Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive
2009-03-02 by sanctifiedonesky
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2009-03-02 by sanctifiedonesky
My Emax II won't boot up hardly anymore. It gives a message: Not an Emax2 Floppy Drive. I know it's supposed to read the Floppy Drive first but I don't know if it's the drive, the drive's power supply, or the digital board. Are there diagnostic codes that could tell me conclusively? Thanks for any help!
2009-03-02 by Rish
Well If the light on the drive lights and you can hear the drive spinup then you know the drive has power but the heads are shot and the drive needs replacing. We have them at www.Route66studios.com R
----- Original Message ----- From: sanctifiedonesky To: emax@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:59 PM Subject: [emax] Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive My Emax II won't boot up hardly anymore. It gives a message: Not an Emax2 Floppy Drive. I know it's supposed to read the Floppy Drive first but I don't know if it's the drive, the drive's power supply, or the digital board. Are there diagnostic codes that could tell me conclusively? Thanks for any help! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2009-03-03 by sanctifiedonesky
Wow thanks for the reply! So even if it loads floppies (when the Emax is working) the heads being "shot" will prevent it from booting normally from it's HD? Just want to be clear that the reason it won't turn on is the floppy. --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Rish" <rish@...> wrote: > > Well If the light on the drive lights and you can hear the drive spinup then you know the drive has power but the heads are shot and the drive needs replacing. We have them at www.Route66studios.com
> R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: sanctifiedonesky > To: emax@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:59 PM > Subject: [emax] Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive > > > My Emax II won't boot up hardly anymore. It gives a message: Not an > Emax2 Floppy Drive. > > I know it's supposed to read the Floppy Drive first but I don't know > if it's the drive, the drive's power supply, or the digital board. > > Are there diagnostic codes that could tell me conclusively? > > Thanks for any help! > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2009-03-03 by Rish
No No....I was only talking about the floppy drive, do you have a HD issue as well? Guess I was thinking you were talking about the floppy drive only. R
----- Original Message ----- From: sanctifiedonesky To: emax@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 7:09 PM Subject: [emax] Re: Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive Wow thanks for the reply! So even if it loads floppies (when the Emax is working) the heads being "shot" will prevent it from booting normally from it's HD? Just want to be clear that the reason it won't turn on is the floppy. --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Rish" <rish@...> wrote: > > Well If the light on the drive lights and you can hear the drive spinup then you know the drive has power but the heads are shot and the drive needs replacing. We have them at www.Route66studios.com > R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: sanctifiedonesky > To: emax@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:59 PM > Subject: [emax] Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive > > > My Emax II won't boot up hardly anymore. It gives a message: Not an > Emax2 Floppy Drive. > > I know it's supposed to read the Floppy Drive first but I don't know > if it's the drive, the drive's power supply, or the digital board. > > Are there diagnostic codes that could tell me conclusively? > > Thanks for any help! > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2009-03-03 by sanctifiedonesky
Well the confusion is my fault be I've "heard" that the Emax II looks for Floppy Drive first at startup, then SCSI, the HD. I have an HD that's functioning (when the keyboard will even work) but at startup I get a "floppy disk error" and one red light shines next to the stop button. sorry for my ignorance I've never had to do anything inside it but give it an HD (from my old Mac). But though the floppy seems to work, it is transmitting an error message at startup, effectively freezing the Emax II. Do you know why a normally functioning floppy drive would transmit such a disabling signal? Loose wires inside maybe? --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Rish" <rish@...> wrote: > > No No....I was only talking about the floppy drive, do you have a HD issue as well? Guess I was thinking you were talking about the floppy drive only.
> R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: sanctifiedonesky > To: emax@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 7:09 PM > Subject: [emax] Re: Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive > > > Wow thanks for the reply! So even if it loads floppies (when the Emax > is working) the heads being "shot" will prevent it from booting > normally from it's HD? Just want to be clear that the reason it won't > turn on is the floppy.
2009-03-03 by Rish
Ok so you are sure the floppy loads 100%, formats 100% and saves 100%? When this happens are you booting for the HD only. R
----- Original Message ----- From: sanctifiedonesky To: emax@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 7:39 PM Subject: [emax] Re: Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive Well the confusion is my fault be I've "heard" that the Emax II looks for Floppy Drive first at startup, then SCSI, the HD. I have an HD that's functioning (when the keyboard will even work) but at startup I get a "floppy disk error" and one red light shines next to the stop button. sorry for my ignorance I've never had to do anything inside it but give it an HD (from my old Mac). But though the floppy seems to work, it is transmitting an error message at startup, effectively freezing the Emax II. Do you know why a normally functioning floppy drive would transmit such a disabling signal? Loose wires inside maybe? --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Rish" <rish@...> wrote: > > No No....I was only talking about the floppy drive, do you have a HD issue as well? Guess I was thinking you were talking about the floppy drive only. > R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: sanctifiedonesky > To: emax@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 7:09 PM > Subject: [emax] Re: Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive > > > Wow thanks for the reply! So even if it loads floppies (when the Emax > is working) the heads being "shot" will prevent it from booting > normally from it's HD? Just want to be clear that the reason it won't > turn on is the floppy. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2009-03-03 by sanctifiedonesky
Hey thanks so much for the reply again! Not 100% sure now especially
since there've been recent incidents where it says: Bad Bank on Disk,
or Disk Error. You got me thinking about that now.
I just did manage to fire her up just now but the HD goes silent.
First I should say I jiggled the wired inside connecting to the floppy
but it still acts the same. Had to try it.
It wanted a 16bit Emax II disk and it was able to turn on with that in
the drive. Then I started running Diagnostics (not knowing what I'm
doing) by typing in 3628 in Master 9.
So far everything checks out but the floppy is running some Loooong
routine that won't end and as far as checking the HD it only
identified it as a Quantum drive.
I could have a bad floppy and since the HD shuts down right after
turning on I could have a bad HD. So how long does this floppy test
last ("VERIFY - soft - hard")?
To answer your question though, it now only boots from a 16bit floppy
in the drive ... it doesn't boot "from" the HD at all (I got that
whole process wrong before).
--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Rish" <rish@...> wrote:
>
> Ok so you are sure the floppy loads 100%, formats 100% and saves
100%? When this happens are you booting for the HD only.> R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: sanctifiedonesky > To: emax@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 7:39 PM > Subject: [emax] Re: Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive > > > Well the confusion is my fault be I've "heard" that the Emax II looks > for Floppy Drive first at startup
2009-03-03 by Rish
Hummmm well you could have a bad Floppy drive, I'm not surprised these are old drives and are reaching the limit of their operation. What happens is that the drives head wears out and will no longer read discs. Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: sanctifiedonesky
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:27 PM
Subject: [emax] Re: Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive
Hey thanks so much for the reply again! Not 100% sure now especially
since there've been recent incidents where it says: Bad Bank on Disk,
or Disk Error. You got me thinking about that now.
I just did manage to fire her up just now but the HD goes silent.
First I should say I jiggled the wired inside connecting to the floppy
but it still acts the same. Had to try it.
It wanted a 16bit Emax II disk and it was able to turn on with that in
the drive. Then I started running Diagnostics (not knowing what I'm
doing) by typing in 3628 in Master 9.
So far everything checks out but the floppy is running some Loooong
routine that won't end and as far as checking the HD it only
identified it as a Quantum drive.
I could have a bad floppy and since the HD shuts down right after
turning on I could have a bad HD. So how long does this floppy test
last ("VERIFY - soft - hard")?
To answer your question though, it now only boots from a 16bit floppy
in the drive ... it doesn't boot "from" the HD at all (I got that
whole process wrong before).
--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Rish" <rish@...> wrote:
>
> Ok so you are sure the floppy loads 100%, formats 100% and saves
100%? When this happens are you booting for the HD only.
> R
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: sanctifiedonesky
> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 7:39 PM
> Subject: [emax] Re: Urgent question about Emax II Floppy Drive
>
>
> Well the confusion is my fault be I've "heard" that the Emax II looks
> for Floppy Drive first at startup
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2009-03-03 by sanctifiedonesky
Yes, at startup it says Checking Floppy, and finding nothing it goes to SCSI: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 and then again with the numbers repeating and never starting up. Not sure why it sees no floppy drive when there's not floppy disk in the drive. Actually that is the only way it will work: booting from a 16 bit floppy. So I'll try to put a new HD in because that's the only thing I have to test it with now.