>
> I was wondering if the RS422 board needed to be altered in any way to work with
> the RS422/USB converter. If I have to make an RS422 board to talk to a Mac,
> which is very likely, and spend lots of time on it, I only want to make one
> instead of making one, getting mad because there is a better one and then making
> another one to work with the RS422/USB Windows setup.
>
> Here's my logic: If this project you are working on turns out really well in the
> future, a system that works with Windows 7 would be preferred over a vintage mac
> as long as I don't have to make destructive modifications to my EII A vintage
> mac probably has all sorts of problems that I'm not interested in fixing. Plus
> my audio hardware and software are already associated with my Windows machine.
> I will be easier to send samples I just recorded from my windows 7 machine
> directly to the EII. I haven't even looked into how I would record a sample
> with the EII / Mac setup. Again, my objective is to streamline the sampling
> process, be able to set loop points at the zero cross, and be able to name
> files.
>
> According to your instructions here
> http://www.emulatorarchive.com/assets/PDF/SD%20for%20EII%20Troubleshooting.pdf,
> if I have a rev 0 board, I shouldn't have to slash any traces. Upgrading
> doesn't look that difficult.
>
> Who knows, maybe I'm trying to bite off more than I can chew? I didn't read
> every single manual either. Maybe I missed something?
>
> -Mike
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: esynthesist <esynthesist@...>
> To: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 4:01:04 PM
> Subject: [emulatorII-list] Re: USB/RS422 device news
>
>
> I'm not sure if I understand you correctly here.
>
> If you are asking whether the USB/RS422 is reverse compatible in order to use it
> with a vintage Mac... why would you want that ?
> I mean: this USB/RS422 device expects the EII to have an RS422 board installed.
> The USB/RS422 device does not aim to add RS422 capabilities to the EII - it does
> add these capabilities to the PC !
> Or to put it in other words: it adds USB capability to the EII, on condition
> that the EII already contains RS422 (native or after upgrade).
>
> So... if your EII has RS422 and you have a vintage Mac with SDII, then the
> USB/RS422 device is completely useless.
> Just connect the two with a DB25<->minidin8 cable.
>
> And if your EII does not have RS422, the device will not solve that. You first
> have to upgrade your EII.
> Note also that upgrading your EII from RS232 to RS422 is really not easy. It's
> not just simply adding a piggyboard. You need to cut traces and all that kind of
> stuff. I don't know anyone who was brave enough to perform this conversion on
> his/her EII.
>
> Do I understand your problem correctly or am I somewhere missing the point ?
>
> ///E-Synthesist
>
> --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, Mike Borish <mborish_2000@> wrote:
> >
> > Is this RS422 thing reverse compatible? Can I still get all of the benefits of
> >
> > SDII on a vintage Mac with this RS422 thing you're working on?
> >
> >
> > Right now, I'd be happy with a RS422 board with an accompanying cable and SDII
>
> > boot disk/install disk (so I don't have to monkey with the file conversion
> > from Win 7 to Mac) and to replace the RS232 port that is in my EII SN#608. If
>
> > this EMXP thing gets going, I guess I could purchase the cable and upgrade.
> >
> > Is there anybody that has manufactured RS422 boards and SDII disks for sale to
>
> > replace the RS232 board that is in my EII?
> >
> > Thanks again guys. I am absolutely amazed at how much work people have done
> > with this thing.
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: esynthesist <esynthesist@>
> > To: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 4:20:29 AM
> > Subject: [emulatorII-list] Re: USB/RS422 device news
> >
> >
> > The specs have been released a few months ago.
> > You can find them here:
> > http://users.skynet.be/emxp/EMUCOMBOX.htm
> >
> > So far these kits are not for sale - they are DIY.
> > There's currently a problem with the availability of the main component of the
>
> > device however (Atmel AVR demo board) - it seems almost no shop was able to
> >ship
> >
> > them during the last few months :-)
> >
> > This week I will have all components to build the alternative device, but I
> >have
> >
> > to build a prototype first before I can really confirm it works. I hope I can
> >do
> >
> > this still in August.
> > Perhaps if that one works I will build and ship a few of them to some people...
> >
> > The specs of this device for DIY would be released too of course.
> >
> > The USB/RS422 should work with Windows 7. I only tested it with XP and Vista,
> > but it uses a very simple USB driver which probably can be installed on W7 too.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regarding you questions about sample loops and file naming on EII display: be
> > aware that the device is 'just' a connector between the RS422 interface and the
> >
> > USB port of the PC. All othe stuff must be solved by software, either on PC
> >side
> >
> > or on EII side. EMXP currently only supports transfers of complete banks in
> >SDII
> >
> > format over RS422. The next version v301 will probably support EII sample
> > transfers too (perhaps even with loop point support from WAV), but by no means
>
> > this can be compared to a full VST controlling the EII from a PC. That's my
> >next
> >
> > project :-)
> >
> > ///E-Synthesist
> >
> > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, Mike Borish <mborish_2000@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What is the status of this USB/RS422 kit? Are they available for sale?
> > >
> > > Is this the end all to the EII working in tandem (Storage/Load/etc. ) with
> > > windows 7? Can I set sample loops on the zero cross and name files that show
> >
> > >up
> > >
> > > in my display window on the EII?
> > >
> > >
> > > I can assemble it if necesary.
> > >
> > > -Mike
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: David <jeepcherokee_10@>
> > > To: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 4:31:16 PM
> > > Subject: [emulatorII-list] Re: USB/RS422 device news
> > >
> > >
> > > great !! can't wait to see these specs when ready. my E-II is
> > > waiting patiently ....
> > >
> > > will you be selling these units as a DIY kit of schematics, firmware, & a
> > > parts-list for ordering my own parts? or will you actually sell the completed
> >
> > > unit assembled ?
> > >
> > > also, will it work in both 32-bit and 64-bit Windows 7 ?
> > >
> > > thanks
> > > David
> > >
> > > --- In emulatorII-list@ yahoogroups. com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@ ...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well I have currently the "expensive" prototype USB/RS422 device which is
> > > >working fine for a few months already with both my EII and Emax :)
> > > > By the way: "expensive" means about USD 50... But hey, the new one will
> >even
> >
> > >be
> > >
> > > >cheaper and smaller and easier to assemble so that sounds really great !
> > > > Note: in the meanwhile EMXP v2.08 is ready for use with USB/RS422, but it
> > >will
> > >
> > > >only be released once I receive the confirmation "from Australia" that the
> >new
> >
> > >
> > > >device is ready and schematics are published :)
> > > >
> > > > ///E-Synthesist
> > > >
> > > > --- In emulatorII-list@ yahoogroups. com, Mike de Vries <mrjdevries@ >
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Um.. it's on it's way.. trust me.. It's on it's way.. Just gotta make the
> >
> > > >slacker work hard on making a cheaper prototype.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Wed, 24/3/10, Dana Fiorucci <dfiorucci@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Dana Fiorucci <dfiorucci@>
> > > > > Subject: [emulatorII- list] Re: Trying to run SD for EII on a New MacBook
> >
> > >Pro
> > >
> > > >17" 2.4 ghz
> > > > > To: emulatorII-list@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Received: Wednesday, 24 March, 2010, 6:07 AM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I had at one time a Stealth G-Port adapter running from a dual 1.25 but
> >was
> >
> > >
> > > >unable to get it to work but that was in OS 9.22
> > > > > In theory it may work in OS 8.6.
> > > > > Too bad someone can't make a USB to RS-422 adapter that would be
> > >compatible.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Visit Dana's Synth Site
> > > > > http://members. cox.net/synths/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I realize this is an old message, but I felt it was necessary to provide
>
> > >some
> > >
> > > >info here for archival purposes.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I remember trying to get that Keyspan USA-28 adapter to work with a MOTU
>
> > >MIDI
> > >
> > > >Express for Macintosh, on a Blue & White G3, running Mac OS 8.6. It would
> >not
> >
> >
> > > >work because the adapter could not provide as high as a 1MHz signal to the
> > >MIDI
> > >
> > > >interface. It did, however, work with a 56K modem that needed a lot less
> >than
> >
> >
> > > >1Mhz.ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > According to what I've read in the RS-422 spec PDF provided on this
> >board,
> >
> >
> > > >the Emulator needs a 500kBaud signal from the Mac. If my understanding is
> > > >correct, this is above what the Keyspan USA-28 can provide, and thus it will
> >
> > >not
> > >
> > > >work for Emulator II to Mac purposes.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > For the record, in my case, what did work for the MIDI Express was a
> > >special
> > >
> > > >Geoport adapter that could be installed in the Internal Modem slot on the
> >Blue
> >
> > >&
> > >
> > > >White G3. The "Yosemite" Blue & White G3, and the "Yikes" G4 are the only
> >two
> >
> >
> > > >machines that accept this adapter, and thus are the two most modern Macs
> >that
> >
> > >I
> > >
> > > >am aware of that in theory can communicate directly with the Emulator
> >II.ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡
> >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I will test this to confirm.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In emulatorII-list@ yahoogroups. com, "djfiorucci" <dfiorucci@ .>
> > >wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Leave it to me to get a brand new computer and try to make it work
> > > > > > with one of the oldest pieces of gear in my studio.
> > > > > >ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡
> > > > > > Anyway here is the little project I'm working on at this point.
> > > > > >ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡
> > > > > > I've setup Basilisk II on my new MacBook Pro with OS 7.1.
> > > > > > For those of you who don't know Basilisk II is a old mac emulator.
> > > > > > Yep I'm booting the same image that I have on a Mac SE/30 and a Mac
> > >LCIII.
> > > > > >ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡
> > > > > > I've added a Keyspan Twin Serial adapter in hopes to communicate with
> > > > > > the Emulator II thru Basilisk II window.
> > > > > >ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡
> > > > > > Okay here is where I think I'm not getting communication.
> > > > > > Since the driver for the Keyspan is running in OSX I don't think the
> > > > > > OS 7.1 system sees it.
> > > > > > (By the way other than not seeing the connection port SD for EII is
> > > > > > running great inside Basilisk II.)
> > > > > > Does anyone know what OS will still run SD for EII but also address
> > > > > > USB ports?
> > > > > > 8.0 to 8.6?
> > > > > >ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡
> > > > > > I can setup Basilisk to run all the way up to OS 8.6 I think.
> > > > > >ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡
> > > > > > Another thought if there was a driver that could be added to 7.1
> > > > > > system folder to enable it to use the USB ports via the Keyspan
> >adapter.
> > > > > >ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡
> > > > > > This would be so cool to be able to run SD for EII from my new MacBook
> > > > > > Pro.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>