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The problem Digitech GSP 2101

The problem Digitech GSP 2101

2008-08-03 by gil bert

Hi,
I have an Digitech GSP 2101.
The level of sound is not stable, it is low after a few minutes, it then becomes normal and is weak again.
I cannot any more use it because this problem.
The EPROM version installed in my GS¨2101 is : 1.03.02
Is hasn't the PPC-210.

Please help !!!

RE: [gsp-2101] The problem Digitech GSP 2101

2008-08-03 by M M

Is it the volume knob/pot? Try spraying some deoxit or contact cleaner in the pot and/or input jack.

"Soaking up the cathode rays"


To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: fanstrat77@...
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:55:39 -0700
Subject: [gsp-2101] The problem Digitech GSP 2101

Hi,
I have an Digitech GSP 2101.
The level of sound is not stable, it is low after a few minutes, it then becomes normal and is weak again.
I cannot any more use it because this problem.
The EPROM version installed in my GS¨2101 is : 1.03.02
Is hasn't the PPC-210.

Please help !!!



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RE: [gsp-2101] The problem Digitech GSP 2101

2008-08-03 by Glenn Warner 3rd

I was going to say at that age of a 2101, did you check the tubes? If you go with new tubes, stay away from cheap crappy chinese tubes like groove tubes, and others. Go to www.eurotubes.com and check their website. I put a pair of JJ tubes, high gain option in my 2101 and those tubes are THE BEST I have ever heard. There is also some maintenance info on the website that might help. The info might help you identify if your tubes are bad or going bad.


Regards,
Glenn





To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: fanstrat77@...
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:55:39 -0700
Subject: [gsp-2101] The problem Digitech GSP 2101


Hi,
I have an Digitech GSP 2101.
The level of sound is not stable, it is low after a few minutes, it then becomes normal and is weak again.
I cannot any more use it because this problem.
The EPROM version installed in my GS¨2101 is : 1.03.02
Is hasn't the PPC-210.

Please help !!!



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Re: [gsp-2101] The problem Digitech GSP 2101

2008-08-03 by Dieter Waechter

Glenn,
Groove Tubes (12AX7A) are chinese made Chuguang tubes (and other "cheap" 
tubes) with Groove Tubes branding since some time.
The chinese tubes work well for the 2101.
I can't recommend groove tubes because if you order you don't know which 
manufacturer (ans series) you'll get. So you better should order directly 
from the manufacturers and not from re-branders like groove tubes or tube 
amp doctor.
You should get some with short anodes to have low microphonic effects.The 
brand doesn't matter, but the adjustment after tube replacement should be 
done carefully.

Moreover the problem:
"The level of sound is not stable, it is low after a few minutes, it then 
becomes normal and is weak again."
doesn't seem to be caused by the tubes.
This very common failure is caused by the LDR-optocouplers in the preamp 
stage.
The problem is that the OCs are sold out long time.
I haven't found a replacement, yet.
If someone knows a source I would be happy if he drops me a line.

Thanks
Dieter
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Glenn Warner 3rd
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:33 PM
Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] The problem Digitech GSP 2101


I was going to say at that age of a 2101, did you check the tubes? If you go 
with new tubes, stay away from cheap crappy chinese tubes like groove tubes, 
and others. Go to www.eurotubes.com and check their website. I put a pair of 
JJ tubes, high gain option in my 2101 and those tubes are THE BEST I have 
ever heard. There is also some maintenance info on the website that might 
help. The info might help you identify if your tubes are bad or going bad.


Regards,
Glenn

To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: fanstrat77@...
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:55:39 -0700
Subject: [gsp-2101] The problem Digitech GSP 2101



Hi,

I have an Digitech GSP 2101.
The level of sound is not stable, it is low after a few minutes, it then 
becomes normal and is weak again.
I cannot any more use it because this problem.
The EPROM version installed in my GS\ufffd2101 is : 1.03.02
Is hasn't the PPC-210.

Please help !!!

RE: [gsp-2101] The problem Digitech GSP 2101

2008-08-03 by Glenn Warner 3rd

Thanks Dieter, I was only guessing. You're also right about the groove tube lots can be different. But I have to stick to my guns on the tubes, I have used many different kinds of 12ax7's and 6l6's (in my power amp) and found the JJ's to be the best so far. Microphonics are super low and the power tubes have GREAT response, with a crisp defined bottom with sparkling midrange.

On the other hand Dieter, I need to see you on purchasing upgrades for my 2101. I have only the single s-disc and version 2.0 eeprom. Can I upgrade one at a time or do I have to do both s-disc and eeprom simotaneously? Let me know, thanks for helping the other user in this group!

Glenn





To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
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From: dieter@...
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:26:05 +0200
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] The problem Digitech GSP 2101


Glenn,
Groove Tubes (12AX7A) are chinese made Chuguang tubes (and other "cheap"
tubes) with Groove Tubes branding since some time.
The chinese tubes work well for the 2101.
I can't recommend groove tubes because if you order you don't know which
manufacturer (ans series) you'll get. So you better should order directly
from the manufacturers and not from re-branders like groove tubes or tube
amp doctor.
You should get some with short anodes to have low microphonic effects.The
brand doesn't matter, but the adjustment after tube replacement should be
done carefully.

Moreover the problem:
"The level of sound is not stable, it is low after a few minutes, it then
becomes normal and is weak again."
doesn't seem to be caused by the tubes.
This very common failure is caused by the LDR-optocouplers in the preamp
stage.
The problem is that the OCs are sold out long time.
I haven't found a replacement, yet.
If someone knows a source I would be happy if he drops me a line.

Thanks
Dieter

----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn Warner 3rd
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:33 PM
Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] The problem Digitech GSP 2101

I was going to say at that age of a 2101, did you check the tubes? If you go
with new tubes, stay away from cheap crappy chinese tubes like groove tubes,
and others. Go to www.eurotubes.com and check their website. I put a pair of
JJ tubes, high gain option in my 2101 and those tubes are THE BEST I have
ever heard. There is also some maintenance info on the website that might
help. The info might help you identify if your tubes are bad or going bad.

Regards,
Glenn

To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: fanstrat77@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:55:39 -0700
Subject: [gsp-2101] The problem Digitech GSP 2101

Hi,

I have an Digitech GSP 2101.
The level of sound is not stable, it is low after a few minutes, it then
becomes normal and is weak again.
I cannot any more use it because this problem.
The EPROM version installed in my GS¨2101 is : 1.03.02
Is hasn't the PPC-210.

Please help !!!



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Re: [gsp-2101] The problem Digitech GSP 2101

2008-08-03 by Dieter Waechter

Hi!

Yes!
You can upgrade to 3.00.00.a (The latest Artist Version)
You also can upgrade with the PPC210.
You'll find the details here:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZchronotronix
No, you dont need to upgrade simultaneously. Can be done one by one.
Dieter

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On the other hand Dieter, I need to see you on purchasing upgrades for my 
2101. I have only the single s-disc and version 2.0 eeprom. Can I upgrade 
one at a time or do I have to do both s-disc and eeprom simotaneously? Let 
me know, thanks for helping the other user in this group!

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