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Dang it. It just snapped in my head. What a pain to copy the presets the truncate the samples that way. Was this process easier in the SP1200?? 

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On Oct 5, 2011, at 2:57 AM, Matt Livingston <mlivingston8@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello again. So I know I can use recycle to make my loops but I really want to do it all in the Emax so that's the meaning of my persistence. So I tried again and still can't figure it out. The manual confirms that unless the sample is being used in another preset it will not prompt you to make a copy before truncation. The manual also states that if two voices in the same preset use the same sample then any changes will affect both voices. That's my problem, copying voices in the same preset doesn't work as any truncation affects all copies. Am I just way off in the process and is there another method? Am I just going to have to truncate and then resample the vinyl for every loop here? Seems like it should be much more efficient. 
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> On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:01 PM, <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
> 
>> yes that is how it is done on the emax
>> 
>> like i said it would be easier to use recycle and then save the chops as wave and use emxp to place them in a preset
>> 
>> if you have not got recycle then send the file to me and ill chop it for you
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Dave Sotnick 
>> To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 12:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [emax] Sample slice possible on Emax?
>> 
>> I think the trick here is that you need to copy the original sample
>> (voice) that you want to chop up.
>> 
>> If you go into preset definition module -> copy voices (this is all
>> from memory, so bear with me if I get the module wrong). Copy the
>> sample from the first set of keys (or key) to a new location.
>> 
>> Now when you go into Digital Processing to edit either of the two
>> voices you now have, you will be prompted to copy the voice before
>> editing (as it exists on multiple key ranges) -- This is the key step!
>> 
>> Once you have made a copy of the voice, truncate it to the bit you
>> want, make the truncation permanent (remember you still have the other
>> voice as a copy), and then repeat the process for all the chopped up
>> bits you need (copy voice, digital processing, truncate, make
>> permanent, repeat...)
>> 
>> That's how I would have done it in '88 :-)
>> 
>> -Dave
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:42 PM, matt livingston <mlivingston8@...> wrote:
>> > Jamie, I had a chance to try it again today but the only place to set the in
>> > and out points on the sample are in the turnicate menu option. I can set
>> > the points but after I press "no" to permanently alter the sample, it goes
>> > back to normal after backing out of "digital precessing." Is this just how
>> > it is or am I just completely blind to the process. I've tried reading the
>> > manual to no avail yet. I'm basically trying to sequence some drum hits and
>> > play back vinyl loops at the same time. Unless I turnicate the vinyl sample
>> > I can't get back out to preset mode to get everything going at the same
>> > time. Sorry for my ignorance.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Matt Livingston <mlivingston8@...>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ok, thanks. I don't know why I didn't think of that.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
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>> >> On Oct 3, 2011, at 3:27 AM, <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> assign the sample again to the next key you want and change the start and
>> >> loop
>> >>
>> >> if you truncate you are basically chucking the rest of the sample away
>> >>
>> >> thats how its done on the sp1200 its the same loop say a 4 bar then
>> >>
>> >> then you fine tune it by by listening to were the sample is then moving the
>> >> start to that position and then listening from there to the piont you want
>> >> it to play to then you loop it to that position
>> >>
>> >> dont truncate
>> >>
>> >> as for slicing that did not come along until 1995 when propellar heads
>> >> braught out recycle and it was not available to samplers untill the mpc4000
>> >> and the other samplers of that era
>> >>
>> >> the easiest way is use a sound editer and have the editor show the samples
>> >> in samples then you will be able to see axcactly were you need to set your
>> >> points
>> >>
>> >> but on the old machines it was done by trial and error and the listening
>> >> ear
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: mlivingston8
>> >> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>> >> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 4:21 AM
>> >> Subject: [emax] Sample slice possible on Emax?
>> >>
>> >> So I took the weekend to to wrap my head around creating my own sample
>> >> disks with the Emax. I got really far converting samples with EMXP as well
>> >> as real time sampling with the direct in on the Emax, all easy enough and
>> >> straight forward. But for my practical purposes I ran into a dead end when I
>> >> wanted to separate a sample into "slices" after I recorded a loop from a
>> >> vinyl record sped up to the max rate.
>> >>
>> >> Bottom line, I have a 4 bar loop recorded and turnicated exactly how I want
>> >> it from start to stop. I want to take this four bar loop and turn it into
>> >> four one bar loops on their key ranges. I tried to copy this four bar loop
>> >> to four different key ranges but then after I turnicate one sample into a
>> >> "slice" the other "copies" also turnicate the same way. Am I missing
>> >> something or do I have to record the sample, turnicate to 1 bar loop, record
>> >> again, turnicate the next loop... etc, etc?
>> >>
>> >> I've never used the SP1200 but it seems as if it's OS has a "slice"
>> >> function built in as it's been a staple in sample based music. Am I missing
>> >> something or does "slice" in some form or fashion not exist in the Emax? Any
>> >> help or workflow suggestions appreciated!
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