Yes- capacitors.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Williams" <garynwilliams@...>
To: <gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 1:34 AM
Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: 2101: Memory problem
> Hey Dieter, by caps do you mean capacitors?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary
>
> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 10:03:42 +0100
> From: "Dieter Waechter" <pirat28@...>
> Subject: Re: 2101: Memory problem
>
> This is another problem... the caps become dry over the years.
> You must meassure the hum- value (on the supply- voltages) ... and change
> the caps.
>
> Dieter
>
>
>
>
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> 1. Re: 2101: Memory problem
> From: "Dieter Waechter" <pirat28@...>
> 2. Re: Control One questions
> From: "Dieter Waechter" <pirat28@...>
> 3. Re: 2101: Memory problem
> From: "Dieter Waechter" <pirat28@...>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 10:01:32 +0100
> From: "Dieter Waechter" <pirat28@...>
> Subject: Re: 2101: Memory problem
>
> if that doesn't help change the RAM... you'll find it right to the
> EPROMS....
>
> Dieter
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marty McConnell" <martym@...>
> To: "Digitech 2101 List" <2101@...-dod.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 4:57 PM
> Subject: Re: 2101: Memory problem
>
>
> > Thanks Mark,
> > I didn't think of that. It's probably very likely that's the case.
The
> electronics
> > get warmed up and cooled quite often and with my ADA and Mesa 50/50 in
> the
> same
> > case, there's quite a bit of heat generated. The memories are fine for
a
> while, so
> > I think I'll take a look at the sockets. I've had plenty of experience
> with a
> > soldering iron. I'll try that this weekend.
> >
> > Alexandre,
> > I'll keep that in mind. I don't know when I might get a Triaxis, and
the
> longer I
> > can keep the 2101 hobbling along, the better chance I'll have of just
> going and
> > buying a G-Force or something like that too.
> >
> > Marty
> >
> > Mark Bratcher wrote:
> >
> > > Marty,
> > >
> > > A common problem in electronics is a case in which solder joints form
> fine,
> > > hairline cracks which then behave intermittently, often depending
upon
> whether
> > > the circuit is warmed up. (You can't see the cracks except with a
> magnifier.)
> > > This is particularly the case for areas of a circuit that get warm,
> such
> as the
> > > area in the GSP-2101 at or around the three power transistors.
> > >
> > > What I'd suggest is that perhaps the memory (DRAM) is OK, but just
> needs
> to have
> > > the solder reflowed. You (or someone you trust with a soldering iron)
> should
> > > reheat each solder joint for the DRAM just to reflow it and that may
> cure the
> > > problem. Although it's probably tedious to do so, I'd also do the
SRAM
> (U74) and
> > > the power transistors.
> > >
> > > I did this operation on an old RP-1 that I had as it would sometimes
> behave very
> > > erratically and it cleared up the problem. Even made an LED work that
> was
> > > previously failing.
> > >
> > > I don't think the memory is bad since I believe if it were bad, then
it
> would
> > > consistently not work.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mark Bratcher
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > > Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!
> > >
> > > Marty McConnell wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey guys,
> > > > I thought I'd see if anyone here know of this problem. Recently my
> 2101
> > > > (LE w/ Artist upgrade) started freaking out upon power up. I could
> > > > switch through the presets from 100 - 250, but couldn't access any
of
> > > > the user presets (the foot controller wouldn't work either -- I use
> the
> > > > Johnson J12 controller). And when I turned the wheel to my user
> > > > settings, I would get some kind of "unknown parameter" error (not
> sure
> > > > of the exact error - I'm at work right now and don't have my 2101
> > > > handy). The only thing I can do is a factory reset. It's like the
> user
> > > > memory was getting corrupted. I replaced the back up battery just
a
> few
> > > > weeks ago and everything seemed fine, 'til last night. The night
> before
> > > > I was jamming with some guys, and it worked like a champ, then I
left
> it
> > > > out in my car all night (in my garage) and last night at band
> practice,
> > > > it freaked on me again. It took an hour before I could even do a
> > > > factory reset. I couldn't get the utility button to engage those
> > > > options.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone had memory chip problems or replaced the user memory
ever.
> I
> > > > can't believe some mild cold would cause this thing to act like
that.
> > > > I'm about ready to say "good bye 2101... hello Mesa Triaxis!!"
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any help...
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Marty McConnell
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Marty McConnell
> >
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 09:59:27 +0100
> From: "Dieter Waechter" <pirat28@...>
> Subject: Re: Control One questions
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Maarten van Helden
> To: 2120@...-dod.com ; 2101@...-dod.com
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 3:04 PM
> Subject: 2101: Control One questions
>
>
> Short questions for those who know (Dieter?):
>
> 1. Does anyone know what type of switches the C1 uses?. Are they
> momentary or latching.
>
> Yes- they are momentary and type is 4x11.5x11.5 mm 4 pin- button
>
> 2. Could these (with some mods ofcourse) be replaced with a "real"
> stompswitch. Like the switches you see on the J12, Ground Control Pro, All
> Access, Bradshaw? If so which type? SPST? Any chance of using a
stompswitch
> that "clicks", instead of the "clickless" one in the J12.
>
> yes - but you need another housing for the FC1
>
> 3. How does the internal expression pedal work? Just like a volume
pedal
> with a pot, or is it light responsive?
>
> No- there is a LED mounted on the pedal. and an photo transistior an
the
> board... when you press the pedal forward, the LED moves nearer to the
> transistor. The value is read out by the INTEL- processor.
> I'll soon will write an FC1- upgrade page... Software and so on...
>
>
>
>
> THANX GUYZ.
>
> Maarten
>
> ps I'm trying to figure out if I can improve the C1.
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 10:03:42 +0100
> From: "Dieter Waechter" <pirat28@...>
> Subject: Re: 2101: Memory problem
>
> This is another problem... the caps become dry over the years.
> You must meassure the hum- value (on the supply- voltages) ... and change
> the caps.
>
> Dieter
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pessimist" <pess666@...>
> To: "Marty McConnell" <martym@...>; <2101@...-dod.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 5:55 PM
> Subject: Re: 2101: Memory problem
>
>
> > Someone mentioned cold being a problem -- have experienced this twice
(of
> > course at a gig) upon power up, the 2101 unable to pass signal for
almost
> 1
> > hour. -- was not having the display problems you mentioned though, and
> was
> > fine once the unit warmed up (had to borrow gear for the gig). Upon
> sending
> > it to the factory, it checked out fine --
> >
> > Just for the record, I put the 2101 to the test vs. the
> Triaxis.....needless
> > to say I still prefer the 2101 -- then again, I prefer the grunge dist.
> > settings over the tube tones....triaxis didn't have enough gain, until
> you
> > turn it up then it gets too muddy....a bit pricey too at $1400.
> >
> >
> > --
> > PESSIMIST
> > http://www.pessimist.com
> >
> >
> > > From: Marty McConnell <martym@...>
> > > Reply-To: Marty McConnell <martym@...>
> > > Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 09:57:38 -0600
> > > To: Digitech 2101 List <2101@...-dod.com>
> > > Subject: Re: 2101: Memory problem
> > >
> > > Thanks Mark,
> > > I didn't think of that. It's probably very likely that's the case.
> The
> > > electronics
> > > get warmed up and cooled quite often and with my ADA and Mesa 50/50
in
> the
> > > same
> > > case, there's quite a bit of heat generated. The memories are fine
for
> a
> > > while, so
> > > I think I'll take a look at the sockets. I've had plenty of
experience
> with a
> > > soldering iron. I'll try that this weekend.
> > >
> > > Alexandre,
> > > I'll keep that in mind. I don't know when I might get a Triaxis, and
> the
> > > longer I
> > > can keep the 2101 hobbling along, the better chance I'll have of just
> going
> > > and
> > > buying a G-Force or something like that too.
> > >
> > > Marty
> > >
> > > Mark Bratcher wrote:
> > >
> > >> Marty,
> > >>
> > >> A common problem in electronics is a case in which solder joints
form
> fine,
> > >> hairline cracks which then behave intermittently, often depending
upon
> > >> whether
> > >> the circuit is warmed up. (You can't see the cracks except with a
> magnifier.)
> > >> This is particularly the case for areas of a circuit that get warm,
> such as
> > >> the
> > >> area in the GSP-2101 at or around the three power transistors.
> > >>
> > >> What I'd suggest is that perhaps the memory (DRAM) is OK, but just
> needs to
> > >> have
> > >> the solder reflowed. You (or someone you trust with a soldering
iron)
> should
> > >> reheat each solder joint for the DRAM just to reflow it and that may
> cure the
> > >> problem. Although it's probably tedious to do so, I'd also do the
SRAM
> (U74)
> > >> and
> > >> the power transistors.
> > >>
> > >> I did this operation on an old RP-1 that I had as it would sometimes
> behave
> > >> very
> > >> erratically and it cleared up the problem. Even made an LED work
that
> was
> > >> previously failing.
> > >>
> > >> I don't think the memory is bad since I believe if it were bad, then
> it
> would
> > >> consistently not work.
> > >>
> > >> Mark
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Mark Bratcher
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >> Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!
> > >>
> > >> Marty McConnell wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hey guys,
> > >>> I thought I'd see if anyone here know of this problem. Recently my
> 2101
> > >>> (LE w/ Artist upgrade) started freaking out upon power up. I could
> > >>> switch through the presets from 100 - 250, but couldn't access any
of
> > >>> the user presets (the foot controller wouldn't work either -- I use
> the
> > >>> Johnson J12 controller). And when I turned the wheel to my user
> > >>> settings, I would get some kind of "unknown parameter" error (not
> sure
> > >>> of the exact error - I'm at work right now and don't have my 2101
> > >>> handy). The only thing I can do is a factory reset. It's like the
> user
> > >>> memory was getting corrupted. I replaced the back up battery just
a
> few
> > >>> weeks ago and everything seemed fine, 'til last night. The night
> before
> > >>> I was jamming with some guys, and it worked like a champ, then I
left
> it
> > >>> out in my car all night (in my garage) and last night at band
> practice,
> > >>> it freaked on me again. It took an hour before I could even do a
> > >>> factory reset. I couldn't get the utility button to engage those
> > >>> options.
> > >>>
> > >>> Has anyone had memory chip problems or replaced the user memory
ever.
> I
> > >>> can't believe some mild cold would cause this thing to act like
that.
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> > >>> I'm about ready to say "good bye 2101... hello Mesa Triaxis!!"
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for any help...
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Marty McConnell
> > >>>
> > >
> > > --
> > > Marty McConnell
> > >
> > >
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