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Re: [emax] EMU Parts Jammie or Ted?

2013-12-03 by jammie

no filters are ssm actually designed by emu ssm was there chip company

cutis was made by doug curtis now onchip since he died and they still make a few of the cuurtis chips

the dual vca is still produced and a resonant vc 4pole filter is still made for dave smith

the octal sample and holds are still made but with better slew rate like the analog devices sm08 and sm16

most of the other parts are logic devices and you can buy new equivelents that perform the same but use less current

most chips are still available as nos chips

the echip is the only chip that is hard to get

the emax 2 does not have analog filters but uses a special dsp asic chip for the filters known as the g chip then in later models like the EIIIX the h chip was used and they used 2 of them to create the zplane filters first saw in the morpheous then the e4 range of samplers  and the later emu modules

you know if an eprom has gone bad by reading it on a reader burner as it will let you know if there are any bad sectors

most of the time its a bad cap or resistor dragging pins down to ground or leaving a open circuit in the case of bad resistor

same if a signal diode goes
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: windrumscoggin@... 
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  Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 4:28 PM
  Subject: [emax] EMU Parts Jammie or Ted?


    

  Is it my imagination or are internal EMU parts getting extremely hard to come by?
  Mine went on the bllink over something simple yesterday and I was shopping
  local techs who mostly said they couldn't or wouldn't do the work.
  Luckily for me, Ted was kind enough to take a look at mine when it stopped reading from the SCSI bus..
  As far as parts, where would we go if we needed replacements? Old junk units like the one being sold  from a member who just listed in on eBay UK?
  I will take a wild swing and assume the analog filters used on EMU are Curtis and not some other proprietary....also....
  the EEPROMS...how do you know if they have gone bad? and if you are skilled enough to determine one indeed went, and you need the EEPROMS replaced you will have to find someone with the ability to 'blow ' a new one using the original code off the bad one if it isn't already fried and lost its 1's and 0's. That being said someone needs to figure out a way to find replacement blank EEPROMS then blow the code on them so we have backups for the future....It would certainly help.....
  As far as the mobo, its find an old one, right? Aside from the obviouls 'burn through' you will get with some, not all trace burns are obvious... and if you do find the bad trace you better be a  damned good soldering man who can work PCB's -this is where the  original schematics would come in handy...which I am sure are readily available...needless to say, all time consuming and by the time you ared done, makes you an bona fide EMU repair guy....get good at this and you would have a nice side business stocking up old emu EEPROMS/parts/filters/mobos etc.....the thing is, with the EEPROMS you just gotta get the burner for it and learn how to burn em right?
  As far as  the FDD..they are extremely hard to find /rare in the tooth...and good luck finding a replacement FDD if it goes bad. especially the bigger EMU units...you actually need to find someone that can (or is willing to) repair and recalibrate the 5-1/4 inch FDD on most of the EMU units. If I am not mistaken there is a  special proprietary boot sector read/write schema that EMU used for their FDD's, correct?. Any new unit must be calibrated to the same if it is not an NOS FDD, correct?
  Feel free to chime in
  Cheers and happy music making with your Emulator II!

  
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Re: [emax] EMU Parts Jammie or Ted?

2013-12-03 by Windrum Scoggin

What about the original
EMU Stock FDD?
Is it 'repairable' or not?
Why that particular one...why not just repair the old drive?
As far as the above..
Thing is, its not even NOS?
and what has he done to that drive
that makes it any more 'special'
or usable than any other 'off the shelf' 20 dollar FDD one can buy on eBay?
I'd say 129 for an FDD that isn't even NOS is a bit steep, wouldn't you say?


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On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:42 AM, jammie <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

no filters are ssm actually designed by emu ssm was there chip company
cutis was made by doug curtis now onchip since he died and they still make a few of the cuurtis chips
the dual vca is still produced and a resonant vc 4pole filter is still made for dave smith
the octal sample and holds are still made but with better slew rate like the analog devices sm08 and sm16
most of the other parts are logic devices and you can buy new equivelents that perform the same but use less current
most chips are still available as nos chips
the echip is the only chip that is hard to get
the emax 2 does not have analog filters but uses a special dsp asic chip for the filters known as the g chip then in later models like the EIIIX the h chip was used and they used 2 of them to create the zplane filters first saw in the morpheous then the e4 range of samplers and the later emu modules
you know if an eprom has gone bad by reading it on a reader burner as it will let you know if there are any bad sectors
most of the time its a bad cap or resistor dragging pins down to ground or leaving a open circuit in the case of bad resistor
same if a signal diode goes
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 4:28 PM
Subject: [emax] EMU Parts Jammie or Ted?

Is it my imagination or are internal EMU parts getting extremely hard to come by?
Mine went on the bllink over something simple yesterday and I was shopping
local techs who mostly said they couldn't or wouldn't do the work.
Luckily for me, Ted was kind enough to take a look at mine when it stopped reading from the SCSI bus..
As far as parts, where would we go if we needed replacements? Old junk units like the one being sold from a member who just listed in on eBay UK?
I will take a wild swing and assume the analog filters used on EMU are Curtis and not some other proprietary....also....
the EEPROMS...how do you know if they have gone bad? and if you are skilled enough to determine one indeed went, and you need the EEPROMS replaced you will have to find someone with the ability to 'blow ' a new one using the original code off the bad one if it isn't already fried and lost its 1's and 0's. That being said someone needs to figure out a way to find replacement blank EEPROMS then blow the code on them so we have backups for the future....It would certainly help.....
As far as the mobo, its find an old one, right? Aside from the obviouls 'burn through' you will get with some, not all trace burns are obvious... and if you do find the bad trace you better be a damned good soldering man who can work PCB's -this is where the original schematics would come in handy...which I am sure are readily available...needless to say, all time consuming and by the time you ared done, makes you an bona fide EMU repair guy....get good at this and you would have a nice side business stocking up old emu EEPROMS/parts/filters/mobos etc.....the thing is, with the EEPROMS you just gotta get the burner for it and learn how to burn em right?
As far as the FDD..they are extremely hard to find /rare in the tooth...and good luck finding a replacement FDD if it goes bad. especially the bigger EMU units...you actually need to find someone that can (or is willing to) repair and recalibrate the 5-1/4 inch FDD on most of the EMU units. If I am not mistaken there is a special proprietary boot sector read/write schema that EMU used for their FDD's, correct?. Any new unit must be calibrated to the same if it is not an NOS FDD, correct?
Feel free to chime in
Cheers and happy music making with your Emulator II!

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Re: [emax] EMU Parts Jammie or Ted?

2013-12-03 by jammie

for what it costs to get repaired you can buy a new one
but you can get them much cheaper than those you just need one with jumpers
but you will never get the large format ones
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [emax] EMU Parts Jammie or Ted?

What about the original
EMU Stock FDD?
Is it 'repairable' or not?
Why that particular one...why not just repair the old drive?
As far as the above..
Thing is, its not even NOS?
and what has he done to that drive
that makes it any more 'special'
or usable than any other 'off the shelf' 20 dollar FDD one can buy on eBay?
I'd say 129 for an FDD that isn't even NOS is a bit steep, wouldn't you say?


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:42 AM, jammie <jammie.emma@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

no filters are ssm actually designed by emu ssm was there chip company
cutis was made by doug curtis now onchip since he died and they still make a few of the cuurtis chips
the dual vca is still produced and a resonant vc 4pole filter is still made for dave smith
the octal sample and holds are still made but with better slew rate like the analog devices sm08 and sm16
most of the other parts are logic devices and you can buy new equivelents that perform the same but use less current
most chips are still available as nos chips
the echip is the only chip that is hard to get
the emax 2 does not have analog filters but uses a special dsp asic chip for the filters known as the g chip then in later models like the EIIIX the h chip was used and they used 2 of them to create the zplane filters first saw in the morpheous then the e4 range of samplers and the later emu modules
you know if an eprom has gone bad by reading it on a reader burner as it will let you know if there are any bad sectors
most of the time its a bad cap or resistor dragging pins down to ground or leaving a open circuit in the case of bad resistor
same if a signal diode goes
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 4:28 PM
Subject: [emax] EMU Parts Jammie or Ted?

Is it my imagination or are internal EMU parts getting extremely hard to come by?
Mine went on the bllink over something simple yesterday and I was shopping
local techs who mostly said they couldn't or wouldn't do the work.
Luckily for me, Ted was kind enough to take a look at mine when it stopped reading from the SCSI bus..
As far as parts, where would we go if we needed replacements? Old junk units like the one being sold from a member who just listed in on eBay UK?
I will take a wild swing and assume the analog filters used on EMU are Curtis and not some other proprietary....also....
the EEPROMS...how do you know if they have gone bad? and if you are skilled enough to determine one indeed went, and you need the EEPROMS replaced you will have to find someone with the ability to 'blow ' a new one using the original code off the bad one if it isn't already fried and lost its 1's and 0's. That being said someone needs to figure out a way to find replacement blank EEPROMS then blow the code on them so we have backups for the future....It would certainly help.....
As far as the mobo, its find an old one, right? Aside from the obviouls 'burn through' you will get with some, not all trace burns are obvious... and if you do find the bad trace you better be a damned good soldering man who can work PCB's -this is where the original schematics would come in handy...which I am sure are readily available...needless to say, all time consuming and by the time you ared done, makes you an bona fide EMU repair guy....get good at this and you would have a nice side business stocking up old emu EEPROMS/parts/filters/mobos etc.....the thing is, with the EEPROMS you just gotta get the burner for it and learn how to burn em right?
As far as the FDD..they are extremely hard to find /rare in the tooth...and good luck finding a replacement FDD if it goes bad. especially the bigger EMU units...you actually need to find someone that can (or is willing to) repair and recalibrate the 5-1/4 inch FDD on most of the EMU units. If I am not mistaken there is a special proprietary boot sector read/write schema that EMU used for their FDD's, correct?. Any new unit must be calibrated to the same if it is not an NOS FDD, correct?
Feel free to chime in
Cheers and happy music making with your Emulator II!

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Re: [emax] EMU Parts Jammie or Ted?

2013-12-03 by Windrum Scoggin

ok then, what 'jumpers' are you referring to (Ie where on the drive is the J pin located) and what make and model should I buy?
cheers

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On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:15 AM, jammie <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

for what it costs to get repaired you can buy a new one
but you can get them much cheaper than those you just need one with jumpers
but you will never get the large format ones
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [emax] EMU Parts Jammie or Ted?

What about the original
EMU Stock FDD?
Is it 'repairable' or not?
Why that particular one...why not just repair the old drive?
As far as the above..
Thing is, its not even NOS?
and what has he done to that drive
that makes it any more 'special'
or usable than any other 'off the shelf' 20 dollar FDD one can buy on eBay?
I'd say 129 for an FDD that isn';t even NOS is a bit steep, wouldn't you say?


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:42 AM, jammie <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

no filters are ssm actually designed by emu ssm was there chip company
cutis was made by doug curtis now onchip since he died and they still make a few of the cuurtis chips
the dual vca is still produced and a resonant vc 4pole filter is still made for dave smith
the octal sample and holds are still made but with better slew rate like the analog devices sm08 and sm16
most of the other parts are logic devices and you can buy new equivelents that perform the same but use less current
most chips are still available as nos chips
the echip is the only chip that is hard to get
the emax 2 does not have analog filters but uses a special dsp asic chip for the filters known as the g chip then in later models like the EIIIX the h chip was used and they used 2 of them to create the zplane filters first saw in the morpheous then the e4 range of samplers and the later emu modules
you know if an eprom has gone bad by reading it on a reader burner as it will let you know if there are any bad sectors
most of the time its a bad cap or resistor dragging pins down to ground or leaving a open circuit in the case of bad resistor
same if a signal diode goes
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 4:28 PM
Subject: [emax] EMU Parts Jammie or Ted?

Is it my imagination or are internal EMU parts getting extremely hard to come by?
Mine went on the bllink over something simple yesterday and I was shopping
local techs who mostly said they couldn't or wouldn't do the work.
Luckily for me, Ted was kind enough to take a look at mine when it stopped reading from the SCSI bus..
As far as parts, where would we go if we needed replacements? Old junk units like the one being sold from a member who just listed in on eBay UK?
I will take a wild swing and assume the analog filters used on EMU are Curtis and not some other proprietary....also....
the EEPROMS...how do you know if they have gone bad? and if you are skilled enough to determine one indeed went, and you need the EEPROMS replaced you will have to find someone with the ability to 'blow ' a new one using the original code off the bad one if it isn't already fried and lost its 1's and 0's. That being said someone needs to figure out a way to find replacement blank EEPROMS then blow the code on them so we have backups for the future....It would certainly help.....
As far as the mobo, its find an old one, right? Aside from the obviouls 'burn through' you will get with some, not all trace burns are obvious... and if you do find the bad trace you better be a damned good soldering man who can work PCB's -this is where the original schematics would come in handy...which I am sure are readily available...needless to say, all time consuming and by the time you ared done, makes you an bona fide EMU repair guy....get good at this and you would have a nice side business stocking up old emu EEPROMS/parts/filters/mobos etc.....the thing is, with the EEPROMS you just gotta get the burner for it and learn how to burn em right?
As far as the FDD..they are extremely hard to find /rare in the tooth...and good luck finding a replacement FDD if it goes bad. especially the bigger EMU units...you actually need to find someone that can (or is willing to) repair and recalibrate the 5-1/4 inch FDD on most of the EMU units. If I am not mistaken there is a special proprietary boot sector read/write schema that EMU used for their FDD's, correct?. Any new unit must be calibrated to the same if it is not an NOS FDD, correct?
Feel free to chime in
Cheers and happy music making with your Emulator II!

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Re: [emax] EMU Parts Jammie or Ted?

2013-12-03 by jammie

any make with jumpers for dso and rdy signal will do
theres loads on the bay do your checking
thats what i have to do
ask questions from the sellers get good pictures that show jumpers
as all epr and route66 do is the same they buy a genric one with jumpers and then sell it with a mark up of an extra $40-50 on top of a $10-20 dollar item
slim floppy and slim floppy adapter is the cheapest at £27 max for both items and moded
;
thats if fitting internal cf drives
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [emax] EMU Parts Jammie or Ted?

ok then, what 'jumpers' are you referring to (Ie where on the drive is the J pin located) and what make and model should I buy?
cheers

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:15 AM, jammie <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

for what it costs to get repaired you can buy a new one
but you can get them much cheaper than those you just need one with jumpers
but you will never get the large format ones
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [emax] EMU Parts Jammie or Ted?

What about the original
EMU Stock FDD?
Is it 'repairable' or not?
Why that particular one...why not just repair the old drive?
As far as the above..
Thing is, its not even NOS?
and what has he done to that drive
that makes it any more 'special'
or usable than any other 'off the shelf' 20 dollar FDD one can buy on eBay?
I'd say 129 for an FDD that isn't even NOS is a bit steep, wouldn't you say?


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:42 AM, jammie <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

no filters are ssm actually designed by emu ssm was there chip company
cutis was made by doug curtis now onchip since he died and they still make a few of the cuurtis chips
the dual vca is still produced and a resonant vc 4pole filter is still made for dave smith
the octal sample and holds are still made but with better slew rate like the analog devices sm08 and sm16
most of the other parts are logic devices and you can buy new equivelents that perform the same but use less current
most chips are still available as nos chips
the echip is the only chip that is hard to get
the emax 2 does not have analog filters but uses a special dsp asic chip for the filters known as the g chip then in later models like the EIIIX the h chip was used and they used 2 of them to create the zplane filters first saw in the morpheous then the e4 range of samplers and the later emu modules
you know if an eprom has gone bad by reading it on a reader burner as it will let you know if there are any bad sectors
most of the time its a bad cap or resistor dragging pins down to ground or leaving a open circuit in the case of bad resistor
same if a signal diode goes
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 4:28 PM
Subject: [emax] EMU Parts Jammie or Ted?

Is it my imagination or are internal EMU parts getting extremely hard to come by?
Mine went on the bllink over something simple yesterday and I was shopping
local techs who mostly said they couldn't or wouldn't do the work.
Luckily for me, Ted was kind enough to take a look at mine when it stopped reading from the SCSI bus..
As far as parts, where would we go if we needed replacements? Old junk units like the one being sold from a member who just listed in on eBay UK?
I will take a wild swing and assume the analog filters used on EMU are Curtis and not some other proprietary....also....
the EEPROMS...how do you know if they have gone bad? and if you are skilled enough to determine one indeed went, and you need the EEPROMS replaced you will have to find someone with the ability to 'blow ' a new one using the original code off the bad one if it isn't already fried and lost its 1's and 0's. That being said someone needs to figure out a way to find replacement blank EEPROMS then blow the code on them so we have backups for the future....It would certainly help.....
As far as the mobo, its find an old one, right? Aside from the obviouls 'burn through' you will get with some, not all trace burns are obvious... and if you do find the bad trace you better be a damned good soldering man who can work PCB's -this is where the original schematics would come in handy...which I am sure are readily available...needless to say, all time consuming and by the time you ared done, makes you an bona fide EMU repair guy....get good at this and you would have a nice side business stocking up old emu EEPROMS/parts/filters/mobos etc.....the thing is, with the EEPROMS you just gotta get the burner for it and learn how to burn em right?
As far as the FDD..they are extremely hard to find /rare in the tooth...and good luck finding a replacement FDD if it goes bad. especially the bigger EMU units...you actually need to find someone that can (or is willing to) repair and recalibrate the 5-1/4 inch FDD on most of the EMU units. If I am not mistaken there is a special proprietary boot sector read/write schema that EMU used for their FDD's, correct?. Any new unit must be calibrated to the same if it is not an NOS FDD, correct?
Feel free to chime in
Cheers and happy music making with your Emulator II!

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Re: [emax] EMU Parts Jammie or Ted?

2013-12-03 by Windrum Scoggin

Jammie,
with a picture of an FDD with the
jumpers set the way you
described?
If so I can make this work
once ted fixes my SCSI issue
and replace with another FDD


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On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:24 AM, jammie <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

any make with jumpers for dso and rdy signal will do
theres loads on the bay do your checking
thats what i have to do
ask questions from the sellers get good pictures that show jumpers
as all epr and route66 do is the same they buy a genric one with jumpers and then sell it with a mark up of an extra $40-50 on top of a $10-20 dollar item
slim floppy and slim floppy adapter is the cheapest at £27 max for both items and moded
thats if fitting internal cf drives
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [emax] EMU Parts Jammie or Ted?

ok then, what 'jumpers' are you referring to (Ie where on the drive is the J pin located) and what make and model should I buy?
cheers

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:15 AM, jammie <jammie.emma@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

for what it costs to get repaired you can buy a new one
but you can get them much cheaper than those you just need one with jumpers
but you will never get the large format ones
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [emax] EMU Parts Jammie or Ted?

What about the original
EMU Stock FDD?
Is it 'repairable' or not?
Why that particular one...why not just repair the old drive?
As far as the above..
Thing is, its not even NOS?
and what has he done to that drive
that makes it any more 'special'
or usable than any other 'off the shelf' 20 dollar FDD one can buy on eBay?
I'd say 129 for an FDD that isn't even NOS is a bit steep, wouldn't you say?


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:42 AM, jammie <jammie.emma@...> wrote:

no filters are ssm actually designed by emu ssm was there chip company
cutis was made by doug curtis now onchip since he died and they still make a few of the cuurtis chips
the dual vca is still produced and a resonant vc 4pole filter is still made for dave smith
the octal sample and holds are still made but with better slew rate like the analog devices sm08 and sm16
most of the other parts are logic devices and you can buy new equivelents that perform the same but use less current
most chips are still available as nos chips
the echip is the only chip that is hard to get
the emax 2 does not have analog filters but uses a special dsp asic chip for the filters known as the g chip then in later models like the EIIIX the h chip was used and they used 2 of them to create the zplane filters first saw in the morpheous then the e4 range of samplers and the later emu modules
you know if an eprom has gone bad by reading it on a reader burner as it will let you know if there are any bad sectors
most of the time its a bad cap or resistor dragging pins down to ground or leaving a open circuit in the case of bad resistor
same if a signal diode goes
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 4:28 PM
Subject: [emax] EMU Parts Jammie or Ted?

Is it my imagination or are internal EMU parts getting extremely hard to come by?
Mine went on the bllink over something simple yesterday and I was shopping
local techs who mostly said they couldn't or wouldn't do the work.
Luckily for me, Ted was kind enough to take a look at mine when it stopped reading from the SCSI bus..
As far as parts, where would we go if we needed replacements? Old junk units like the one being sold from a member who just listed in on eBay UK?
I will take a wild swing and assume the analog filters used on EMU are Curtis and not some other proprietary....also....
the EEPROMS...how do you know if they have gone bad? and if you are skilled enough to determine one indeed went, and you need the EEPROMS replaced you will have to find someone with the ability to 'blow ' a new one using the original code off the bad one if it isn't already fried and lost its 1's and 0's. That being said someone needs to figure out a way to find replacement blank EEPROMS then blow the code on them so we have backups for the future....It would certainly help.....
As far as the mobo, its find an old one, right? Aside from the obviouls 'burn through' you will get with some, not all trace burns are obvious... and if you do find the bad trace you better be a damned good soldering man who can work PCB's -this is where the original schematics would come in handy...which I am sure are readily available...needless to say, all time consuming and by the time you ared done, makes you an bona fide EMU repair guy....get good at this and you would have a nice side business stocking up old emu EEPROMS/parts/filters/mobos etc.....the thing is, with the EEPROMS you just gotta get the burner for it and learn how to burn em right?
As far as the FDD..they are extremely hard to find /rare in the tooth...and good luck finding a replacement FDD if it goes bad. especially the bigger EMU units...you actually need to find someone that can (or is willing to) repair and recalibrate the 5-1/4 inch FDD on most of the EMU units. If I am not mistaken there is a special proprietary boot sector read/write schema that EMU used for their FDD's, correct?. Any new unit must be calibrated to the same if it is not an NOS FDD, correct?
Feel free to chime in
Cheers and happy music making with your Emulator II!

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Re: [emax] EMU Parts Jammie or Ted?

2013-12-03 by Ted Summers

we have the original binaries for the EMAX 1 EPROM and that can be burned by anyone with a $25 Willem programmer.
I don't expect that "data" to get lost.
new eproms (blank) are like $6-7 for a single from electronics supply houses.
So that isn't really any issue.
I have sold them separately, but have only had 1 or 2 queries in many years.
Them going bad isn't that common, and anyone buying a SCSI kit is getting a new one, anyways...

As to the floppy- 3-1/2 I always say convert and go slim floppy - easy to get drives for as low as $15 NEW.
Once you have made the converter / adapter- that's it.

As to 5 1/4 I can't comment- I don't have an Emulator to give any input on it.

-Ted
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On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:28 AM, <windrumscoggin@...> wrote:

Is it my imagination or are internal EMU parts getting extremely hard to come by?
Mine went on the bllink over something simple yesterday and I was shopping
local techs who mostly said they couldn't or wouldn't do the work.
Luckily for me, Ted was kind enough to take a look at mine when it stopped reading from the SCSI bus..
As far as parts, where would we go if we needed replacements? Old junk units like the one being sold from a member who just listed in on eBay UK?
I will take a wild swing and assume the analog filters used on EMU are Curtis and not some other proprietary....also....
the EEPROMS...how do you know if they have gone bad? and if you are skilled enough to determine one indeed went, and you need the EEPROMS replaced you will have to find someone with the ability to 'blow ' a new one using the original code off the bad one if it isn't already fried and lost its 1's and 0's. That being said someone needs to figure out a way to find replacement blank EEPROMS then blow the code on them so we have backups for the future....It would certainly help.....
As far as the mobo, its find an old one, right? Aside from the obviouls 'burn through' you will get with some, not all trace burns are obvious... and if you do find the bad trace you better be a damned good soldering man who can work PCB's -this is where the original schematics would come in handy...which I am sure are readily available...needless to say, all time consuming and by the time you ared done, makes you an bona fide EMU repair guy....get good at this and you would have a nice side business stocking up old emu EEPROMS/parts/filters/mobos etc.....the thing is, with the EEPROMS you just gotta get the burner for it and learn how to burn em right?
As far as the FDD..they are extremely hard to find /rare in the tooth...and good luck finding a replacement FDD if it goes bad. especially the bigger EMU units...you actually need to find someone that can (or is willing to) repair and recalibrate the 5-1/4 inch FDD on most of the EMU units. If I am not mistaken there is a special proprietary boot sector read/write schema that EMU used for their FDD's, correct?. Any new unit must be calibrated to the same if it is not an NOS FDD, correct?
Feel free to chime in
Cheers and happy music making with your Emulator II!


Re: [emax] EMU Parts Jammie or Ted?

2013-12-03 by Daniel Baum

The Emulator II 5 1/4" drives are indeed difficult to find. However, from reading the relevant mailing lists and forums it seems to me that the majority of Emulator I and II users (including me) are replacing the 5 1/4" floppy drives with HxC floppy emulators. It makes the EII much more pleasant to use - I personally see no advantage to using "authentic" but extremely clunky 5 1/4" floppies.


D.



On Dec 3, 2013, at 8:34 PM, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:


we have the original binaries for the EMAX 1 EPROM and that can be burned by anyone with a $25 Willem programmer.
I don't expect that "data" to get lost.
new eproms (blank) are like $6-7 for a single from electronics supply houses.
So that isn't really any issue.
I have sold them separately, but have only had 1 or 2 queries in many years.
Them going bad isn't that common, and anyone buying a SCSI kit is getting a new one, anyways...

As to the floppy- 3-1/2 I always say convert and go slim floppy - easy to get drives for as low as $15 NEW.
Once you have made the converter / adapter- that's it.

As to 5 1/4 I can't comment- I don't have an Emulator to give any input on it.

-Ted


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:28 AM, <windrumscoggin@gmail.com> wrote:

Is it my imagination or are internal EMU parts getting extremely hard to come by?
Mine went on the bllink over something simple yesterday and I was shopping
local techs who mostly said they couldn't or wouldn't do the work.
Luckily for me, Ted was kind enough to take a look at mine when it stopped reading from the SCSI bus..
As far as parts, where would we go if we needed replacements? Old junk units like the one being sold from a member who just listed in on eBay UK?
I will take a wild swing and assume the analog filters used on EMU are Curtis and not some other proprietary....also....
the EEPROMS...how do you know if they have gone bad? and if you are skilled enough to determine one indeed went, and you need the EEPROMS replaced you will have to find someone with the ability to 'blow ' a new one using the original code off the bad one if it isn't already fried and lost its 1's and 0's. That being said someone needs to figure out a way to find replacement blank EEPROMS then blow the code on them so we have backups for the future....It would certainly help.....
As far as the mobo, its find an old one, right? Aside from the obviouls 'burn through' you will get with some, not all trace burns are obvious... and if you do find the bad trace you better be a damned good soldering man who can work PCB's -this is where the original schematics would come in handy...which I am sure are readily available...needless to say, all time consuming and by the time you ared done, makes you an bona fide EMU repair guy....get good at this and you would have a nice side business stocking up old emu EEPROMS/parts/filters/mobos etc.....the thing is, with the EEPROMS you just gotta get the burner for it and learn how to burn em right?
As far as the FDD..they are extremely hard to find /rare in the tooth...and good luck finding a replacement FDD if it goes bad. especially the bigger EMU units...you actually need to find someone that can (or is willing to) repair and recalibrate the 5-1/4 inch FDD on most of the EMU units. If I am not mistaken there is a special proprietary boot sector read/write schema that EMU used for their FDD's, correct?. Any new unit must be calibrated to the same if it is not an NOS FDD, correct?
Feel free to chime in
Cheers and happy music making with your Emulator II!




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