Emax

Hi everyone....
I'm new to the group and just got an Emax II.......
The first few times I powered it up, everything was fine.  It checked
floppy and hard 
drive and then was ready to go.......I was able to select banks from
the hard drive.  
This time I powered-up and it goes from "checking floppy" to "loading
software" to 
"disk is not formatted" and blinks back and forth between "loading
software" and 
"disk is not formatted".
It didn't have a disk in it when I got it, and the first few times it
booted up fine.......(I 
assume from the hard drive) and then suddenly started trying to
boot-up from the 
floppy (which I don't have) and will go no further.
Can any of you experienced folks tell me what I've got here?
I don't get why it stopped blowing past the floppy check and booting
up from the 
hard drive and started doing this.
I'm afraid I got stuck with a faulty unit, and it's hard to believe
because this thing is 
in museum condition and was rarely used.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Dave

Hello
It looks like you need a emax-2 operating system ,on a floppydisk
(or did you already boot from floppy?)
my unit also displays some weird messages,when i power on,:
it says then,disk not formatted,please insert disk,disk not formatted.
...
but when i insert a emax2 OS disk everything is oke
(So i dont think your Emax is THAT faulthy)
You will need a:Emax-2 2.14 OS on a DS/DD disk
If you live in the netherlands ,i will send you a disk.
(or..where do you live?)
Ron

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "dave dehart" <deharts@p...> wrote:

> 
> Hi everyone....
> I'm new to the group and just got an Emax II.......
> The first few times I powered it up, everything was fine.  It 
checked
> floppy and hard 
> drive and then was ready to go.......I was able to select banks from
> the hard drive.  
> This time I powered-up and it goes from "checking floppy" to 
"loading
> software" to 
> "disk is not formatted" and blinks back and forth between "loading
> software" and 
> "disk is not formatted".
> It didn't have a disk in it when I got it, and the first few times 
it

> booted up fine.......(I 
> assume from the hard drive) and then suddenly started trying to
> boot-up from the 
> floppy (which I don't have) and will go no further.
> Can any of you experienced folks tell me what I've got here?
> I don't get why it stopped blowing past the floppy check and booting
> up from the 
> hard drive and started doing this.
> I'm afraid I got stuck with a faulty unit, and it's hard to believe
> because this thing is 
> in museum condition and was rarely used.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Dave

Ron,
Thank you for the info.  I suspected that if I had a
disk I could get past the boot-up problem.  The
strange thing is that it used to blow past the floppy
check and go to the hard drive to boot-up.  The
previous owner must have saved that choice into the
memory because it always booted without any floppy.
I'm wondering if the battery is getting weak and it
forgot the command to boot from the internal hard
disk.....I appreciate your offer to get a disk to me,
but I live in the United States in
Wisconsin,,,,,,,,,,,I don't know yet what my options
are to get a boot-up disk, but that's what's going to
bail me out.  
Thanks again,
Dave


---------------------------------

Hello
It looks like you need a emax-2 operating system ,on a
floppydisk
(or did you already boot from floppy?)
my unit also displays some weird messages,when i power
on,:
it says then,disk not formatted,please insert
disk,disk not formatted.
...
but when i insert a emax2 OS disk everything is oke
(So i dont think your Emax is THAT faulthy)
You will need a:Emax-2 2.14 OS on a DS/DD disk
If you live in the netherlands ,i will send you a
disk.
(or..where do you live?)
Ron

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "dave dehart"
<deharts@p...> wrote:

> 
> Hi everyone....
> I'm new to the group and just got an Emax II.......
> The first few times I powered it up, everything was
fine.  It 
checked
> floppy and hard 
> drive and then was ready to go.......I was able to
select banks from
> the hard drive.  
> This time I powered-up and it goes from "checking
floppy" to 
"loading
> software" to 
> "disk is not formatted" and blinks back and forth
between "loading
> software" and 
> "disk is not formatted".
> It didn't have a disk in it when I got it, and the
first few times 
it
> booted up fine.......(I 
> assume from the hard drive) and then suddenly
started trying to
> boot-up from the 
> floppy (which I don't have) and will go no further.
> Can any of you experienced folks tell me what I've
got here?
> I don't get why it stopped blowing past the floppy
check and booting
> up from the 
> hard drive and started doing this.
> I'm afraid I got stuck with a faulty unit, and it's
hard to believe
> because this thing is 
> in museum condition and was rarely used.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Dave





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As I recall, Emax works like a PC in that it will boot from floppy if a
disk is inserted, if it doesn't find one it boots from the hard drive. If
you were able to boot previously from the hard drive and now you can't,
then I would look first for a problem with the hard drive. It could
something as simple as the SCSI cable or molex power cable unseating
itself slightly, which it could easily have done during transit. You'll
only need a formatted floppy to boot from if the hard drive has died or
become corrupt.

If you get the hard drive working again, you can create an OS floppy
simply by formatting it in the Emax. You may need an old style DD disk as
opposed to the modern HD format, mind. I think there are tricks to make HD
disks work but I don't know how reliable that is.

Good luck.

> Ron,
> Thank you for the info.  I suspected that if I had a
> disk I could get past the boot-up problem.  The
> strange thing is that it used to blow past the floppy
> check and go to the hard drive to boot-up.  The
> previous owner must have saved that choice into the
> memory because it always booted without any floppy.
> I'm wondering if the battery is getting weak and it
> forgot the command to boot from the internal hard
> disk.....I appreciate your offer to get a disk to me,
> but I live in the United States in
> Wisconsin,,,,,,,,,,,I don't know yet what my options
> are to get a boot-up disk, but that's what's going to
> bail me out.
> Thanks again,
> Dave
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
> Hello
> It looks like you need a emax-2 operating system ,on a
> floppydisk
> (or did you already boot from floppy?)
> my unit also displays some weird messages,when i power
> on,:
> it says then,disk not formatted,please insert
> disk,disk not formatted.
> ...
> but when i insert a emax2 OS disk everything is oke
> (So i dont think your Emax is THAT faulthy)
> You will need a:Emax-2 2.14 OS on a DS/DD disk
> If you live in the netherlands ,i will send you a
> disk.
> (or..where do you live?)
> Ron
>

Ron,
Thank you for the info.  I suspected that if I had a
disk I could get past the boot-up problem.  The
strange thing is that it used to blow past the floppy
check and go to the hard drive to boot-up.  The
previous owner must have saved that choice into the
memory because it always booted without any floppy.
I'm wondering if the battery is getting weak and it
forgot the command to boot from the internal hard
disk.....I appreciate your offer to get a disk to me,
but I live in the United States in
Wisconsin,,,,,,,,,,,I don't know yet what my options
are to get a boot-up disk, but that's what's going to
bail me out.  
Thanks again,
Dave


---------------------------------

Hello
It looks like you need a emax-2 operating system ,on a
floppydisk
(or did you already boot from floppy?)
my unit also displays some weird messages,when i power
on,:
it says then,disk not formatted,please insert
disk,disk not formatted.
...
but when i insert a emax2 OS disk everything is oke
(So i dont think your Emax is THAT faulthy)
You will need a:Emax-2 2.14 OS on a DS/DD disk
If you live in the netherlands ,i will send you a
disk.
(or..where do you live?)
Ron

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "dave dehart"
<deharts@p...> wrote:

> 
> Hi everyone....
> I'm new to the group and just got an Emax II.......
> The first few times I powered it up, everything was
fine.  It 
checked
> floppy and hard 
> drive and then was ready to go.......I was able to
select banks from
> the hard drive.  
> This time I powered-up and it goes from "checking
floppy" to 
"loading
> software" to 
> "disk is not formatted" and blinks back and forth
between "loading
> software" and 
> "disk is not formatted".
> It didn't have a disk in it when I got it, and the
first few times 
it
> booted up fine.......(I 
> assume from the hard drive) and then suddenly
started trying to
> boot-up from the 
> floppy (which I don't have) and will go no further.
> Can any of you experienced folks tell me what I've
got here?
> I don't get why it stopped blowing past the floppy
check and booting
> up from the 
> hard drive and started doing this.
> I'm afraid I got stuck with a faulty unit, and it's
hard to believe
> because this thing is 
> in museum condition and was rarely used.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Dave





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Many thanks to Steve and John for the helpful
input........it's a great group. 
Steve.....I'm considering opening it up to see if it
might be a connection problem.
I will still welcome any more suggestions and will
post when I find my way out of this glitch.
Thanks again,
Dave Dehart


---------------------------------
As I recall, Emax works like a PC in that it will boot
from floppy if a
disk is inserted, if it doesn't find one it boots from
the hard drive. If
you were able to boot previously from the hard drive
and now you can't,
then I would look first for a problem with the hard
drive. It could
something as simple as the SCSI cable or molex power
cable unseating
itself slightly, which it could easily have done
during transit. You'll
only need a formatted floppy to boot from if the hard
drive has died or
become corrupt.

If you get the hard drive working again, you can
create an OS floppy
simply by formatting it in the Emax. You may need an
old style DD disk as
opposed to the modern HD format, mind. I think there
are tricks to make HD
disks work but I don't know how reliable that is.

Good luck.


> Ron,
> Thank you for the info.  I suspected that if I had a
> disk I could get past the boot-up problem.  The
> strange thing is that it used to blow past the
floppy
> check and go to the hard drive to boot-up.  The
> previous owner must have saved that choice into the
> memory because it always booted without any floppy.
> I'm wondering if the battery is getting weak and it
> forgot the command to boot from the internal hard
> disk.....I appreciate your offer to get a disk to
me,
> but I live in the United States in
> Wisconsin,,,,,,,,,,,I don't know yet what my options
> are to get a boot-up disk, but that's what's going
to
> bail me out.
> Thanks again,
> Dave
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
> Hello
> It looks like you need a emax-2 operating system ,on
a
> floppydisk
> (or did you already boot from floppy?)
> my unit also displays some weird messages,when i
power
> on,:
> it says then,disk not formatted,please insert
> disk,disk not formatted.
> ...
> but when i insert a emax2 OS disk everything is oke
> (So i dont think your Emax is THAT faulthy)
> You will need a:Emax-2 2.14 OS on a DS/DD disk
> If you live in the netherlands ,i will send you a
> disk.
> (or..where do you live?)
> Ron
>



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Dave..I live in NY and can get a disk to..let me know..John

JUDITH DEHART <deharts@...> wrote:Ron,
Thank you for the info.  I suspected that if I had a
disk I could get past the boot-up problem.  The
strange thing is that it used to blow past the floppy
check and go to the hard drive to boot-up.  The
previous owner must have saved that choice into the
memory because it always booted without any floppy.
I'm wondering if the battery is getting weak and it
forgot the command to boot from the internal hard
disk.....I appreciate your offer to get a disk to me,
but I live in the United States in
Wisconsin,,,,,,,,,,,I don't know yet what my options
are to get a boot-up disk, but that's what's going to
bail me out.  
Thanks again,
Dave


---------------------------------

Hello
It looks like you need a emax-2 operating system ,on a
floppydisk
(or did you already boot from floppy?)
my unit also displays some weird messages,when i power
on,:
it says then,disk not formatted,please insert
disk,disk not formatted.
...
but when i insert a emax2 OS disk everything is oke
(So i dont think your Emax is THAT faulthy)
You will need a:Emax-2 2.14 OS on a DS/DD disk
If you live in the netherlands ,i will send you a
disk.
(or..where do you live?)
Ron

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "dave dehart"
<deharts@p...> wrote:

> 
> Hi everyone....
> I'm new to the group and just got an Emax II.......
> The first few times I powered it up, everything was
fine.  It 
checked
> floppy and hard 
> drive and then was ready to go.......I was able to
select banks from
> the hard drive.  
> This time I powered-up and it goes from "checking
floppy" to 
"loading
> software" to 
> "disk is not formatted" and blinks back and forth
between "loading
> software" and 
> "disk is not formatted".
> It didn't have a disk in it when I got it, and the
first few times 
it
> booted up fine.......(I 
> assume from the hard drive) and then suddenly
started trying to
> boot-up from the 
> floppy (which I don't have) and will go no further.
> Can any of you experienced folks tell me what I've
got here?
> I don't get why it stopped blowing past the floppy
check and booting
> up from the 
> hard drive and started doing this.
> I'm afraid I got stuck with a faulty unit, and it's
hard to believe
> because this thing is 
> in museum condition and was rarely used.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Dave





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John,
Many thanks for the offer of help.  I might pull it
apart tomorrow and check for loose connections as
Steve suggested, and I'll be in touch.
Thanks again,
Dave


---------------------------------
Dave..I live in NY and can get a disk to..let me
know..John

JUDITH DEHART <deharts@...> wrote:Ron,
Thank you for the info.  I suspected that if I had a
disk I could get past the boot-up problem.  The
strange thing is that it used to blow past the floppy
check and go to the hard drive to boot-up.  The
previous owner must have saved that choice into the
memory because it always booted without any floppy.
I'm wondering if the battery is getting weak and it
forgot the command to boot from the internal hard
disk.....I appreciate your offer to get a disk to me,
but I live in the United States in
Wisconsin,,,,,,,,,,,I don't know yet what my options
are to get a boot-up disk, but that's what's going to
bail me out.  
Thanks again,
Dave


---------------------------------

Hello
It looks like you need a emax-2 operating system ,on a
floppydisk
(or did you already boot from floppy?)
my unit also displays some weird messages,when i power
on,:
it says then,disk not formatted,please insert
disk,disk not formatted.
...
but when i insert a emax2 OS disk everything is oke
(So i dont think your Emax is THAT faulthy)
You will need a:Emax-2 2.14 OS on a DS/DD disk
If you live in the netherlands ,i will send you a
disk.
(or..where do you live?)
Ron

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "dave dehart"
<deharts@p...> wrote:

> 
> Hi everyone....
> I'm new to the group and just got an Emax II.......
> The first few times I powered it up, everything was
fine.  It 
checked
> floppy and hard 
> drive and then was ready to go.......I was able to
select banks from
> the hard drive.  
> This time I powered-up and it goes from "checking
floppy" to 
"loading
> software" to 
> "disk is not formatted" and blinks back and forth
between "loading
> software" and 
> "disk is not formatted".
> It didn't have a disk in it when I got it, and the
first few times 
it
> booted up fine.......(I 
> assume from the hard drive) and then suddenly
started trying to
> boot-up from the 
> floppy (which I don't have) and will go no further.
> Can any of you experienced folks tell me what I've
got here?
> I don't get why it stopped blowing past the floppy
check and booting
> up from the 
> hard drive and started doing this.
> I'm afraid I got stuck with a faulty unit, and it's
hard to believe
> because this thing is 
> in museum condition and was rarely used.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Dave





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John G.................
Many thanks for the offer for an os disk for my  Emax
II.  Please e mail me at deharts@prodigy .net so I can
send you a check to cover your expense and to give you
my mailing address.
Steve's line of reasoning seems solid, but I would
like to boot with a floppy first so I can get past
power-up to see how the hard drive is behaving before
opening it up.
Thanks for everyone's input.
Dave


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---------------------------------
Dave..I live in NY and can get a disk to..let me
know..John

JUDITH DEHART <deharts@...> wrote:Ron,
Thank you for the info.  I suspected that if I had a
disk I could get past the boot-up problem.  The
strange thing is that it used to blow past the floppy
check and go to the hard drive to boot-up.  The
previous owner must have saved that choice into the
memory because it always booted without any floppy.
I'm wondering if the battery is getting weak and it
forgot the command to boot from the internal hard
disk.....I appreciate your offer to get a disk to me,
but I live in the United States in
Wisconsin,,,,,,,,,,,I don't know yet what my options
are to get a boot-up disk, but that's what's going to
bail me out.  
Thanks again,
Dave


---------------------------------

Hello
It looks like you need a emax-2 operating system ,on a
floppydisk
(or did you already boot from floppy?)
my unit also displays some weird messages,when i power
on,:
it says then,disk not formatted,please insert
disk,disk not formatted.
...
but when i insert a emax2 OS disk everything is oke
(So i dont think your Emax is THAT faulthy)
You will need a:Emax-2 2.14 OS on a DS/DD disk
If you live in the netherlands ,i will send you a
disk.
(or..where do you live?)
Ron

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "dave dehart"
<deharts@p...> wrote:

> 
> Hi everyone....
> I'm new to the group and just got an Emax II.......
> The first few times I powered it up, everything was
fine.  It 
checked
> floppy and hard 
> drive and then was ready to go.......I was able to
select banks from
> the hard drive.  
> This time I powered-up and it goes from "checking
floppy" to 
"loading
> software" to 
> "disk is not formatted" and blinks back and forth
between "loading
> software" and 
> "disk is not formatted".
> It didn't have a disk in it when I got it, and the
first few times 
it
> booted up fine.......(I 
> assume from the hard drive) and then suddenly
started trying to
> boot-up from the 
> floppy (which I don't have) and will go no further.
> Can any of you experienced folks tell me what I've
got here?
> I don't get why it stopped blowing past the floppy
check and booting
> up from the 
> hard drive and started doing this.
> I'm afraid I got stuck with a faulty unit, and it's
hard to believe
> because this thing is 
> in museum condition and was rarely used.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Dave





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