
> > > > the dated microprocessor of the EMAX with this one and write brand
> new
> > > > code...
> > > >
> > > > Here is the Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmel_AVR
> > > >
> > > > Re: Editor Librarians for TX81Z
> > > > Posted by: "Alan Probandt" alan_probandt at yahoo.com alan_probandt
> > > > Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:18 am (PST)
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > > I have noticed the trend towards over-complication that was mentioned
> > in
> > > > your message and agree. However instead of resurrecting 1980s 8-bit
> > home
> > > > computers, I suggest looking into the modern microcontroller scene
> that
> > > is
> > > > always improving in terms of performance for the price.
> > > > I have been doing MIDI development with the Atmel AVR microcontroller
> a
> > > lot
> > > > for the past five years or so. I don't have a lot to show for it,
> from
> > a
> > > > professional perspective, but what has been done is in open source
> and
> > > > available. The AVR is almost a 1980s home computer on a inexpensive
> > chip.
> > > > There is a 20MHz CPU core running 130+ op-codes, two or three
> > > input/output
> > > > ports, a serial port UART or two, a cluster of 10 bit analog/digital
> > > > convertors, several timers, and a Flash ROM space of 4K bytes to 128K
> > > bytes.
> > > > Lacking is big on-board RAM, video, and sound generators. Programs
> are
> > > > written in free assemblers or C compilers and loaded into the flash
> > ROM.
> > > No
> > > > need for ultraviolet erasers any more. All programs are stored in the
> > > ROM.
> > > > No program code runs from RAM, which makes AVRs different from home
> > > > computers.
> > > > Video can be done using attached LCD graphics modules that sell for
> > about
> > > > $20. Sound ICs have disappeared probably for good, but MP3 and MIDI
> are
> > > > straightforward to implement. Massive data storage is done on small
> > cheap
> > > SD
> > > > Flash cards at a cost of about $10 per gigabyte.
> > > > AVRs have the same programming 'feel' that the old home computers do,
> > but
> > > > they are much more widely available. There isn't any concern that a
> > > program
> > > > written for DOS or Commodore 64 can't be shared because the hardware
> is
> > > > unobtainable.
> > > > The 10-year-old 8-bit 20MHz $8 AVR is on the verge of being replaced
> by
> > > the
> > > > $4 50MHz 32bit ARM-family of microcontrollers, specifically the
> Cortex
> > > M3.
> > > > This device is made by many companies, but it is much more difficult
> to
> > > > program and is 'overkill' for MIDI applications.
> > > >
> > > > Just a brief update on the alternatives to using unprogrammable
> desktop
> > > PCs
> > > > for MIDI applications.
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