Emax

Does anyone know if the Emax can recieve sample dump info from a PC via 
SDS or something similar?If so could you explain how it is done?
Thanks...

Sorry I forgot to say it is the Emax 1.





 --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "mrdazobee" <mrdazobee@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if the Emax can recieve sample dump info from a PC 
via 

> SDS or something similar?If so could you explain how it is done?
> Thanks...
>

I think I remember someone saying it works using the standard midi sds in Soundforge. In order to use the high speed serial port you'll need an old Mac and Alchemy or Sound Designer with a custom cable. 




--- On Fri, 10/31/08, mrdazobee <mrdazobee@...> wrote:

> From: mrdazobee <mrdazobee@...>
> Subject: [emax] Re: sample dump??
> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 11:49 AM
> Sorry I forgot to say it is the Emax 1.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "mrdazobee"
> <mrdazobee@...> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know if the Emax can recieve sample dump
> info from a PC 
> via 
> > SDS or something similar?If so could you explain how
> it is done?
> > Thanks...
> >

Emax - PC : MIDI in / out
don't remember exactly; but on the Emax. i think 'sys.excl' should be set 
to 'send & recieve'.


At 31-10-2008 16:48, you wrote:

>Does anyone know if the Emax can recieve sample dump info from a PC via
>SDS or something similar?If so could you explain how it is done?
>Thanks...


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The Emax can receive sample dumps via MIDI SDS according to the Emax OS v3.0 MIDI spec. 
However, note that the first and last sample of the data should be padded with zeros. The Emax 
also expects 12 bit linear samples, which it presumably converts into 8 bit compressed form to 
store in memory. I am not sure what it would do with 16 sample data. There are also some issues 
to do with handshaking, sampling rates, sample placement and loops etc. 

It looks like the fast sample dump via RS422 uses a slightly modified form of the SDS dump that 
allows more compact packing of the 12 bit samples and thus even faster transfer.

/Tristan

Friday, October 31, 2008, 11:48:28 PM, you wrote:

>
Does anyone know if the Emax can recieve sample dump info from a PC via 
SDS or something similar?If so could you explain how it is done?
Thanks...

Thanks for the replys.Could you explain further what "padded with 
zeros" means?I was going to use the "Awave" program that converts SDS 
to 12 bit so that should be fine.Have you achieved a sample dump via 
midi yourself?If so could you give some info on how you did it,or 
point me to where the process may be explained further?





--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, tu@... wrote:
>
> The Emax can receive sample dumps via MIDI SDS according to the 
Emax OS v3.0 MIDI spec. 
> However, note that the first and last sample of the data should be 
padded with zeros. The Emax 
> also expects 12 bit linear samples, which it presumably converts 
into 8 bit compressed form to 
> store in memory. I am not sure what it would do with 16 sample 
data. There are also some issues 
> to do with handshaking, sampling rates, sample placement and loops 
etc. 
> 
> It looks like the fast sample dump via RS422 uses a slightly 
modified form of the SDS dump that 
> allows more compact packing of the 12 bit samples and thus even 
faster transfer.
> 
> /Tristan
> 
> Friday, October 31, 2008, 11:48:28 PM, you wrote:
> 
> >
> Does anyone know if the Emax can recieve sample dump info from a PC 
via 

> SDS or something similar?If so could you explain how it is done?
> Thanks...
>

This is how far I have fallen behind the gear curve. I use my Emax SE HD 
(when I had it) and my Emax II (which I still use) exclusively with MIDI 
SDS through my old version Sound Forge (Sound Forge 2.xx I believe). The 
Emax does indeed work fine with SDS and I have a small guide on my site 
(and maybe in the Files section) that explains the Offset procedure that 
has to be used since the Emax II manual has incorrect assignments for 
SDS. Besides Sound Forge, and I think Recycle, I believe I have also 
used Awave and the old DOS program Samplitude with my Emax and Emax II

http://www.silveriafamily.com/emax/midisds.html

mrdazobee wrote:
> Does anyone know if the Emax can recieve sample dump info from a PC via 
> SDS or something similar?If so could you explain how it is done?
> Thanks... 
>   


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I noticed the tutorial on your site although I thought it only 
applied to the Emax II.Does the same proceedure apply to the Emax I?






--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, John Silveria II <john@...> wrote:
>
> This is how far I have fallen behind the gear curve. I use my Emax 
SE HD 
> (when I had it) and my Emax II (which I still use) exclusively with 
MIDI 
> SDS through my old version Sound Forge (Sound Forge 2.xx I 
believe). The 
> Emax does indeed work fine with SDS and I have a small guide on my 
site 
> (and maybe in the Files section) that explains the Offset procedure 
that 
> has to be used since the Emax II manual has incorrect assignments 
for 
> SDS. Besides Sound Forge, and I think Recycle, I believe I have 
also 
> used Awave and the old DOS program Samplitude with my Emax and Emax 
II
> 
> http://www.silveriafamily.com/emax/midisds.html
> 
> mrdazobee wrote:
> > Does anyone know if the Emax can recieve sample dump info from a 
PC via 

> > SDS or something similar?If so could you explain how it is done?
> > Thanks... 
> >   
> 
> 
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>                     http://www.silveriafamily.com
>

I haven't had my Emax SE HD for about 10 years, but I believe I wrote 
the guide knowing that it would work with both. I don;t believe the 
Offset is needed though.

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I have not actually used MIDI SDS to dump samples to an Emax, I was just reading from the V3.0 
MIDI specification on the Emulator archive. 

I believe the padding refers to adding a single extra sample before the first and after the last 
sample of each sound when dumping. According to the spec these extra samples should have the 
value of zero. I don't know why or if it is really required but that is what the spec says.

You can always try a dump and see. I believe the Emax can only be the target of SDS dumps or 
requests from external devices. SDS dumps cannot be initiated from the Emax front panel. 

/Tristan

Quoting mrdazobee <mrdazobee@...>:

> Thanks for the replys.Could you explain further what "padded with 
> zeros" means?I was going to use the "Awave" program that converts SDS
> 
> to 12 bit so that should be fine.Have you achieved a sample dump via
> 
> midi yourself?If so could you give some info on how you did it,or 
> point me to where the process may be explained further?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, tu@... wrote:
> >
> > The Emax can receive sample dumps via MIDI SDS according to the 
> Emax OS v3.0 MIDI spec. 
> > However, note that the first and last sample of the data should be
> 
> padded with zeros. The Emax 
> > also expects 12 bit linear samples, which it presumably converts 
> into 8 bit compressed form to 
> > store in memory. I am not sure what it would do with 16 sample 
> data. There are also some issues 
> > to do with handshaking, sampling rates, sample placement and loops
> 
> etc. 
> > 
> > It looks like the fast sample dump via RS422 uses a slightly 
> modified form of the SDS dump that 
> > allows more compact packing of the 12 bit samples and thus even 
> faster transfer.
> > 
> > /Tristan
> > 
> > Friday, October 31, 2008, 11:48:28 PM, you wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > Does anyone know if the Emax can recieve sample dump info from a PC
> 
> via 
> > SDS or something similar?If so could you explain how it is done?
> > Thanks...
> >
> 
> 
>

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "mrdazobee" <mrdazobee@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if the Emax can recieve sample dump info from a PC 
via 
> SDS or something similar?If so could you explain how it is done?
> Thanks...
>

SDS works...

but... why don't you take EMXP to transfer *wav-files into an Emax?
It's much faster than sample-dump!