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Great! I've been looking forward to K3 wave #30!

Joel


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From: "Les" <jabberdabber@...>
To: <k5synth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:04 PM
Subject: [k5synth] New Files


> I've uploaded two new standard MIDI files with sysex data for the 
> K5. One is the K3 waveforms resynthesized for the K5. This new 
> version includes all but the user and noise waveforms. The second is 
> the Korg DW8000 waveforms resynthesized for the K5. This includes 
> all 16 waveforms from the DW8000.
> 
> The files are in the patches section in the folder labled with my 
> name.
> 
> The harmonic spectrum for all of the patches were created with my 
> wave analyzer program. As I keep polishing it, I will probably 
> upload more file examples of resynthesized waveforms. Eventually, of 
> course, I'll upload the program itself so you all can play with it.
> 
> In the meantime, does anyone have any wave files they would like 
> analyzed? They will have to be in mono and feature a single note 
> being played on an instrument. 
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Maybe a piano that sound less bad than the ones that are in the default patches?(Like the SoundFont ones)

"Les" <jabberdabber@...> wrote:

>I've uploaded two new standard MIDI files with sysex data for the 
>K5. One is the K3 waveforms resynthesized for the K5. This new 
>version includes all but the user and noise waveforms. The second is 
>the Korg DW8000 waveforms resynthesized for the K5. This includes 
>all 16 waveforms from the DW8000.
>
>The files are in the patches section in the folder labled with my 
>name.
>
>The harmonic spectrum for all of the patches were created with my 
>wave analyzer program. As I keep polishing it, I will probably 
>upload more file examples of resynthesized waveforms. Eventually, of 
>course, I'll upload the program itself so you all can play with it.
>
>In the meantime, does anyone have any wave files they would like 
>analyzed? They will have to be in mono and feature a single note 
>being played on an instrument. 
>
>


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Hi,
I've never loaded patches using Sysex before, so I wanted some info 
before potentially erasing anything on the K5:

- To load, you have to open the .mid file in the sequencer, run it, 
and that's it?
- To which bank in the K5 does it load the patch? SIA-1 by default? 
(Dr. T's and K5 Pro load to SID-12, I think) What about if the Sysex 
info has more than one patch, say a whole bank?

Thanks!


 In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, "Les" <jabberdabber@h...> wrote:
> I've uploaded two new standard MIDI files with sysex data for the 
> K5. One is the K3 waveforms resynthesized for the K5. This new 
> version includes all but the user and noise waveforms. The second 
is 
> the Korg DW8000 waveforms resynthesized for the K5. This includes 
> all 16 waveforms from the DW8000.
> 
> The files are in the patches section in the folder labled with my 
> name.
> 
> The harmonic spectrum for all of the patches were created with my 
> wave analyzer program. As I keep polishing it, I will probably 
> upload more file examples of resynthesized waveforms. Eventually, 
of 

> course, I'll upload the program itself so you all can play with it.
> 
> In the meantime, does anyone have any wave files they would like 
> analyzed? They will have to be in mono and feature a single note 
> being played on an instrument.

--- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, "ohsinairam" <ohsinairam@y...> wrote:
> Hi,
> I've never loaded patches using Sysex before, so I wanted some 
info 
> before potentially erasing anything on the K5:
> 
> - To load, you have to open the .mid file in the sequencer, run 
it, 
> and that's it?

Yup. You need to make sure the K5 is set up to receive system 
exclusive messages. This can be done via the MIDI menu.

> - To which bank in the K5 does it load the patch? SIA-1 by 
default? 

No, unfortunately. The patch number is part of the sysex data 
itself. So if I sent patch SIA-11, for example, to my sequencer as a 
system exclusive message and later sent the message back to the K5, 
it would save it to SIA-11. 

If you know how to edit the system exclusive data, some sequencers 
let you do this, and you know which byte to change, you can change 
the patch number at the sequencer before sending the message to the 
K5.

One thing I should point out, the MIDI files I've uploaded with 
multiple patches, such as the K3 and DW8000 waveform files, have 
multiple single patches saved as system exclusive data. I spread 
these messages out about a measure or so from one another. If you 
set up your K5 to receive sysex data and play one of these MIDI 
files to the end, it will overwrite many of the existing patches you 
have in memory. So make sure you have any patches you want to keep 
backed up before playing one of these files with your sequencer.

--- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, "Les" <jabberdabber@h...> wrote:
> --- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, "ohsinairam" <ohsinairam@y...> 
wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I've never loaded patches using Sysex before, so I wanted some 
> info 
> > before potentially erasing anything on the K5:
> > 
> > - To load, you have to open the .mid file in the sequencer, run 
> it, 
> > and that's it?
> 
> Yup. You need to make sure the K5 is set up to receive system 
> exclusive messages. This can be done via the MIDI menu.

Ok thanks, I'll try this tonight. 

> 
> > - To which bank in the K5 does it load the patch? SIA-1 by 
> default? 
> 
> No, unfortunately. The patch number is part of the sysex data 
> itself. So if I sent patch SIA-11, for example, to my sequencer as 
a 
> system exclusive message and later sent the message back to the 
K5, 
> it would save it to SIA-11. 
> 
> If you know how to edit the system exclusive data, some sequencers 
> let you do this, and you know which byte to change, you can change 
> the patch number at the sequencer before sending the message to 
the 
> K5.
> 
> One thing I should point out, the MIDI files I've uploaded with 
> multiple patches, such as the K3 and DW8000 waveform files, have 
> multiple single patches saved as system exclusive data. I spread 
> these messages out about a measure or so from one another. If you 
> set up your K5 to receive sysex data and play one of these MIDI 
> files to the end, it will overwrite many of the existing patches 
you 
> have in memory. So make sure you have any patches you want to keep 
> backed up before playing one of these files with your sequencer.

I've uploaded a new patch to the K3 Resynthesis folder as a MIDI 
file. It's called K3NEWAGE.mid. To download the patch, go here:

Files > Patch Library > Leslie Sanford > K3 Resynthesis 

It's a real spacey patch that makes heavy use of the K5's filter. 
I've also uploaded an mp3 file demonstrating the patch.

> Files > Patch Library > Leslie Sanford > K3 Resynthesis 

In addition, I've uploaded a coupla string patches, K3STRG02.mid and 
K3STRG03.mid, using the resynthesized version of the K3's resonant 
strings waveform. One has a dark sound and the other is a bit 
brighter. 

Nothing spectacular, just some solid string sounds to use as pads 
and such.

Also, I redid the K3BASS01.mid patch. I tweaked it a bit to make it 
more realistic.

--- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, "Les" <jabberdabber@h...> wrote:
> I've uploaded a new patch to the K3 Resynthesis folder as a MIDI 
> file. It's called K3NEWAGE.mid. To download the patch, go here:
> 
> Files > Patch Library > Leslie Sanford > K3 Resynthesis 
> 
> It's a real spacey patch that makes heavy use of the K5's filter. 
> I've also uploaded an mp3 file demonstrating the patch.

great sound! I wish i could send the patches intoo my k5m! I still
didn´t found out how to send midi data to it. What program do you use
for that. For me the best way to dump patches is that dr.T editor on
atari...

cheers
phono

>great sound!

Thanks!

>I wish i could send the patches intoo my k5m! I still
>didn\ufffdt found out how to send midi data to it. What program do you use
>for that. For me the best way to dump patches is that dr.T editor on
>atari...

I send the patches to my sequencer, which is the Notator program for the 
Atari ST. I save the sequence as a standard MIDI file.

To receive patches, I make sure the protect switch is turned off on the back 
of the K5. I turn the omni mode on in the MIDI section (dunno if that's 
necessary, but I do it anyway), and set the K5 to send and receive system 
exclusive messages. Then I play back the MIDI file with the saved K5 patch.

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What I used to send songs(In .mid format) to my K5 before: Windows Media 
Player. To make it able to send data to the K5, you go into control 
panel, then Multimedia/Audio options, then in default MIDI devices, you 
select your MIDI interface/External MIDI. Now, what I use is 
SoundDiver(A lot simpler).

When I told you how to configure the K5, I forgot to tell you that 
configuration resets to default when you close it. Also, you should have 
your MIDI in and out connected to your computer(And configurated in your 
program).

Also, does multi still freezes it?


sidstation@... a écrit:

> --- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, "Les" <jabberdabber@h...> wrote:
> > I've uploaded a new patch to the K3 Resynthesis folder as a MIDI
> > file. It's called K3NEWAGE.mid. To download the patch, go here:
> >
> > Files > Patch Library > Leslie Sanford > K3 Resynthesis
> >
> > It's a real spacey patch that makes heavy use of the K5's filter.
> > I've also uploaded an mp3 file demonstrating the patch.
>
> great sound! I wish i could send the patches intoo my k5m! I still
> didn´t found out how to send midi data to it. What program do you use
> for that. For me the best way to dump patches is that dr.T editor on
> atari...
>
> cheers
> phono
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Hey, thanks for the tips - i didn´t know mediaplayer is able to send
midi to an external device. I will try to send midi files later this
evening.

What did you mean by "configuration resets to default when you close
it" ... do you mean i have to stay in the k5m midi-window? i am not
sure if i did this every time..hmmm

about the Multicrashes.: I found a solution for that strange crashes.
I have a RAMcard, and when the K5m crashed, all i have to do is, turn
it back on, access the Multisection on the Card.. and everything is
fine after that. However it still crashes from time to time, and i
loose my programmings then. The best way for me is, to use dr.T
editor. Which is brilliant!

BtW: My Backlight is dark all the time now. 

phono



--- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, Antoine Deschênes <antdes45@n...> wrote:
> What I used to send songs(In .mid format) to my K5 before: Windows
Media 
> Player. To make it able to send data to the K5, you go into control 
> panel, then Multimedia/Audio options, then in default MIDI devices, you 
> select your MIDI interface/External MIDI. Now, what I use is 
> SoundDiver(A lot simpler).
> 
> When I told you how to configure the K5, I forgot to tell you that 
> configuration resets to default when you close it. Also, you should
have 
> your MIDI in and out connected to your computer(And configurated in
your 
> program).
> 
> Also, does multi still freezes it?
> 
> 
> sidstation@h... a écrit:
> 
> > --- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, "Les" <jabberdabber@h...> wrote:
> > > I've uploaded a new patch to the K3 Resynthesis folder as a MIDI
> > > file. It's called K3NEWAGE.mid. To download the patch, go here:
> > >
> > > Files > Patch Library > Leslie Sanford > K3 Resynthesis
> > >
> > > It's a real spacey patch that makes heavy use of the K5's filter.
> > > I've also uploaded an mp3 file demonstrating the patch.
> >
> > great sound! I wish i could send the patches intoo my k5m! I still
> > didn´t found out how to send midi data to it. What program do you use
> > for that. For me the best way to dump patches is that dr.T editor on
> > atari...
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> > cheers
> > phono
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ok. i managed it to transfer midi patches to my k5m. Thanks again for
the sounds. I like that vector mp3 in the files section a lot. did you
made a midi file of it?

phono


--- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, "Leslie Sanford" <jabberdabber@h...>
wrote:
> >great sound!
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> >I wish i could send the patches intoo my k5m! I still
> >didn�t found out how to send midi data to it. What program do you use
> >for that. For me the best way to dump patches is that dr.T editor on
> >atari...
> 
> I send the patches to my sequencer, which is the Notator program for
the 
> Atari ST. I save the sequence as a standard MIDI file.
> 
> To receive patches, I make sure the protect switch is turned off on
the back 
> of the K5. I turn the omni mode on in the MIDI section (dunno if that's 
> necessary, but I do it anyway), and set the K5 to send and receive
system 
> exclusive messages. Then I play back the MIDI file with the saved K5
patch.
> 
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>ok. i managed it to transfer midi patches to my k5m. Thanks again for
>the sounds. I like that vector mp3 in the files section a lot. did you
>made a midi file of it?

Unfortunately, no. I don't have the patches any more either, but it 
shouldn't be too hard to recreate. I'll put a new version together in a day 
or two. :-)

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