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Hello Dieter:

My 2101 is from 8/94 and has version 1.06.06 (is that bad??).  My distortion 
level seems to vary.  For example, on the factory preset # 48 Gilrock Swirl 
(on mine at least ... I don't have the "Artist" upgrade) when I switch on the 
channel sometimes the distortion doesn't sound heavy.  If I switch up a 
channel and down again, it gets heavier.  Sometimes it takes a few "switches" 
to get the full distortion.  I unplugged the 2101 foot controller to make 
sure that was not doing this.  I swapped out the original tubes for some 
Grove Tubes GT12AX7Rs.  The problem still existed (it's been about a year.)  
Obviously, I haven't played it a lot, BUT I AM NOW!!!!!!  If you have any 
ideas I would really appreciate the help!!

Thanks
BLUE BANDIT #20

Hi everyone,
    I have had my digitech for about two months now and I have failed 
to get a good distortion out of it.  Some of the clean tones seem to 
distort out.  Is there something I am doing wrong.  I just replaced 
the tubes in it not to long ago. This is the equipment list that I 
use.  I have a mesa boogie 50/50 power amp, GSP 2101 with artist 
upgrade 3.0 no PPC.  I am using a gibson les paul special and a 
marshall 4X12 slant cabinet.  It seems like no matter what I do I can 
not get the tone I want.  the guy who had the 2101 before me had some 
awsome patches but I had to do a factory reset and replace the 
battery so I have since lost them.  I just want some good tone.  
Anyone got any suggestions???

Try using the XLR outputs instead of the 1/4 inch outputs and see what happens. Ofcourse, I used to plug right into an amp that had XLR inputs and I don't know if your amp has them. Believe me, I know your problem and even though the XLR jacks helped a lot, it still did not satisy me and my GSP2101 has sat there in a box for many years now almost in new condition without getting used much since it was new. It's the regular version. I have some upgrade chips but never installed them because the people that had my same complaint got no help in the distortion area from them. It's a matter of some people liking this unit's distortion and others not liking it. Oh, and you will ask a million people on forums at music stores, etc, etc, etc and it will still be almost the same. The only reason I have not sold it is because people buy it for peanuts. I don't want to give it away cheap unless someone I know personally is poor, wife died, got his leg cut off, etc. You know, REALLY down on his
 luck. OR someone give me $350 and not a penny less. I don't want to hear about ebay this and ebay that from people. I know already. Thanks.


ryan <nonpoint28376@...> wrote:Hi everyone,
    I have had my digitech for about two months now and I have failed 
to get a good distortion out of it.  Some of the clean tones seem to 
distort out.  Is there something I am doing wrong.  I just replaced 
the tubes in it not to long ago. This is the equipment list that I 
use.  I have a mesa boogie 50/50 power amp, GSP 2101 with artist 
upgrade 3.0 no PPC.  I am using a gibson les paul special and a 
marshall 4X12 slant cabinet.  It seems like no matter what I do I can 
not get the tone I want.  the guy who had the 2101 before me had some 
awsome patches but I had to do a factory reset and replace the 
battery so I have since lost them.  I just want some good tone.  
Anyone got any suggestions???


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Make sure you are not clipping the digital section by having the 
analog section too hot -- look at the LED lights next to the main 
display while you're playing.  If you get the red light often, 
you're clipping the digital section and nothing sounds worse than 
digital distortion.

Also, run the 2101's output at about 12 o'clock into your Mesa.  Any 
higher and you could be clipping the inputs of the Mesa.

Also, experiment with EQ and the various types of distortion.  I 
don't know what sort of tone you are after (blues, metal, grunge, 
etc.), but I'm pretty sure you'll find something you'll like.

I found changing out the stock 12ax7's tubes was a good move as well.

I think the primary things are to make sure your guitar is not 
clipping the 2101 and the 2101 is not clipping the Mesa.  Then it's 
in the EQ and distortion settings.

Good luck.

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "ryan" <nonpoint28376@y...> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>     I have had my digitech for about two months now and I have 
failed 
> to get a good distortion out of it.  Some of the clean tones seem 
to 
> distort out.  Is there something I am doing wrong.  I just 
replaced 
> the tubes in it not to long ago. This is the equipment list that I 
> use.  I have a mesa boogie 50/50 power amp, GSP 2101 with artist 
> upgrade 3.0 no PPC.  I am using a gibson les paul special and a 
> marshall 4X12 slant cabinet.  It seems like no matter what I do I 
can 
> not get the tone I want.  the guy who had the 2101 before me had 
some 

> awsome patches but I had to do a factory reset and replace the 
> battery so I have since lost them.  I just want some good tone.  
> Anyone got any suggestions???

how do i stop it from clipping the digital section. 
how do i make the analog section not so hot??
--- sbaalgmc <g_chabon@...> wrote:

> Make sure you are not clipping the digital section
> by having the 
> analog section too hot -- look at the LED lights
> next to the main 
> display while you're playing.  If you get the red
> light often, 
> you're clipping the digital section and nothing
> sounds worse than 
> digital distortion.
> 
> Also, run the 2101's output at about 12 o'clock into
> your Mesa.  Any 
> higher and you could be clipping the inputs of the
> Mesa.
> 
> Also, experiment with EQ and the various types of
> distortion.  I 
> don't know what sort of tone you are after (blues,
> metal, grunge, 
> etc.), but I'm pretty sure you'll find something
> you'll like.
> 
> I found changing out the stock 12ax7's tubes was a
> good move as well.
> 
> I think the primary things are to make sure your
> guitar is not 
> clipping the 2101 and the 2101 is not clipping the
> Mesa.  Then it's 
> in the EQ and distortion settings.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "ryan"
> <nonpoint28376@y...> wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >     I have had my digitech for about two months
> now and I have 
> failed 
> > to get a good distortion out of it.  Some of the
> clean tones seem 
> to 
> > distort out.  Is there something I am doing wrong.
>  I just 
> replaced 
> > the tubes in it not to long ago. This is the
> equipment list that I 
> > use.  I have a mesa boogie 50/50 power amp, GSP
> 2101 with artist 
> > upgrade 3.0 no PPC.  I am using a gibson les paul
> special and a 
> > marshall 4X12 slant cabinet.  It seems like no
> matter what I do I 
> can 
> > not get the tone I want.  the guy who had the 2101
> before me had 
> some 
> > awsome patches but I had to do a factory reset and
> replace the 
> > battery so I have since lost them.  I just want
> some good tone.  
> > Anyone got any suggestions???
> 
> 


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tap on your right and left arrows under display,  press button under MVol or (Master volume) and turn value down with your data wheel.  You can play as you do this until you stop seeing the clipping. Watch the leds in the display window.  Hope that helps.

ryan memolo <nonpoint28376@...> wrote:how do i stop it from clipping the digital section. 
how do i make the analog section not so hot??
--- sbaalgmc <g_chabon@...> wrote:

> Make sure you are not clipping the digital section
> by having the 
> analog section too hot -- look at the LED lights
> next to the main 
> display while you're playing.  If you get the red
> light often, 
> you're clipping the digital section and nothing
> sounds worse than 
> digital distortion.
> 
> Also, run the 2101's output at about 12 o'clock into
> your Mesa.  Any 
> higher and you could be clipping the inputs of the
> Mesa.
> 
> Also, experiment with EQ and the various types of
> distortion.  I 
> don't know what sort of tone you are after (blues,
> metal, grunge, 
> etc.), but I'm pretty sure you'll find something
> you'll like.
> 
> I found changing out the stock 12ax7's tubes was a
> good move as well.
> 
> I think the primary things are to make sure your
> guitar is not 
> clipping the 2101 and the 2101 is not clipping the
> Mesa.  Then it's 
> in the EQ and distortion settings.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "ryan"
> <nonpoint28376@y...> wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >     I have had my digitech for about two months
> now and I have 
> failed 
> > to get a good distortion out of it.  Some of the
> clean tones seem 
> to 
> > distort out.  Is there something I am doing wrong.
>  I just 
> replaced 
> > the tubes in it not to long ago. This is the
> equipment list that I 
> > use.  I have a mesa boogie 50/50 power amp, GSP
> 2101 with artist 
> > upgrade 3.0 no PPC.  I am using a gibson les paul
> special and a 
> > marshall 4X12 slant cabinet.  It seems like no
> matter what I do I 
> can 
> > not get the tone I want.  the guy who had the 2101
> before me had 
> some 
> > awsome patches but I had to do a factory reset and
> replace the 
> > battery so I have since lost them.  I just want
> some good tone.  
> > Anyone got any suggestions???
> 
> 


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Just to recap on my last post. The only way I got rid of that lousy "fuzz" sound from every single darn distortion setting was to run out from the XLR jacks on the back of the GSP2101 into an amp that has XLR inputs. I still wasn't happy with the results but it cleaned it up big time. Try that if all other suggestions don't work. 


jason stanley <jsnstanley@...> wrote:tap on your right and left arrows under display,  press button under MVol or (Master volume) and turn value down with your data wheel.  You can play as you do this until you stop seeing the clipping. Watch the leds in the display window.  Hope that helps.

ryan memolo <nonpoint28376@...> wrote: how do i stop it from clipping the digital section. 
how do i make the analog section not so hot??
--- sbaalgmc <g_chabon@...> wrote:

> Make sure you are not clipping the digital section
> by having the 
> analog section too hot -- look at the LED lights
> next to the main 
> display while you're playing.  If you get the red
> light often, 
> you're clipping the digital section and nothing
> sounds worse than 
> digital distortion.
> 
> Also, run the 2101's output at about 12 o'clock into
> your Mesa.  Any 
> higher and you could be clipping the inputs of the
> Mesa.
> 
> Also, experiment with EQ and the various types of
> distortion.  I 
> don't know what sort of tone you are after (blues,
> metal, grunge, 
> etc.), but I'm pretty sure you'll find something
> you'll like.
> 
> I found changing out the stock 12ax7's tubes was a
> good move as well.
> 
> I think the primary things are to make sure your
> guitar is not 
> clipping the 2101 and the 2101 is not clipping the
> Mesa.  Then it's 
> in the EQ and distortion settings.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "ryan"
> <nonpoint28376@y...> wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >     I have had my digitech for about two months
> now and I have 
> failed 
> > to get a good distortion out of it.  Some of the
> clean tones seem 
> to 
> > distort out.  Is there something I am doing wrong.
>  I just 
> replaced 
> > the tubes in it not to long ago. This is the
> equipment list that I 
> > use.  I have a mesa boogie 50/50 power amp, GSP
> 2101 with artist 
> > upgrade 3.0 no PPC.  I am using a gibson les paul
> special and a 
> > marshall 4X12 slant cabinet.  It seems like no
> matter what I do I 
> can 
> > not get the tone I want.  the guy who had the 2101
> before me had 
> some 
> > awsome patches but I had to do a factory reset and
> replace the 
> > battery so I have since lost them.  I just want
> some good tone.  
> > Anyone got any suggestions???
> 
> 


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