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2001-08-23 by Chewy Squid
Hi, The list founder emailed me about this group - thanks! I joined via email and would like to check out the archives but have not figured out how to do so. Do I have to sign up with yahoo groups now? (Subscription did not require this). Thanks.
2001-08-23 by Mike B (digiboy)
> >Hi, > > > >The list founder emailed me about this group - thanks! I joined via email > >and would like to check out the archives but have not figured out how to do > >so. Do I have to sign up with yahoo groups now? (Subscription did not > >require this). Thanks. I'm changing the settings so that you should be able to access the archives. Please let me know off list if you still have trouble. Regards, Mike B Mike Berman digiboy@...
2001-09-05 by Daniel Araya
Hi! Anyone got a copy of the EML Polybox schematics they want to share? /Daniel Araya, Sweden
2001-09-05 by Mike B (digiboy)
> >Hi! > > > >Anyone got a copy of the EML Polybox schematics they want to share? > > > >/Daniel Araya, Sweden Hey Daniel, I have them, will try to get them scanned and posted to the files section over the weekend. regards, Mike B Mike Berman digiboy@...
2001-09-05 by Daniel Araya
> To: emlsynth@yahoogroups.com > From: "Mike B (digiboy)" <digiboy@...> > Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 10:54:26 -0400 > Reply-to: emlsynth@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [emlsynth] polybox schemos? > > Hey Daniel, > > I have them, will try to get them scanned and posted to the files section > over the weekend. > regards, > Mike B > Thanks! I've been intrigued by that little box since i first saw a picture of it ten years ago! Maybe it's clone-time? :) /Daniel
2001-09-05 by Mike B (digiboy)
>> Hey Daniel,
>> I have them, will try to get them scanned and posted to the files section
>> over the weekend.
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>> Mike B
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Daniel,
IMO the Polybox was overhyped although there's no question that it's a
very unique little beast.
Basically it is designed to track the pitch of one voice. Then it has 12
voices tuned chromatically apart from each other which can be played on
the 12 keys and will sound relative to the tracked pitch. The original
pitch always being the low "C" on the keyboard. For example, press the
"E" key of the Polybox keyboard and you would hear a voice that is a major
3rd above the tracked pitch. You can play "chords" or any combination of
the 12 keys or all of them. It does a couple of other tricks like it can go
up or down a full octave and has some phasing effects. It won't read more
than one voice and if you try, it will only respond with some chaotic
squawks. Same goes for noise and other sounds with no distinct single
pitch----of course chaotic squawks have their value too.
It does not translate envelope or filter from the original voice; the
orignal timbre is not preserved. The new voices are basically either on or
off as you play the keys and they are pretty much of a generic sawtooth
sound which you can fool with a bit on the Poly's controls. You could, of
course, run the Poly's output thru other effects and filters and such to
further modify it, but that's as much as it does on it's own.
Mike Berman
digiboy@...2001-09-05 by >>>marjan<<<
> Basically it is designed to track the pitch of one voice. Then it has 12 > voices tuned chromatically apart from each other which can be played on > the 12 keys and will sound relative to the tracked pitch. The original > pitch always being the low "C" on the keyboard. For example, press the Is it based around PLL (4046 or so)? -- marjan me : Marjan Urekar e-mail: urekar.m@... s-diy : http://surf.to/marjansystems music : http://go.to/forcemajeure
2001-09-05 by Mike B (digiboy)
> > > >> Basically it is designed to track the pitch of one voice. Then it has 12 > >> voices tuned chromatically apart from each other which can be played on > >> the 12 keys and will sound relative to the tracked pitch. The original > >> pitch always being the low "C" on the keyboard. For example, press the > > > >Is it based around PLL (4046 or so)? Sorry I don't know what that means. PLL=Phase lock looped? I seem to recall that term being used in the description but not sure. Perhaps you can tell more from the schemo's? I will try to post this weekend. Mike Berman digiboy@...
2001-09-05 by Daniel Araya
> To: emlsynth@yahoogroups.com > From: "Mike B (digiboy)" <digiboy@...> > Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 14:03:09 -0400 > Reply-to: emlsynth@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [emlsynth] polybox schemos? Hi! I know that the polybox is pretty simple but i really like that kind of machines! I have a few other weird little boxes such as Perl Syncussion and Korg x-911 guitarsynthesizer so maybe i'll like the polybox! I'm also on the lookout for a Paia Gnome... marjan wrote: > Is it based around PLL (4046 or so)?> I think so, and maybe some sort of octave divider too... btw, nice to see a fellow s-diyer! :) /Daniel, Sweden
> Daniel, > IMO the Polybox was overhyped although there's no question that it's a > very unique little beast. > Basically it is designed to track the pitch of one voice. Then it has 12 > voices tuned chromatically apart from each other which can be played on > the 12 keys and will sound relative to the tracked pitch. The original > pitch always being the low "C" on the keyboard. For example, press the > "E" key of the Polybox keyboard and you would hear a voice that is a major > 3rd above the tracked pitch. You can play "chords" or any combination of > the 12 keys or all of them. It does a couple of other tricks like it can go > up or down a full octave and has some phasing effects. It won't read more > than one voice and if you try, it will only respond with some chaotic > squawks. Same goes for noise and other sounds with no distinct single > pitch----of course chaotic squawks have their value too. > It does not translate envelope or filter from the original voice; the > orignal timbre is not preserved. The new voices are basically either on or > off as you play the keys and they are pretty much of a generic sawtooth > sound which you can fool with a bit on the Poly's controls. You could, of > course, run the Poly's output thru other effects and filters and such to > further modify it, but that's as much as it does on it's own.
2001-09-06 by >>>marjan<<<
> > I know that the polybox is pretty simple but i really like that kind > of machines! I have a few other weird little > boxes such as Perl Syncussion and Korg x-911 Do you happen to have schematics for them? > guitarsynthesizer so maybe i'll like the polybox! > I'm also on the lookout for a Paia Gnome... You can find the full article and schematics here http://omega.tellus.vallentuna.se/anders/index.html (with lotsa of other paia and diy stuff) It's easty to build one (as I did, without ribbon). > > I think so, and maybe some sort of octave divider too... If I remember corectly it has one octave or so, and having input freq as lowest C, makes me think it's pll that feeds some top octave generator like old 50240 (did I got it right) to produce all the notes from an octave. Of course, both parts could be more or less discrete, but that's what should be in there IMO... > > btw, nice to see a fellow s-diyer! :) > same here... -- marjan me : Marjan Urekar e-mail: urekar.m@... s-diy : http://surf.to/marjansystems music : http://go.to/forcemajeure
2001-09-06 by >>>marjan<<<
> >Is it based around PLL (4046 or so)? > > Sorry I don't know what that means. PLL=Phase lock looped? Phase locked loop This thingies are common in such apps, basically they try to "lock" on input frequency and osc at the same, but they have overshoots during the process which make those "squaks"... > I seem to > recall that term being used in the description but not sure. Perhaps you > can tell more from the schemo's? I will try to post this weekend. It'd be interesting for sure... -- marjan me : Marjan Urekar e-mail: urekar.m@... s-diy : http://surf.to/marjansystems music : http://go.to/forcemajeure
2001-09-06 by Daniel Araya
> Organization: ForceMajeure - Random Is As Random Was > To: emlsynth@yahoogroups.com > From: ">>>marjan<<<" <urekar.m@...> > Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 10:39:33 +0200 > Reply-to: emlsynth@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [emlsynth] polybox schemos? > > > > > I know that the polybox is pretty simple but i really like that kind > > of machines! I have a few other weird little > > boxes such as Perl Syncussion and Korg x-911 > > Do you happen to have schematics for them? Sorry, no. I'll keep you informed if i find anything. I can send you the schemos for the korg ms02 and 04 if you want. > > I'm also on the lookout for a Paia Gnome... > > You can find the full article and schematics here > http://omega.tellus.vallentuna.se/anders/index.html > (with lotsa of other paia and diy stuff) > It's easty to build one (as I did, without ribbon). Cool! Did you build an enclosure similar to the original or did you build a completly new one? I really like the original enclosure, maybe i can force Magnus Danielsson (sdiy) to sell me his Gnome! :) > > > > I think so, and maybe some sort of octave divider too... > > If I remember corectly it has one octave or so, and having > input freq as lowest C, makes me think it's pll that feeds > some top octave generator like old 50240 (did I got it right) > to produce all the notes from an octave. Of course, both > parts could be more or less discrete, but that's what should > be in there IMO... My thoughts too /Daniel
2001-09-06 by >>>marjan<<<
> Sorry, no. I'll keep you informed if i find anything. > I can send you the schemos for the korg ms02 and 04 if you want. Thanks, I have them... BTW, I have EML101 schems for VCOs,exp, and filter. I'll scan them, I hope other members will contribute to make full set of schematics. > > Cool! Did you build an enclosure similar to the original or did you > build a completly new one? Built it in toy keyboard, with small keys, dedicated lfo, and new filter with FM (diode ladder), still with single lm3900... > I really like the original > enclosure, maybe i can force Magnus Danielsson (sdiy) to sell me his > Gnome! :) Maybe, maybe ... :) -- marjan me : Marjan Urekar e-mail: urekar.m@... s-diy : http://surf.to/marjansystems music : http://go.to/forcemajeure