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Wave Analyzer Program Available.

Wave Analyzer Program Available.

2004-05-03 by Les

The first version of the Wave Analyzer program is finished. You can 
download it from the Files section.

To run the program you will need to have Win98 or up. Also you will 
need to have the .Net runtime installed as well as the DirectX 9 
runtime installed. You can find them both here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=262d25e3-
f589-4842-8157-034d1e7cf3a3&DisplayLang=en

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=141d5f9e-
07c1-462a-baef-5eab5c851cf5&displaylang=en

Watch the line wrapping.

In addition, you will need to have a soundcard capable of playing 
back wave files as well as outputing MIDI data.

I will try to write up more thorough set of instructions later.

This first version is really a beta version, so there's apt to be 
some bugs here and there. Let me know if you run across any, and any 
comments or suggestions you may have.

Thanks, and Happy Resynthesizing!

Re: [k5synth] Wave Analyzer Program Available.

2004-05-03 by Antoine Deschênes

Or if you don't want to download 35MB(DX9 + .NET) if you have dialup,
you can use Overtone(Can analyse SoundVision SMP files and extract DDA 
envelope)
and Sound Forge 4.5(Can convert any files it supports to SampleVision 
SMP files).

If someone want more details on this, ask me.
Remember you will need DOS(Win98 SE max or a DOS bootdisk) with anything 
MPU401 compatible(or you can use the serial port).


jabberdabber@... a écrit:

> The first version of the Wave Analyzer program is finished. You can
> download it from the Files section.
>
> To run the program you will need to have Win98 or up. Also you will
> need to have the .Net runtime installed as well as the DirectX 9
> runtime installed. You can find them both here:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=262d25e3-
> f589-4842-8157-034d1e7cf3a3&DisplayLang=en
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=141d5f9e-
> 07c1-462a-baef-5eab5c851cf5&displaylang=en
>
> Watch the line wrapping.
>
> In addition, you will need to have a soundcard capable of playing
> back wave files as well as outputing MIDI data.
>
> I will try to write up more thorough set of instructions later.
>
> This first version is really a beta version, so there's apt to be
> some bugs here and there. Let me know if you run across any, and any
> comments or suggestions you may have.
>
> Thanks, and Happy Resynthesizing!
>
>
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Re: Wave Analyzer Program Available.

2004-05-03 by Les

--- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, Antoine Deschênes <antdes45@n...> 
wrote:
> Or if you don't want to download 35MB(DX9 + .NET) 

Yeah, that's a pretty hefty download. I definitely understand 
that! :-) And I understand it's asking quite a lot for users who 
don't already have it on their system to d/l it. 

A coupla points, I'm pretty much married to C#/.Net right now, which 
is why I chose to use it to write the application. I've also written 
a lot of tools in the past, MIDI libraries, DSP algorithms , etc., 
in C#, so to write this app, it was almost just a matter of putting 
it all together. Fairly easy.

Having said that, I can understand anyone being wary of 
downloading .Net + DirectX 9 just to use my program. In fact, I have 
considered rewriting it using just C and the low-level Windows API. 
That would mean that almost anyone with Windows could use it, no 
need for any runtime, or whatever, if I do that, and it's a big IF, 
it's weeks and weeks away. In the meantime, I hope this program will 
find some use.

> if you have dialup,
> you can use Overtone(Can analyse SoundVision SMP files and extract 
DDA 
> envelope)

Sounds cool. Are you talking about the overall amplitude envelope? 
How exactly is it extracted?

What I would love to do is somehow use the envelopes for controlling 
the individual partials in my program. But here's the thing, it 
would be easy enough to analyze the waveform at several points and 
use that to form a composite few of how the amplitude of the 
partials change over time. But then how do you make the K5's 
envelopes correspond to those values? That's the question I have.

Re: [k5synth] Re: Wave Analyzer Program Available.

2004-05-04 by Antoine Deschênes

Sounds cool. Are you talking about the overall amplitude envelope?
How exactly is it extracted?

I wrote how amplitude works directly to your mailbox. In case you 
haven't received it, here's a copy:

Have you found how to get out the amplitude envelope from the files?
I found out how to analyse files in Overtone and will tell you in brief 
how it works:
It puts the file's DDA in a graph and you place 8 dots on it.
1st to 5th unreleased note
6th - 7th note release.
5th dot is to show loop end or something like this if I read the 
manual(I found it!) correctly.

I will scan the pages talking about it but currently the manual's at my 
father's house. Maybe I'll get it tonight.


jabberdabber@... a écrit:

> --- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, Antoine Deschênes <antdes45@n...>
> wrote:
> > Or if you don't want to download 35MB(DX9 + .NET)
>
> Yeah, that's a pretty hefty download. I definitely understand
> that! :-) And I understand it's asking quite a lot for users who
> don't already have it on their system to d/l it.
>
> A coupla points, I'm pretty much married to C#/.Net right now, which
> is why I chose to use it to write the application. I've also written
> a lot of tools in the past, MIDI libraries, DSP algorithms , etc.,
> in C#, so to write this app, it was almost just a matter of putting
> it all together. Fairly easy.
>
> Having said that, I can understand anyone being wary of
> downloading .Net + DirectX 9 just to use my program. In fact, I have
> considered rewriting it using just C and the low-level Windows API.
> That would mean that almost anyone with Windows could use it, no
> need for any runtime, or whatever, if I do that, and it's a big IF,
> it's weeks and weeks away. In the meantime, I hope this program will
> find some use.
>
> > if you have dialup,
> > you can use Overtone(Can analyse SoundVision SMP files and extract
> DDA
> > envelope)
>
> Sounds cool. Are you talking about the overall amplitude envelope?
> How exactly is it extracted?
>
> What I would love to do is somehow use the envelopes for controlling
> the individual partials in my program. But here's the thing, it
> would be easy enough to analyze the waveform at several points and
> use that to form a composite few of how the amplitude of the
> partials change over time. But then how do you make the K5's
> envelopes correspond to those values? That's the question I have.
>
>
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Re: [k5synth] Wave Analyzer Program Available.

2004-06-12 by jbrave

Antoine,
First of all, I think we need to give a big hand to Les for taking his time and energy to help support our user community. Yes, .Net is a huge download, which I'm trying to figure out how to schedule, over my < 28.8 modem, but I am super appreciative of his effort, and am looking forward to using his program, and seeing how it develops.
We have a real opportunity here with all the tools that we have now, to push the edges of what this synthesizer is capable of.
I also appreciate your effort in offering to help with Overtone. If you have any clues on making Overtone work or configuring it, let me know, because It isn't working for me (win 98).
One thing is for sure - when a synthesizer is discontinued by the manufacturer, its life has just begun!
Joel
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Or if you don't want to download 35MB(DX9 + .NET) if you have dialup,
you can use Overtone(Can analyse SoundVision SMP files and extract DDA envelope)
and Sound Forge 4.5(Can convert any files it supports to SampleVision SMP files).

If someone want more details on this, ask me.
Remember you will need DOS(Win98 SE max or a DOS bootdisk) with anything MPU401 compatible(or you can use the serial port).


jabberdabber@... a écrit:
The first version of the Wave Analyzer program is finished. You can
download it from the Files section.

To run the program you will need to have Win98 or up. Also you will
need to have the .Net runtime installed as well as the DirectX 9
runtime installed. You can find them both here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=262d25e3-
f589-4842-8157-034d1e7cf3a3&DisplayLang=en

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=141d5f9e-
07c1-462a-baef-5eab5c851cf5&displaylang=en

Watch the line wrapping.

In addition, you will need to have a soundcard capable of playing
back wave files as well as outputing MIDI data.

I will try to write up more thorough set of instructions later.

This first version is really a beta version, so there's apt to be
some bugs here and there. Let me know if you run across any, and any
comments or suggestions you may have.

Thanks, and Happy Resynthesizing!




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