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Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive

Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive

2009-03-02 by sanctifiedonesky

My Emax II won't boot up hardly anymore. It gives a message: Not an
Emax2 Floppy Drive.

I know it's supposed to read the Floppy Drive first but I don't know
if it's the drive, the drive's power supply, or the digital board.

Are there diagnostic codes that could tell me conclusively?

Thanks for any help!

Re: [emax] Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive

2009-03-02 by Rish

Well If the light on the drive lights and you can hear the drive spinup then you know the drive has power but the heads are shot and the drive needs replacing. We have them at www.Route66studios.com
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sanctifiedonesky 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:59 PM
  Subject: [emax] Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive


  My Emax II won't boot up hardly anymore. It gives a message: Not an
  Emax2 Floppy Drive.

  I know it's supposed to read the Floppy Drive first but I don't know
  if it's the drive, the drive's power supply, or the digital board.

  Are there diagnostic codes that could tell me conclusively?

  Thanks for any help!



  

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Re: Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive

2009-03-03 by sanctifiedonesky

Wow thanks for the reply! So even if it loads floppies (when the Emax
is working) the heads being "shot" will prevent it from booting
normally from it's HD? Just want to be clear that the reason it won't
turn on is the floppy. 



--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Rish" <rish@...> wrote:
>
> Well If the light on the drive lights and you can hear the drive
spinup then you know the drive has power but the heads are shot and
the drive needs replacing. We have them at www.Route66studios.com
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>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: sanctifiedonesky 
>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:59 PM
>   Subject: [emax] Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive
> 
> 
>   My Emax II won't boot up hardly anymore. It gives a message: Not an
>   Emax2 Floppy Drive.
> 
>   I know it's supposed to read the Floppy Drive first but I don't know
>   if it's the drive, the drive's power supply, or the digital board.
> 
>   Are there diagnostic codes that could tell me conclusively?
> 
>   Thanks for any help!
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: [emax] Re: Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive

2009-03-03 by Rish

No No....I was only talking about the floppy drive, do you have a HD issue as well? Guess I was thinking you were talking about the floppy drive only.
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sanctifiedonesky 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 7:09 PM
  Subject: [emax] Re: Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive


  Wow thanks for the reply! So even if it loads floppies (when the Emax
  is working) the heads being "shot" will prevent it from booting
  normally from it's HD? Just want to be clear that the reason it won't
  turn on is the floppy. 

  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Rish" <rish@...> wrote:
  >
  > Well If the light on the drive lights and you can hear the drive
  spinup then you know the drive has power but the heads are shot and
  the drive needs replacing. We have them at www.Route66studios.com
  > R
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: sanctifiedonesky 
  > To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:59 PM
  > Subject: [emax] Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive
  > 
  > 
  > My Emax II won't boot up hardly anymore. It gives a message: Not an
  > Emax2 Floppy Drive.
  > 
  > I know it's supposed to read the Floppy Drive first but I don't know
  > if it's the drive, the drive's power supply, or the digital board.
  > 
  > Are there diagnostic codes that could tell me conclusively?
  > 
  > Thanks for any help!
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  >



  

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Re: Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive

2009-03-03 by sanctifiedonesky

Well the confusion is my fault be I've "heard" that the Emax II looks
for Floppy Drive first at startup, then SCSI, the HD. I have an HD
that's functioning (when the keyboard will even work) but at startup I
get a "floppy disk error" and one red light shines next to the stop
button.

sorry for my ignorance I've never had to do anything inside it but
give it an HD (from my old Mac). But though the floppy seems to work,
it is transmitting an error message at startup, effectively freezing
the Emax II. Do you know why a normally functioning floppy drive would
transmit such a disabling signal? Loose wires inside maybe?


--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Rish" <rish@...> wrote:
>
> No No....I was only talking about the floppy drive, do you have a HD
issue as well? Guess I was thinking you were talking about the floppy
drive only.
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>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: sanctifiedonesky 
>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 7:09 PM
>   Subject: [emax] Re: Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive
> 
> 
>   Wow thanks for the reply! So even if it loads floppies (when the Emax
>   is working) the heads being "shot" will prevent it from booting
>   normally from it's HD? Just want to be clear that the reason it won't
>   turn on is the floppy.

Re: [emax] Re: Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive

2009-03-03 by Rish

Ok so you are sure the floppy loads 100%, formats 100% and saves 100%? When this happens are you booting for the HD only.
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sanctifiedonesky 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 7:39 PM
  Subject: [emax] Re: Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive


  Well the confusion is my fault be I've "heard" that the Emax II looks
  for Floppy Drive first at startup, then SCSI, the HD. I have an HD
  that's functioning (when the keyboard will even work) but at startup I
  get a "floppy disk error" and one red light shines next to the stop
  button.

  sorry for my ignorance I've never had to do anything inside it but
  give it an HD (from my old Mac). But though the floppy seems to work,
  it is transmitting an error message at startup, effectively freezing
  the Emax II. Do you know why a normally functioning floppy drive would
  transmit such a disabling signal? Loose wires inside maybe?

  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Rish" <rish@...> wrote:
  >
  > No No....I was only talking about the floppy drive, do you have a HD
  issue as well? Guess I was thinking you were talking about the floppy
  drive only.
  > R
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: sanctifiedonesky 
  > To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 7:09 PM
  > Subject: [emax] Re: Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive
  > 
  > 
  > Wow thanks for the reply! So even if it loads floppies (when the Emax
  > is working) the heads being "shot" will prevent it from booting
  > normally from it's HD? Just want to be clear that the reason it won't
  > turn on is the floppy. 



  

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Re: Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive

2009-03-03 by sanctifiedonesky

Hey thanks so much for the reply again! Not 100% sure now especially
since there've been recent incidents where it says: Bad Bank on Disk,
or Disk Error. You got me thinking about that now.

I just did manage to fire her up just now but the HD goes silent.
First I should say I jiggled the wired inside connecting to the floppy
but it still acts the same. Had to try it.

It wanted a 16bit Emax II disk and it was able to turn on with that in
the drive. Then I started running Diagnostics (not knowing what I'm
doing) by typing in 3628 in Master 9.

So far everything checks out but the floppy is running some Loooong
routine that won't end and as far as checking the HD it only
identified it as a Quantum drive.

I could have a bad floppy and since the HD shuts down right after
turning on I could have a bad HD. So how long does this floppy test
last ("VERIFY - soft - hard")?

To answer your question though, it now only boots from a 16bit floppy
in the drive ... it doesn't boot "from" the HD at all (I got that
whole process wrong before).


--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Rish" <rish@...> wrote:
>
> Ok so you are sure the floppy loads 100%, formats 100% and saves
100%? When this happens are you booting for the HD only.
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>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: sanctifiedonesky 
>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 7:39 PM
>   Subject: [emax] Re: Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive
> 
> 
>   Well the confusion is my fault be I've "heard" that the Emax II looks
>   for Floppy Drive first at startup

Re: [emax] Re: Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive

2009-03-03 by Rish

Hummmm well you could have a bad Floppy drive, I'm not surprised these are old drives and are reaching the limit of their operation. What happens is that the drives head wears out and will no longer read discs.
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sanctifiedonesky 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:27 PM
  Subject: [emax] Re: Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive


  Hey thanks so much for the reply again! Not 100% sure now especially
  since there've been recent incidents where it says: Bad Bank on Disk,
  or Disk Error. You got me thinking about that now.

  I just did manage to fire her up just now but the HD goes silent.
  First I should say I jiggled the wired inside connecting to the floppy
  but it still acts the same. Had to try it.

  It wanted a 16bit Emax II disk and it was able to turn on with that in
  the drive. Then I started running Diagnostics (not knowing what I'm
  doing) by typing in 3628 in Master 9.

  So far everything checks out but the floppy is running some Loooong
  routine that won't end and as far as checking the HD it only
  identified it as a Quantum drive.

  I could have a bad floppy and since the HD shuts down right after
  turning on I could have a bad HD. So how long does this floppy test
  last ("VERIFY - soft - hard")?

  To answer your question though, it now only boots from a 16bit floppy
  in the drive ... it doesn't boot "from" the HD at all (I got that
  whole process wrong before).

  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Rish" <rish@...> wrote:
  >
  > Ok so you are sure the floppy loads 100%, formats 100% and saves
  100%? When this happens are you booting for the HD only.
  > R
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: sanctifiedonesky 
  > To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 7:39 PM
  > Subject: [emax] Re: Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive
  > 
  > 
  > Well the confusion is my fault be I've "heard" that the Emax II looks
  > for Floppy Drive first at startup



  

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Re: Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive

2009-03-03 by sanctifiedonesky

Yes, at startup it says Checking Floppy, and finding nothing it goes
to SCSI: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 and then again with the numbers
repeating and never starting up. Not sure why it sees no floppy drive
when there's not floppy disk in the drive. Actually that is the only
way it will work: booting from a 16 bit floppy. So I'll try to put a
new HD in because that's the only thing I have to test it with now.

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