Emax

Hi there, I recently bought an Emax Se plus (2100 model). Since then I've been trying to boot it in Se and Plus mode without any luck.
Tried copying the os image with Emxp and no luck, then managed to use the copyqm in a native DOS environment and copied the ZD700PLS image and no luck. The sample says 'Loading software', 'Loading bank' and then 'Wrong Software'.
I managed to succesfully copy every sound disk I wanted and also creating Emax HD 1.1 bootable disks. They work great but neither Se nor the Plus are working for me.

I'm suspecting something is wrong here. Is it possible for the seeler to change something inside the sampler? I disassembled the keyboard and took some pictures of the main boards. Seems to be a legitimate Se+. PC333 cpu board, internal SCSI CN2 free, external SCSI connected, Analog board PC345 and EChip PC349 rev. 

Analog board:
[URL=http://img707.imageshack.us/i/p1020005x.jpg/][IMG]http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8967/p1020005x.th.jpg[/img][/URL]

CPU board:
[URL=http://img641.imageshack.us/i/p1010993u.jpg/][IMG]http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/6443/p1010993u.th.jpg[/img][/URL]

CPU board close up:
[URL=http://img227.imageshack.us/i/p1020013k.jpg/][IMG]http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9995/p1020013k.th.jpg[/img][/URL]

Echip:
[URL=http://img28.imageshack.us/i/p1010994e.jpg/][IMG]http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/8058/p1010994e.th.jpg[/img][/URL]

External SCSI:
[URL=http://img21.imageshack.us/i/p1020016uq.jpg/][IMG]http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8252/p1020016uq.th.jpg[/img][/URL]


Looking forward to hear your thoughts about this.
Regards,
Augusto

Augusto-

Because it has HD and is Rev 3 (PC333) logic does not mean it is SE.
Since you say the HD OS disk works, then it sounds like you don't have  
SE.

DOwnload the SE Update image file from the group files section.
Download EMXUTIL from the files section.

Format a disk on Emax
Boot a PC into dos (not DOS window in XP- real actual boot of MS-DOS  
6.22 or 5.0 boot disk  and run EMXUTIL
(if you don't have a dos boot disk, there is again, a file in the  
group file section for this....)

Select write OS image from the menu and then the file name of SE  
Update IMage.

Boot Emax from this disk now and it should update to SE.
Now SE / Plus 1.0 disk should work.

Regards,
Ted

On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Augusto wrote:

Hi there, I recently bought an Emax Se plus (2100 model). Since then  
I've been trying to boot it in Se and Plus mode without any luck.
Tried copying the os image with Emxp and no luck, then managed to use  
the copyqm in a native DOS environment and copied the ZD700PLS image  
and no luck. The sample says 'Loading software', 'Loading bank' and  
then 'Wrong Software'.
I managed to succesfully copy every sound disk I wanted and also  
creating Emax HD 1.1 bootable disks. They work great but neither Se  
nor the Plus are working for me.

I'm suspecting something is wrong here. Is it possible for the seeler  
to change something inside the sampler? I disassembled the keyboard  
and took some pictures of the main boards. Seems to be a legitimate Se 
+. PC333 cpu board, internal SCSI CN2 free, external SCSI connected,  
Analog board PC345 and EChip PC349 rev.

Analog board:
[URL=http://img707.imageshack.us/i/p1020005x.jpg/][IMG]http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8967/p1020005x.th.jpg 
[/img][/URL]

CPU board:
[URL=http://img641.imageshack.us/i/p1010993u.jpg/][IMG]http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/6443/p1010993u.th.jpg 
[/img][/URL]

CPU board close up:
[URL=http://img227.imageshack.us/i/p1020013k.jpg/][IMG]http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9995/p1020013k.th.jpg 
[/img][/URL]

Echip:
[URL=http://img28.imageshack.us/i/p1010994e.jpg/][IMG]http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/8058/p1010994e.th.jpg 
[/img][/URL]

External SCSI:
[URL=http://img21.imageshack.us/i/p1020016uq.jpg/][IMG]http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8252/p1020016uq.th.jpg 
[/img][/URL]

Looking forward to hear your thoughts about this.
Regards,
Augusto






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Please note that there is simply a flipped bit in the 93C06 that makes  
Emax SE.
If somehow, that bit got lost / flipped in EEPROM, then you could lose  
SE function....

I have not heard of it happening - but it is POSSIBLE.

Regards,
Ted

On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Augusto wrote:

Hi there, I recently bought an Emax Se plus (2100 model). Since then  
I've been trying to boot it in Se and Plus mode without any luck.
Tried copying the os image with Emxp and no luck, then managed to use  
the copyqm in a native DOS environment and copied the ZD700PLS image  
and no luck. The sample says 'Loading software', 'Loading bank' and  
then 'Wrong Software'.
I managed to succesfully copy every sound disk I wanted and also  
creating Emax HD 1.1 bootable disks. They work great but neither Se  
nor the Plus are working for me.

I'm suspecting something is wrong here. Is it possible for the seeler  
to change something inside the sampler? I disassembled the keyboard  
and took some pictures of the main boards. Seems to be a legitimate Se 
+. PC333 cpu board, internal SCSI CN2 free, external SCSI connected,  
Analog board PC345 and EChip PC349 rev.

Analog board:
[URL=http://img707.imageshack.us/i/p1020005x.jpg/][IMG]http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8967/p1020005x.th.jpg 
[/img][/URL]

CPU board:
[URL=http://img641.imageshack.us/i/p1010993u.jpg/][IMG]http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/6443/p1010993u.th.jpg 
[/img][/URL]

CPU board close up:
[URL=http://img227.imageshack.us/i/p1020013k.jpg/][IMG]http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9995/p1020013k.th.jpg 
[/img][/URL]

Echip:
[URL=http://img28.imageshack.us/i/p1010994e.jpg/][IMG]http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/8058/p1010994e.th.jpg 
[/img][/URL]

External SCSI:
[URL=http://img21.imageshack.us/i/p1020016uq.jpg/][IMG]http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8252/p1020016uq.th.jpg 
[/img][/URL]

Looking forward to hear your thoughts about this.
Regards,
Augusto





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Actually Ted it is a 2100 model with SE panel and external SCSI at the back. So this a Plus version and factory Se. It should boot a Plus 1.0.
No aftermarket upgrades, it's has the factory blue SCSI port.
Upgraded SCSI Emaxes have the last 's' from Systems covered by the port. Mine has Systems an inch to the left.
Am I right?  I'm just learnig everything I can.

Here are the pics:

Front panel:
[URL=http://img145.imageshack.us/i/p1010975j.jpg/][IMG]http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/25/p1010975j.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

2100 Model ( Plus)
[URL=http://img717.imageshack.us/i/p1010981x.jpg/][IMG]http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/794/p1010981x.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]


External SCSI:
[URL=http://img24.imageshack.us/i/emuemaxse5.jpg/][IMG]http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8064/emuemaxse5.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:

>
> Augusto-
> 
> Because it has HD and is Rev 3 (PC333) logic does not mean it is SE.
> Since you say the HD OS disk works, then it sounds like you don't have  
> SE.
> 
> DOwnload the SE Update image file from the group files section.
> Download EMXUTIL from the files section.
> 
> Format a disk on Emax
> Boot a PC into dos (not DOS window in XP- real actual boot of MS-DOS  
> 6.22 or 5.0 boot disk  and run EMXUTIL
> (if you don't have a dos boot disk, there is again, a file in the  
> group file section for this....)
> 
> Select write OS image from the menu and then the file name of SE  
> Update IMage.
> 
> Boot Emax from this disk now and it should update to SE.
> Now SE / Plus 1.0 disk should work.
> 
> Regards,
> Ted
> 
> On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Augusto wrote:
> 
> Hi there, I recently bought an Emax Se plus (2100 model). Since then  
> I've been trying to boot it in Se and Plus mode without any luck.
> Tried copying the os image with Emxp and no luck, then managed to use  
> the copyqm in a native DOS environment and copied the ZD700PLS image  
> and no luck. The sample says 'Loading software', 'Loading bank' and  
> then 'Wrong Software'.
> I managed to succesfully copy every sound disk I wanted and also  
> creating Emax HD 1.1 bootable disks. They work great but neither Se  
> nor the Plus are working for me.
> 
> I'm suspecting something is wrong here. Is it possible for the seeler  
> to change something inside the sampler? I disassembled the keyboard  
> and took some pictures of the main boards. Seems to be a legitimate Se 
> +. PC333 cpu board, internal SCSI CN2 free, external SCSI connected,  
> Analog board PC345 and EChip PC349 rev.
> 
> Analog board:
> [URL=http://img707.imageshack.us/i/p1020005x.jpg/][IMG]http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8967/p1020005x.th.jpg 
> [/img][/URL]
> 
> CPU board:
> [URL=http://img641.imageshack.us/i/p1010993u.jpg/][IMG]http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/6443/p1010993u.th.jpg 
> [/img][/URL]
> 
> CPU board close up:
> [URL=http://img227.imageshack.us/i/p1020013k.jpg/][IMG]http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9995/p1020013k.th.jpg 
> [/img][/URL]
> 
> Echip:
> [URL=http://img28.imageshack.us/i/p1010994e.jpg/][IMG]http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/8058/p1010994e.th.jpg 
> [/img][/URL]
> 
> External SCSI:
> [URL=http://img21.imageshack.us/i/p1020016uq.jpg/][IMG]http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8252/p1020016uq.th.jpg 
> [/img][/URL]
> 
> Looking forward to hear your thoughts about this.
> Regards,
> Augusto
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>

Yes that is definitely an SE.

But if it doesn't think it is an SE, you may have lost the bit  
setting, as I said on previous email.
Run the SE update as I suggested and it should come back.


On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:16 PM, Augusto wrote:

http://img717.imageshack.us/i/p1010981x.jpg/



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Still no luck. Today I formatted a DSDD disk in the Emax and then copied with EMXP the SEUpgrade. It boots and then after the 'Loading bank' it says 'Wrong software!'.
What's the matter with this baby?

Looking forward to hear your thoughs,
Augusto.


--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:

>
> Yes that is definitely an SE.
> 
> But if it doesn't think it is an SE, you may have lost the bit  
> setting, as I said on previous email.
> Run the SE update as I suggested and it should come back.
> 
> 
> On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:16 PM, Augusto wrote:
> 
> http://img717.imageshack.us/i/p1010981x.jpg/
> 
> 
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>

I cannot confirm you can make this disk with EMXP.

Please make it with EMXUTIL in DOS,

Regards,
Ted

On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:36 PM, Augusto wrote:

Still no luck. Today I formatted a DSDD disk in the Emax and then  
copied with EMXP the SEUpgrade. It boots and then after the 'Loading  
bank' it says 'Wrong software!'.
What's the matter with this baby?

Looking forward to hear your thoughs,
Augusto.

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:
 >
 > Yes that is definitely an SE.
 >
 > But if it doesn't think it is an SE, you may have lost the bit
 > setting, as I said on previous email.
 > Run the SE update as I suggested and it should come back.
 >
 >
 > On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:16 PM, Augusto wrote:
 >
 > http://img717.imageshack.us/i/p1010981x.jpg/
 >
 >
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 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 >






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augusto soy de argentina y tengo 2 emax. ya me considero un guru porque los hago andar hasta abajo del agua
jaja

comunicate conmigo 

paquitopaquitopaquito arroba msn.com

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Augusto" <augustoacuna@...> wrote:

>
> Still no luck. Today I formatted a DSDD disk in the Emax and then copied with EMXP the SEUpgrade. It boots and then after the 'Loading bank' it says 'Wrong software!'.
> What's the matter with this baby?
> 
> Looking forward to hear your thoughs,
> Augusto.
> 
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Ted Summers <djtbs1@> wrote:
> >
> > Yes that is definitely an SE.
> > 
> > But if it doesn't think it is an SE, you may have lost the bit  
> > setting, as I said on previous email.
> > Run the SE update as I suggested and it should come back.
> > 
> > 
> > On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:16 PM, Augusto wrote:
> > 
> > http://img717.imageshack.us/i/p1010981x.jpg/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Correct. EMXP can not do that.

There are two options:
- The SEUpgrade file must be saved to a floppy disk with OmniFlop itself, not with EMXP. 
- The Seup.em1 file must be saved to floppy with the emaxutil tool in DOS.

The SEUpgrade file is in fact an OmniFlop "dump" from a floppy disk I first created with Emaxutil and Seup.em1.


--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:

>
> I cannot confirm you can make this disk with EMXP.
> 
> Please make it with EMXUTIL in DOS,
> 
> Regards,
> Ted
> 
> On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:36 PM, Augusto wrote:
> 
> Still no luck. Today I formatted a DSDD disk in the Emax and then  
> copied with EMXP the SEUpgrade. It boots and then after the 'Loading  
> bank' it says 'Wrong software!'.
> What's the matter with this baby?
> 
> Looking forward to hear your thoughs,
> Augusto.
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Ted Summers <djtbs1@> wrote:
>  >
>  > Yes that is definitely an SE.
>  >
>  > But if it doesn't think it is an SE, you may have lost the bit
>  > setting, as I said on previous email.
>  > Run the SE update as I suggested and it should come back.
>  >
>  >
>  > On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:16 PM, Augusto wrote:
>  >
>  > http://img717.imageshack.us/i/p1010981x.jpg/
>  >
>  >
>  >
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>  >
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Hey if your having trouble with the SE upgrade discs I have them  
available at www.route66studios.com
R

Sent from my iPod

On Jul 3, 2010, at 4:16 AM, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@...> wrote:

> Correct. EMXP can not do that.
>
> There are two options:
> - The SEUpgrade file must be saved to a floppy disk with OmniFlop  
> itself, not with EMXP.
> - The Seup.em1 file must be saved to floppy with the emaxutil tool  
> in DOS.
>
> The SEUpgrade file is in fact an OmniFlop "dump" from a floppy disk  
> I first created with Emaxutil and Seup.em1.
>
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Ted Summers <djtbs1@...> wrote:
> >
> > I cannot confirm you can make this disk with EMXP.
> >
> > Please make it with EMXUTIL in DOS,
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ted
> >
> > On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:36 PM, Augusto wrote:
> >
> > Still no luck. Today I formatted a DSDD disk in the Emax and then
> > copied with EMXP the SEUpgrade. It boots and then after the 'Loading
> > bank' it says 'Wrong software!'.
> > What's the matter with this baby?
> >
> > Looking forward to hear your thoughs,
> > Augusto.
> >
> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Ted Summers <djtbs1@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes that is definitely an SE.
> > >
> > > But if it doesn't think it is an SE, you may have lost the bit
> > > setting, as I said on previous email.
> > > Run the SE update as I suggested and it should come back.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:16 PM, Augusto wrote:
> > >
> > > http://img717.imageshack.us/i/p1010981x.jpg/
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
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Thanks Rob. I've already been able to upgrade it to Se. Just needed to copy the upgrade with omniflop utils. Now Plus is working just fine.

Thanks,
augusto.



--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Rish <rish@...> wrote:

>
> Hey if your having trouble with the SE upgrade discs I have them  
> available at www.route66studios.com
> R
> 
> Sent from my iPod
> 
> On Jul 3, 2010, at 4:16 AM, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@...> wrote:
> 
> > Correct. EMXP can not do that.
> >
> > There are two options:
> > - The SEUpgrade file must be saved to a floppy disk with OmniFlop  
> > itself, not with EMXP.
> > - The Seup.em1 file must be saved to floppy with the emaxutil tool  
> > in DOS.
> >
> > The SEUpgrade file is in fact an OmniFlop "dump" from a floppy disk  
> > I first created with Emaxutil and Seup.em1.
> >
> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Ted Summers <djtbs1@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I cannot confirm you can make this disk with EMXP.
> > >
> > > Please make it with EMXUTIL in DOS,
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ted
> > >
> > > On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:36 PM, Augusto wrote:
> > >
> > > Still no luck. Today I formatted a DSDD disk in the Emax and then
> > > copied with EMXP the SEUpgrade. It boots and then after the 'Loading
> > > bank' it says 'Wrong software!'.
> > > What's the matter with this baby?
> > >
> > > Looking forward to hear your thoughs,
> > > Augusto.
> > >
> > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Ted Summers <djtbs1@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes that is definitely an SE.
> > > >
> > > > But if it doesn't think it is an SE, you may have lost the bit
> > > > setting, as I said on previous email.
> > > > Run the SE update as I suggested and it should come back.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:16 PM, Augusto wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://img717.imageshack.us/i/p1010981x.jpg/
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