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Emax 1 upgrade

2000-09-10 by Joel ELISE

Hello John,

I'd like to upgrade my Emaw 1 with a hard drive. Do you have any info to do
this ?

Thanks.
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Re: [emax] Emax 1 upgrade

2000-09-10 by Henrik Nydell

You can find some info at www.emuarc.com
Basically, if your Emax is equipped with SCSI you should be able
to install a HD without too much trouble. If not, youre in a much tougher
situation.

Cheers
/Henrik
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>Hello John,
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>I'd like to upgrade my Emaw 1 with a hard drive. Do you have any info to do
>this ?
>
>Thanks.
>--
>Joel
>
>*************************************
>Joel Elisee Multimedia pour JESUS
>35, rue LORSOLD
>97233 SCHOELCHER
>MARTINIQUE F.W.I.
>e-mail : mailto:jemjesus@...
>alt e-mail : mailto:jemjesus@...
>web : http://www.chez.com/jemjesus
>ICQ # : 17405316
>*************************************
>
>JEM JESUS ... ET TOI ?
>
>I LOVE JESUS ... WHAT ABOUT YOU ?
>
>
>
>
>
>Emax and Emax II User's Group
>
>http://www.silveriafamily.com
>

Re: [emax] Emax 1 upgrade

2000-09-10 by John Joseph Silveria II

> I'd like to upgrade my Emaw 1 with a hard drive. Do you have any info to
> do this ?

Unfortunately there is no way of doing this. Like the memory upgrade 
for the Emax II the parts were mostly custom designed by E-mu and 
long out of stock. 



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Re: [emax] Emax 1 upgrade

2000-09-10 by John Joseph Silveria II

> You can find some info at www.emuarc.com
> Basically, if your Emax is equipped with SCSI you should be able
> to install a HD without too much trouble. If not, youre in a much tougher
> situation.

This is if the Emax already had an HD in it. Some people make the 
mistake that their Emax already has SCSI because the floppy drive is 
connected to an old mac SCSI floppy controller card with 2 ports, 
unfortunately that is not the controller used for the HD models, that 
card has to be swapped and, if memory serves me, you have to 
replace some drams as well.



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Re: [emax] Emax 1 upgrade

2000-09-11 by Henrik Nydell

Yes, but one of my Emax SE's i've owned, had a SCSI port retrofitted
on the rear panel, and this was a non-HD Emax.
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>This is if the Emax already had an HD in it. Some people make the 
>mistake that their Emax already has SCSI because the floppy drive is 
>connected to an old mac SCSI floppy controller card with 2 ports, 
>unfortunately that is not the controller used for the HD models, that 
>card has to be swapped and, if memory serves me, you have to 
>replace some drams as well.

Re: [emax] Emax 1 upgrade

2000-09-11 by jh

>
>Yes, but one of my Emax SE's i've owned, had a SCSI port retrofitted
>on the rear panel, and this was a non-HD Emax.
>
>>This is if the Emax already had an HD in it. Some people make the
>>mistake that their Emax already has SCSI because the floppy drive is
>>connected to an old mac SCSI floppy controller card with 2 ports,
>>unfortunately that is not the controller used for the HD models, that
>>card has to be swapped and, if memory serves me, you have to
>>replace some drams as well.
>
>
>
>Emax and Emax II User's Group
>
>http://www.silveriafamily.com

go to http://www.synrise.de/guests/cwernke/

Re: [emax] Emax 1 upgrade

2000-09-11 by John Joseph Silveria II

> Yes, but one of my Emax SE's i've owned, had a SCSI port retrofitted
> on the rear panel, and this was a non-HD Emax.

Ahhh that would be the fabled Blue SCSI port found on the late model 
Emax SE. If memory serves me correctly I read that these were the 
last of the Emax series built either right before the Emax II went in to 
production. They have a blue SCSI port in the back and an internal 
SCSI port neither of which shipped operational. It was a sign of things 
to come. I think E-mu origianl though of launching a Super Emax, 
which eventually became the Emax II. Basically what they are is a 12 
bit early model Emax II. If you remember your Emax history the first 
Emax II model to go to market was actually nothing more than a 16 bit 
Emax SE. That's to say they were Mono and only had 512k of memory 
exactly like the Emax SE, soon after they offered the stereo upgrade 
and memory upgrades and HD upgrades. I believe I discuss this in my 
Emax II FAQ. 

Those are very rare so I don't even think of those when I discuss the 
Emax. Glad we got that all cleared up.



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Re: [emax] Emax 1 upgrade

2000-09-11 by Henrik Nydell

>Ahhh that would be the fabled Blue SCSI port found on the late model 
>Emax SE. If memory serves me correctly I read that these were the 
>last of the Emax series built either right before the Emax II went in to 
>production. They have a blue SCSI port in the back and an internal 
>SCSI port neither of which shipped operational. It was a sign of things 
>to come. I think E-mu origianl though of launching a Super Emax, 
>which eventually became the Emax II. Basically what they are is a 12 
>bit early model Emax II. If you remember your Emax history the first 
>Emax II model to go to market was actually nothing more than a 16 bit 
>Emax SE. That's to say they were Mono and only had 512k of memory 
>exactly like the Emax SE, soon after they offered the stereo upgrade 
>and memory upgrades and HD upgrades. I believe I discuss this in my 
>Emax II FAQ. 
>
>Those are very rare so I don't even think of those when I discuss the 
>Emax. Glad we got that all cleared up.

Ooops, too bad I sold it then. I actually had two Emaxes at one time, one
old with the SE upgrade, and one much newer, with the "Blue SCSI" port.
(Don't remember if it really was blue..)  But the Emax2 I bought instead
has a lot 
more memory though.

Cheers
/Henrik

Re: [emax] Emax 1 upgrade

2000-09-11 by Scott Ruda

on 9/11/00 12:32 PM, Henrik Nydell at nyd@... wrote:

>> Ahhh that would be the fabled Blue SCSI port found on the late model
>> Emax SE. If memory serves me correctly I read that these were the
>> last of the Emax series built either right before the Emax II went in to
>> production. They have a blue SCSI port in the back and an internal
>> SCSI port neither of which shipped operational.

FYI, the SCSI on an Emax is fully functional (within the scope of SCSI circa
1987).

A little history (trying to remember off the top of my head without looking
back into the documentation...).

Early Emax's had an empty socket for a SCSI chip on the main board, but the
first machines shipped before the SCSI software had been completed and
therefore the hardware was not fully tested. While E-mu worked to develop
the SCSI software, problems were discovered with the design of the main
board. It had to be revised to support SCSI, which was then integrated into
the Rev 2 boards. Early boards (Rev 1) _could_ be rev'd to do SCSI, but if I
remember right, it was approximately 13 cuts and jumps to the board! Not as
easy as dropping in a SCSI chip as had originally been hoped. E-mu offered
SCSI upgrades to all Emax customers, whether they had Rev 1 or Rev 2 boards,
all for the same cost. Some units were cut and jumped, others were swapped
with Rev 2 boards. It was considered 'the right thing' to do for early
adopters. 

Any machines that have the SCSI upgrade can support an internal as well as
external drives. The blue 25 pin connector on the back was obviously to
support external SCSI devices. I'm not sure all units had it. But but if the
unit supports internal SCSI, it supports external SCSI - it just needs the
connector added (and a whole cut into the back of the chassis).

Scott

Re: [emax] Emax 1 upgrade

2000-09-11 by John Joseph Silveria II

Thanks Scott and welcome aboard! 

Before anything happens like it has on the Emusaic list please keep in 
mind that Scott is representing himself and not E-mu and do not use 
this list in hopes of getting Customer Support. It's not fair to Scott.

By the way Scott, I'd like to add the information in your email on the 
Emax and Emax II User's Group Website. Another update is getting 
necessary and I plan on covering all the SCSI, Memory and Sample 
transfer questions I get daily by email.





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