Jammie, Ok let me run through this stuff and make sure I understand correctly (I should be able to do all the tests later today or tomorrow): 1. SSM2300s are fed by the *74HCT273* latching circuit. Is this the name of the actual circuit as per the schematics or is it a specific IC or other component? 2. I need to check the following pins on *IC49 (AD7524): * * ----> pin 8 should be +10V -----> pin 4 should be -12V -----> pin 3 is GROUND -----> pin 14 should be +5V 3. I need to check the following pins on IC41 (tlo82): -----> pin 1 should be 0-5V (this is the output to all SSM2300s) Which pin on IC41(tlo82) is GROUND? 4. I need to check the voltages on these pins on all SSM2300s: ----> pin 7 should be -5V ----> pin 8 is GROUND ----> pin 16 should be +10V 5. ICil327 is the -5V regulator, so if I am nto getting this voltage to the SSM2300s I can try replacing this? 6. Transistor TIP29 / QQ306 is the +10V regulator. It is attached to a heatsink ZE323. If I am not getting +10V I can try replacing this transistor? Just wanted to summarize your instructions. I will check all this stuff as soon as I get to the studio (there is a snowstorm here and my car is stuck currently). Thank you for guiding me through this again. Preslav * On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:26 AM, jammie <jammie.emma@...>wrote: > > > the -5v regulator is ic il327 > > the tip29 npn power transister does the 10v it is qq306 it is attached to > t0-220 heatsink ze323 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Preslav Lefterov" <plefterov@... <plefterov%40gmail.com>> > To: <emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>> > Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 1:35 AM > Subject: Re: [emax] Re: Emax Problem Diagnosis > > > Thanks for your help. Here are the readings: > > > > OR/GR = 12.48V > > YE/GR = 5.0V > > PU/GR = 12.18 (if i measure with red probe on green wire and black probe > > on > > the purple) or -12.18V (if I measure with the red probe on the purple and > > black probe on the green) > > > > The floppy drive works perfectly...it loads the OS and and > > samples/presets. > > > > I appreciate your time. > > > > Preslav > > > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 7:17 PM, jammie <jammie.emma@...<jammie.emma%40blueyonder.co.uk>> > > > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> > >> test each wire conection > >> > >> orange and green wires red probe on the orange black probe on the green > >> for > >> +12v > >> > >> yellow and green wires red probe for yellow wire black probe on the > green > >> wire for +5v > >> > >> purple and green wires red probe on the green wire black probe on the > >> purple wire for -12v > >> > >> test this for me and give me your readings > >> > >> does the floppy drive work as this is the 5v line > >> > >> the 5 v on the mother boards for other circuits gets its 5v from power > >> regulators of the +12v supply > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: preslavl > >> To: emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com> <emax% > 40yahoogroups.com> > >> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:37 PM > >> Subject: [emax] Re: Emax Problem Diagnosis > >> > >> So I tried testing the voltages at the connector that goes between the > PS > >> board and the CPU Board. I tested on the PS side. If I follow the color > >> coding I read in a message on here somewhere: Yellow (+5V), Orange > >> (+12V), > >> Purple (-12V), and Green (0V/Ground). > >> > >> I get nowhere near those voltages...now I might be doing this completely > >> wrong, but I get +12V at the Green wire, and 0v at the Yellow (where I > >> should be getting +5V). I also get +17V at the Orange wire... > >> > >> Again, I'm not sure if I'm testing at the correct points. By the way I'm > >> still getting sound out of the Emax so it has not exploded in my hands > as > >> of > >> yet. > >> > >> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com> <emax% > 40yahoogroups.com>, "jammie" > > >> <jammie.emma@...> wrote: > >> > > >> > right the cv (control voltages for the filter cutoff vca and resonance > >> are sent by the cv circuit ranging from 0v-5v > >> > > >> > which is sent by the cpu for control off the filter depending on > >> > envelope > >> settings or external controllers > >> > > >> > now the ssm2300 are sample and hold circuits they send out the digital > >> info into analog voltages which are sampled then transmitted as a > voltage > >> in > >> the range of 0-5v 0v = 0 resonance 5v = full resonance > >> > > >> > or cut off or vca volume > >> > > >> > thats what the first 3 ssm2300 deal with > >> > > >> > the 4th ssm2300 deals with the digital signal comming from the dacs > >> > this > >> is the samples that are transmitted from the ram to the dacs and to the > >> samplre and hold circuits which send out voltages 0-5v which corispond > to > >> the digital sound into analog format > >> > > >> > now if you are getting sound out then the ssm2300 for that part of the > >> circuit is working it seems to be the cv circuit that you are having a > >> problem with not being sent into the ssm2300 to be made into the analog > >> control voltages > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: preslavl > >> > To: emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com> <emax% > 40yahoogroups.com> > >> > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:18 PM > >> > Subject: [emax] Re: Emax Problem Diagnosis > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Let me make sure I understand you correctly: > >> > > >> > What you describe is one test: checking that the 2300s are getting the > >> correct voltage from the 5v supply? And I should be getting +/- 12V and > >> ground? Are there testpoints visible or is it pretty obvious where to > >> test > >> it? > >> > > >> > Thanks for the quick reply > >> > > >> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com> <emax% > 40yahoogroups.com>, "jammie" > > >> <jammie.emma@> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > check the 5 v supply as this is the control voltage of the filters > >> > > > >> > > the cv control gets sent to 1 of the 2300 for fc 1 for resonance 1 > is > >> for the vca and thhe other is for the dacs for the 8 note polyphony each > >> octal sample and hold circuits for each of the functions > >> > > > >> > > check to see that you are getting the corect voltage for operation > of > >> the 2300 or 4051 or smp08 > >> > > > >> > > if i was to change them then i would upgrade them to the newer > faster > >> slew rate the smp08 are the best and are from analog devices and are > >> direct > >> replacements for the ssm2300 which are 4051 equivelents made by emu > >> > > > >> > > the smp08 they have a faster slew rate and have faster transient > >> response with less distortion > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > you should be getting 12vdc vdd and grnd > >> > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: preslavl > >> > > To: emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com> <emax% > 40yahoogroups.com> > >> > > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 5:54 PM > >> > > Subject: [emax] Emax Problem Diagnosis > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Hello, > >> > > > >> > > I wanted to see if I can get some help diagnosing the problem(s) of > >> > > an > >> Emax I i just purchased. > >> > > > >> > > Here are they symptoms: > >> > > > >> > > - No Frequency Cutoff - I calibrated the data slider and it > registers > >> the frequency cutoff (FC) going up in numbers but you cannot hear any > >> change. > >> > > > >> > > - No Attack in the ADSR or the filter ADSR - cannot hear an increase > > >> > > in > >> attack even when the values increase. > >> > > > >> > > - No Volume - volume slider was calibrated and it seems to work but > >> moving it up or down does not make a difference...volume seems to be at > >> 100%. > >> > > > >> > > These are pretty much all the symptoms I've notices so far. > >> > > > >> > > Things I've covered so far: > >> > > > >> > > - I replaced the 4 SSM 2300 that were in the sampler - it did not > >> > > seem > >> to make ANY difference. I replaced the original chips with ones marked: > >> "SSM2300 8652". I purchased these on eBAY. Could this be the issue? > >> > > > >> > > - I went through the recalibration procedure - no change. > >> > > > >> > > - I performed the diagnostic tests inside the Master menu (8, 8, > >> > > YES). > >> ERAM and Bank RAM checked out OK and all other tests seemed to have > >> passed. > >> > > > >> > > Any ideas anyone? > >> > > > >> > > Thank you, > >> > > > >> > > Preslav > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message. > >> > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >> > > Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2669 - Release Date: > >> 02/05/10 07:35:00 > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------- > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. > >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >> > Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2669 - Release Date: > >> > 02/05/10 > >> 07:35:00 > >> > > >> > > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >> Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2669 - Release Date: 02/05/10 > >> 07:35:00 > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Emax and Emax II User's Group Website > > > > http://www.silveriafamily.comYahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2669 - Release Date: 02/05/10 > 07:35:00 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [emax] Re: Emax Problem Diagnosis
2010-02-06 by Preslav Lefterov
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