Emax

What was the result of getting the regular MS driver to work with normal floppy disks and being able to successfully format them through windows?

Is there a normal 4 pin floppy power supply connection as well?

Composite devices though they are space savers can be very complicated, possibly sharing common power or ground with each other only isolated by a tiny sms fuse which could blow and render the unit dead.

I would still try to find or buy a new standard floppy, and a brand new cable, such as the one that was bundled with the motherboard if it is a custom build.  Also verify that you know where pin 1 is both on the motherboard and the floppy and match the red stripe.

If the light on the floppy stays on continually instead of the normal "check status" signal from the BIOS (halt on errors, floppy seek, etc.) Then you know you have the cable the wrong way.

--- In emax@...m, el macaco <elmacaco@...> wrote:
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> I can't remember the color, but I will check when I get home, and I will also check the BIOS again for enable floppy A or B.
>  
> When I run Omniflop it askes me to select the floppy drive A or B, but I only have one (A I presume) so something might not be right in Bios or in the hardware.
>  
> Thanks guys I really appreciate the guidance.
>  
> Ed
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> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> From: jammie.emma@...
> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:58:06 +0100
> Subject: Re: [emax] Re: Can't install Omnniflop Driver on Windows 7 ?
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> in your bios it should enable floppy either floppy a or b
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "el macaco" <elmacaco@...>
> To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:27 PM
> Subject: RE: [emax] Re: Can't install Omnniflop Driver on Windows 7 ?
> 
> >
> > Thanks Jammie,
> >
> > It has a floppy cable connector inside, and that's what I connected my old 
> > floppy drive to with the old cable. Could this still have a USB 
> > controller instead of a Floppy Hardware IC controller if it has the usual 
> > floppy connector?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> > From: jammie.emma@...
> > Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:23:05 +0100
> > Subject: Re: [emax] Re: Can't install Omnniflop Driver on Windows 7 ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > thats usb mode for floppy drive slot it enables a usb header pin for usb
> > floppy and flash drive
> >
> > check to see that your motherboard has a floppy controller see your mother
> > board manufacturers site as it might be a usb version and they dont work 
> > you
> > need a dedicated floppy hardware ic controller as this is what omniflop
> > controls
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "el macaco" <elmacaco@...>
> > To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:16 PM
> > Subject: RE: [emax] Re: Can't install Omnniflop Driver on Windows 7 ?
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks Jammie & Cowboy,
> >>
> >> Good point. I will make sure the floppy is working with the regular
> >> driver (I really only need the floppy for the emax so that's all I was
> >> testing).
> >>
> >> If I can use the floppy with the MS driver to read and write disks is 
> >> that
> >> an indication that the drive and cable are OK, or should I still swap to
> >> see if the omniflop driver will work?
> >>
> >> I checked the BIOS, floppy drive was enabled.
> >>
> >> This floppy drive has a mode where it enables a 3 card slot mode, I
> >> suppose for a Flash card reader with 3 slots. This is disabled by default
> >> (called regular floppy mode) would enabling that to test it out hurt
> >> anything? I don't think it would help so I won't do it even in
> >> desperation, but it might tell something about the motherboard floppy
> >> sitation.
> >>
> >> I am in contact with the Omniflop guy and I hope to find a solution soon.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Ed
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> >> From: thenewyorkcowboy@...
> >> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:00:09 +0000
> >> Subject: [emax] Re: Can't install Omnniflop Driver on Windows 7 ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> In my experience there are basic differences sometimes with hardware
> >> compatibility. Just because you think your floppy drive from your old
> >> hardware is in perfect working condition, doesn't mean your new
> >> motherboard will like it the right way. There is like around a 20% chance
> >> your present floppy (OR FLOPPY CABLE) is incompatible with your
> >> motherboard. I have seen those circumstances and just swapping out the
> >> floppy (or cable) with a new one will fix it.
> >>
> >> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, el macaco <elmacaco@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Kris,
> >>>
> >>> My motherboard had a floppy connector and I grabbed the floppy from my
> >>> old PC. I only use EMXP with my Emax, so that's all the functionality I
> >>> need, however, if it is considerable time, I don't blame you if you 
> >>> don't
> >>> get right on it.
> >>>
> >>> I've spenty way to long trying the solution on the omniflop website over
> >>> and over and it never worked. I'll have a look at some other tests.
> >>>
> >>> I'd say lets see if Mr. Omniflop has anything to offer before you start
> >>> any wasted effort. But if there is no solution, then I would be very
> >>> happy to use your old driver.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks so much man,
> >>>
> >>> Ed
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> >>> From: esynthesist@
> >>> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:26:06 +0000
> >>> Subject: [emax] Re: Can't install Omnniflop Driver on Windows 7 ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Ed,
> >>>
> >>> I'm not really aware of people using Windows 7 64bit with EMXP and
> >>> OmniFlop - I can not say for sure that it works, I don't have a Windows 
> >>> 7
> >>> system to test it myself.
> >>> Most Windows 7 systems are installed on new PC's which don't have any
> >>> internal floppy drive anymore, so people using EMXP on such machine are
> >>> typically not using the floppy disk functions of EMXP...
> >>>
> >>> OmniFlop is the only driver that currently can be used by EMXP. I'm
> >>> thinking about adding another one (which is also faster), but it needs
> >>> some additional programming and testing which will take some time...and
> >>> I'm currently in the middle of building version 2.11 with Emulator-I
> >>> support.
> >>>
> >>> As a temporary quick win, I could consider to re-release the very first
> >>> 0.9 version of EMXP based on another floppy driver. That could be done
> >>> much faster I guess, because the code base was very compact and simple.
> >>> Version 0.9 was only capable of reading, writing and formatting Emax
> >>> floppy disks, but that's sufficient for you I guess. And the files
> >>> created/read by version 0.9 are the EMX files (.EM1, .EMX) which are 
> >>> also
> >>> used by the current EMXP version.
> >>>
> >>> But if someone else has successfully used OmniFlop with Windows 7 64bit,
> >>> there's little chance I will do the effort :-)
> >>>
> >>> ///E-Synthesist
> >>>
> >>> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, el macaco <elmacaco@> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks Jammie,
> >>> >
> >>> > But I am installing logged in as administrator, at least it lets me go
> >>> > through with it and I have other admin access.
> >>> >
> >>> > There are instructions on the omniflop site that talk about how 64 bit
> >>> > windows OS's have some new drivier signing system, and it shows two
> >>> > ways to override them. A temporary and a permanent.
> >>> > See here:
> >>> >
> >>> > http://www.shlock.co.uk/Utils/OmniFlop/OmniFlop64.htm#Installation
> >>> >
> >>> > I have tried both, and I never get a usable omniflop driver. I have
> >>> > access to the basic disk systems (emu EOS and Emu ESI) but not emax
> >>> > file systems. I can't use it with Omniflop or with EMXP. In fact, on
> >>> > that same page it says that the 64 bit omniflop is not guaranteed and
> >>> > untested.
> >>> >
> >>> > I also tried installing the 32 bit driver, but that gives me an error
> >>> > before installing saying that it is not designed for this platform.
> >>> >
> >>> > Is anyone using the 64 bit Omniflop driver successfully? I really just
> >>> > need it for EMXP, for my emax, that's it, so if there is another 
> >>> > floppy
> >>> > driver that will support EMXP and Emax format disks please let me 
> >>> > know.
> >>> >
> >>> > This is somewhat curious, when I install the Omniflop driver and
> >>> > reboot, the display in device manager says floppy disk drive with an 
> >>> > !,
> >>> > but when I look at the details it has the OmniFlop driver info, when I
> >>> > roll back the driver to the microsoft one, the display in device
> >>> > manager says Omniflop Enhanced Floppy disk drive, even when I reboot,
> >>> > and when I look at the driver details it says the microsoft details. I
> >>> > wonder why it has the information for the drivers reversed? Maybe that
> >>> > can help solve it/ I am going to email the Omniflop guy now too.
> >>> >
> >>> > Hey Kris,
> >>> >
> >>> > you must have other 64 bit EMXP users right, do they have omniflop
> >>> > installed?
> >>> >
> >>> > If anyone has success stories or any suggestions I am all earts, I
> >>> > don;t really want to use a second computer for EMXP or mess with other
> >>> > operating systems etc.
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks,
> >>> >
> >>> > Ed
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> >>> > From: jammie.emma@
> >>> > Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:12:40 +0100
> >>> > Subject: Re: [emax] Can't install Omnniflop Driver on Windows 7 ?
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > you need to install it as administrator
> >>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> > From: elmacaco@
> >>> > To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> >>> > Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 5:40 PM
> >>> > Subject: [emax] Can't install Omnniflop Driver on Windows 7 ?
> >>> >
> >>> > Hey Guys, I have a new windows 7 Home premium 64 bit machine, my
> >>> > motherboard has a floppy drive connector and it works with the 
> >>> > standard
> >>> > Windows driver.
> >>> >
> >>> > When I try to install the omniflop driver (Ive tried both the 64 bit
> >>> > version and the 32 bit driver, which is newer) it goes through the
> >>> > motions, but when I start Omniflop ( to make an EIII OS disk for a
> >>> > friend) I get an error that the driver isnt installed correctly.
> >>> >
> >>> > I get the warning
> >>> >
> >>> > "No OmniFlop Driver"
> >>> >
> >>> > The Omniflop driver is not installed correctly.
> >>> >
> >>> > When I look in the device manager at the Floppy Disk Driver details, I
> >>> > see the following error.
> >>> >
> >>> > Windows cannot verify the digital signature for the drivers required
> >>> > for this device. A recent hardware or software change might have
> >>> > installed a file that is signed incorrectly or damaged, or that might
> >>> > be malicious software from an unknown source. (Code 52)
> >>> >
> >>> > I am trying some solutions now but not having any luck, has anyone
> >>> > encountered this or perhaps know of a solution? Is anyone using EMXP
> >>> > with the omniflop driver on Windows 7 Home Premium?
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks,
> >>> >
> >>> > Ed
> >>> >
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> >> Emax and Emax II User's Group Website
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> >> http://www.silveriafamily.comYahoo! Groups Links
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