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Re: [gsp-2101] Leslie patch

2003-06-23 by Tod Brueske

I got this from this web page

http://www.bstage.com/gsp_html/

I'm not home so I can't check this out but as I recall I was very impressed 
with this patch:

Part of my guitar rig for the past few years has been a Leslie 147. I
love the way this thing sounds, but I'm really sick of hauling it
around and I have to mic it to get enough volume for larger venues.  So
in an effort to elliminate this hassle, I set out a couple of weeks ago
to program a patch for the GSP-2101 to replace my Leslie. Well to be
honest, I leave for a 5 month tour next week and it looks like I'm
still going to be draging the damn leslie around. The guys in my group
said this patch was good enough for them, but I'm used to
the real deal, and we've roadies now, so why compromise?  Anyway, the
patch that follows should be used in stereo if possible. It loses alot
in mono. I have scaled it down to 1 S-Disk from my original 2 S-disk
version, so  that more people can try it. If you have a second S-Disk,
adding a reverb module and a second 4 Way Panner instead of the mono
tremolo for the bass rotor does help the patch a bit.
There are 4 links to the internal CC pedal to control the speed of the
rotors.


Patch Name: One Forty-six    (Not quite a perfect simulation of a model
147 Leslie speaker, so I knocked it down a number)

There is an attachment to this document, which is a .bmp graphic block
diagram. If you can't grab it, don't worry. You don't really need it.
Just follow the instructions below and you'll do just fine.
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Create a user Algorithm with modules connected in the following order:

Modulated Delay
2x1 mixer
High Pass Filter
4 Way Panner
1 Band Parametric EQ
Modulated Delay
2x1 mixer
Low Pass Filter
Mono Tremolo
5x2 mixer
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Link as follows:

Left input      to    MDLY A  INP1
MDLY A out 1    to    2x1 A  INP1
Left input      to    2x1 A  INP2
2x1 A out 1     to    HPF INP1
HPF out 1       to    4 PAN INP1
4 PAN out 1     to    PEQ1  INP1
Left input      to    MDLY B  INP1
MDLY B out 1    to    2x1 B INP1
Left input      to    2x1 B INP2
2x1 B out 1     to    LPF INP1
LPF out 1       to    TRM INP1
PEQ out 1       to    5x2 INP1
4 PAN out 2     to    5x2 INP2
4 PAN out 3     to    5x2 INP3
4 PAN out 4     to    5x2 INP4
TRM out 1       to    5x2 INP5
5x2 out 1       to    LEFT OUTPUT
5x2 out 2       to    RIGHT OUTPUT
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Paramiter settings:

COMPRESSOR
Ratio  =  2:1        Personal preferance more than anything. Use what
Thresh  =  -40       you are comfortable with.
Lvl  =  0 db

DISTORTION
Clean Tube
Gain = 8.0       This will depend on your guitar and preferance of
              course.

ANALOG EQ
80hz  =  +6           This is a good starting point for the EQ.  I find
                       that the
160hz = +4            5.12khz needs to be lowered for bright guitars.
                     My leslie
320hz = 0             isn't very strong above about 4Khz. And the high
                      freq.
640hz = 0             horn is spinning, so it doesn't point straight at
                       you most
1.28khz = +4          of the time.
2.56khz = +6
5.12khz = +2

MASTER VOLUME  0db   Depends on your guitar etc,etc,etc.

STEREO NOISE GATE  ???  This is your call.

-----------<< The Treble Rotor >>-----------------
MODULATED DELAY _A    ON
  Delay = .012
  Fdback = OFF
  Speed  =  1.70  (slow)  to  7.50 (fast)   <LINK to CC pedal>
  Depth  =  0.75ms
  Wvform = SINE
  Level  =  100

2x1 Mixer A
  Lev 1 =  100
  Lev 2 =  46
  Output =  100

HIGH PASS FILTER
  Freq.  =  1000hz

4 WAY AUTO PANNER  ON
  Level  =  100
  Speed =  1.70 (slow)  to  7.50 (fast)      <LINK to CC pedal>

1 BAND PARAMETRIC EQ
  Freq.  =  3150hz               This EQ simulates the increase of high
  Q = .50                        frequencies, as the rotor turns toward
  GAIN = 6db                     the listener.
  Level = 100

-------------<<The Bass Rotor>>-----------------------
MODULATED DWLAY _B   ON
  Delay  =  0.000
  Fdback = OFF
  Speed  =  1.20 (slow)  to  5.60(fast)        <LINK to CC pedal>
  Depth = 5.0ms
  Wvform = SINE
  Level = 100

2x1 Mixer _B
  Lev 1 = 100
  Lev 2 = 19
  Output = 100

Low Pass Filter
  Freq. = 1250hz

MONO TREMOLO     ON
  Speed =  1.20 (slow)  to  5.60 (fast)        <LINK to CC pedal>
  Depth = 4
  Level = 100     Ideally this module should
                  have been a 4 Way Panner connected with an EQ on
                  on output 1, like we've done for the treble
                  rotor, but it won't fit on 1 S-Disk, so this
                  is the trade off. Bass is less directional
                  anyway.  Play with the Depth if you like,
                  but you don't want too much.

5x2 Mixer
  Lev 1 = 100    PAN = 0           Lev 1 thru 4 control the spin
                                   illusion for
  Lev 2 = 100    PAN = +23         the high freq. rotor.  Adjust PAN 2
                                   and
  Lev 3 = 95     PAN = 0           PAN 4 to change the width of this
                               effect.
  Lev 4 = 100    PAN =  -23
  Lev 5 = 100    PAN = 0
  LEFT   Output = 100
  RIGHT Output = 100

WET/DRY MIX                        DRY =30     WET = 70
Experiment with the mix to find what you like. I have mine hooked up to
my External CC pedal.
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This patch is tweeked to work with my Gretsch 6119 (filtertron pickups)
and my Ric 370-12 and it works pretty well with them. Neither of which
has hot pickups. My PRS tends to drive this this too hard and too much
distortion makes this sound less like a Leslie. I spent alot of time
dialing this patch in to my guitars, so I'm a little worried about how
this will sound one someone else's system. If you try it, drop me an
Email to let me know how it works out.
Best Regards,
PBAKER
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At 08:25 AM 6/23/03 -0500, you wrote:




>anybody got a decent sounding Leslie patch?  I am trying to emulate the
>guitar sound in U2's "ONE".  Thanks in advance.
>
>Ryan
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