Kawai Synthesizers

i just joined this group having recently got a k1m
i see there have been sporadic discussions of adding filters to this
clearly an easy option is run it into the pc and use a free vst
such as classic filter
theres not that many cheap hardware options
i have just tried using a 'fat' oberheim string patch
ie a multi of it +itself one octave apart
with an alesis philtre in a set up linked to the other modfx units
(i have them all except the metavox) and got some pretty spectactular 
sounding results (with other fx as reverb on the end)
the other option is to try more dj oriented stuff like a korg kaos
pad, alesis airfx or the discontinued stanton thing with the mouse 
ball controller in it
or if you have some guitar pedals you could try it on an autowah

I'll try vst then...

on the other hand, have you got an alesis bitrman too?
I was thinking about one of these thing...
how do you judge it? is it worth the 100 and more euros they go for 
now (discontinued...)?

please consider I wouldn't buy it only to use it with k1 but also 
with others keys and synths and bass and maybe voice too...


--- In kawaisynths@...m, "dantalianalysis" 
<dantalianalysis@...> wrote:
>
> i just joined this group having recently got a k1m
> i see there have been sporadic discussions of adding filters to 
this
> clearly an easy option is run it into the pc and use a free vst
> such as classic filter
> theres not that many cheap hardware options
> i have just tried using a 'fat' oberheim string patch
> ie a multi of it +itself one octave apart
> with an alesis philtre in a set up linked to the other modfx units
> (i have them all except the metavox) and got some pretty 
spectactular 

> sounding results (with other fx as reverb on the end)
> the other option is to try more dj oriented stuff like a korg kaos
> pad, alesis airfx or the discontinued stanton thing with the mouse 
> ball controller in it
> or if you have some guitar pedals you could try it on an autowah
>

i have all the modfx bar the metavox but i picked up
most of them for 20 english quid or so as they were
being discontinued
bitrman mostly supplies distortion and ring mod
if that is the price now used its not worth it
although if you already have several modfx
then the value of one more is kind of higher
most of the fx could be achived by vst with 
sfx machine lite combined and decimator bit crusher
plugs in which are free
in theory one might be better off using the fx
section of a synth although i have never got far
that way...still an mfb lite synth is a fully
functional filter and a monophonic synth
for only 50% more than the bitrman 
given that a k1 has quite lo fi qualties to start with
the benefits of a bitrman are not so clear as for
things with 16 bit you and besides some patches in the
k1 can create these kinds of effects


--- somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou@...>
wrote:

> I'll try vst then...
> 
> on the other hand, have you got an alesis bitrman
> too?
> I was thinking about one of these thing...
> how do you judge it? is it worth the 100 and more
> euros they go for 
> now (discontinued...)?
> 
> please consider I wouldn't buy it only to use it
> with k1 but also 
> with others keys and synths and bass and maybe voice
> too...
> 
> 
> --- In kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com,
> "dantalianalysis" 
> <dantalianalysis@...> wrote:
> >
> > i just joined this group having recently got a k1m
> > i see there have been sporadic discussions of
> adding filters to 
> this
> > clearly an easy option is run it into the pc and
> use a free vst
> > such as classic filter
> > theres not that many cheap hardware options
> > i have just tried using a 'fat' oberheim string
> patch
> > ie a multi of it +itself one octave apart
> > with an alesis philtre in a set up linked to the
> other modfx units
> > (i have them all except the metavox) and got some
> pretty 
> spectactular 
> > sounding results (with other fx as reverb on the
> end)
> > the other option is to try more dj oriented stuff
> like a korg kaos
> > pad, alesis airfx or the discontinued stanton
> thing with the mouse 
> > ball controller in it
> > or if you have some guitar pedals you could try it
> on an autowah
> >
> 
> 
> 



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1)it's around 100 euro NEW, some sellers still have these! 
I wouldn't spend 100 euro for something used that costed 1/4 of that 
new! it's new, with 2 years warranty...
2)I said, I wouldn't use it just with my K1!

--- In kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com, Samuel Cameron 
<dantalianalysis@...> wrote:
>
> i have all the modfx bar the metavox but i picked up
> most of them for 20 english quid or so as they were
> being discontinued
> bitrman mostly supplies distortion and ring mod
> if that is the price now used its not worth it
> although if you already have several modfx
> then the value of one more is kind of higher
> most of the fx could be achived by vst with 
> sfx machine lite combined and decimator bit crusher
> plugs in which are free
> in theory one might be better off using the fx
> section of a synth although i have never got far
> that way...still an mfb lite synth is a fully
> functional filter and a monophonic synth
> for only 50% more than the bitrman 
> given that a k1 has quite lo fi qualties to start with
> the benefits of a bitrman are not so clear as for
> things with 16 bit you and besides some patches in the
> k1 can create these kinds of effects
> 
> 
> --- somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou@...>
> wrote:
> 
> > I'll try vst then...
> > 
> > on the other hand, have you got an alesis bitrman
> > too?
> > I was thinking about one of these thing...
> > how do you judge it? is it worth the 100 and more
> > euros they go for 
> > now (discontinued...)?
> > 
> > please consider I wouldn't buy it only to use it
> > with k1 but also 
> > with others keys and synths and bass and maybe voice
> > too...
> > 
> > 
> > --- In kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com,
> > "dantalianalysis" 
> > <dantalianalysis@> wrote:
> > >
> > > i just joined this group having recently got a k1m
> > > i see there have been sporadic discussions of
> > adding filters to 
> > this
> > > clearly an easy option is run it into the pc and
> > use a free vst
> > > such as classic filter
> > > theres not that many cheap hardware options
> > > i have just tried using a 'fat' oberheim string
> > patch
> > > ie a multi of it +itself one octave apart
> > > with an alesis philtre in a set up linked to the
> > other modfx units
> > > (i have them all except the metavox) and got some
> > pretty 
> > spectactular 
> > > sounding results (with other fx as reverb on the
> > end)
> > > the other option is to try more dj oriented stuff
> > like a korg kaos
> > > pad, alesis airfx or the discontinued stanton
> > thing with the mouse 
> > > ball controller in it
> > > or if you have some guitar pedals you could try it
> > on an autowah
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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things on websites are often not still for sale
i have known sites that claim to be selling
modfx boxes
but thats just lack of tidy housekeeping in retail
they haven't always really got them
as they expect to order them from a supplier
Sam
--- somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou@...>
wrote:

> 1)it's around 100 euro NEW, some sellers still have
> these! 
> I wouldn't spend 100 euro for something used that
> costed 1/4 of that 
> new! it's new, with 2 years warranty...
> 2)I said, I wouldn't use it just with my K1!
> 
> --- In kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com, Samuel Cameron 
> <dantalianalysis@...> wrote:
> >
> > i have all the modfx bar the metavox but i picked
> up
> > most of them for 20 english quid or so as they
> were
> > being discontinued
> > bitrman mostly supplies distortion and ring mod
> > if that is the price now used its not worth it
> > although if you already have several modfx
> > then the value of one more is kind of higher
> > most of the fx could be achived by vst with 
> > sfx machine lite combined and decimator bit
> crusher
> > plugs in which are free
> > in theory one might be better off using the fx
> > section of a synth although i have never got far
> > that way...still an mfb lite synth is a fully
> > functional filter and a monophonic synth
> > for only 50% more than the bitrman 
> > given that a k1 has quite lo fi qualties to start
> with
> > the benefits of a bitrman are not so clear as for
> > things with 16 bit you and besides some patches in
> the
> > k1 can create these kinds of effects
> > 
> > 
> > --- somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou@...>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > I'll try vst then...
> > > 
> > > on the other hand, have you got an alesis
> bitrman
> > > too?
> > > I was thinking about one of these thing...
> > > how do you judge it? is it worth the 100 and
> more
> > > euros they go for 
> > > now (discontinued...)?
> > > 
> > > please consider I wouldn't buy it only to use it
> > > with k1 but also 
> > > with others keys and synths and bass and maybe
> voice
> > > too...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com,
> > > "dantalianalysis" 
> > > <dantalianalysis@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > i just joined this group having recently got a
> k1m
> > > > i see there have been sporadic discussions of
> > > adding filters to 
> > > this
> > > > clearly an easy option is run it into the pc
> and
> > > use a free vst
> > > > such as classic filter
> > > > theres not that many cheap hardware options
> > > > i have just tried using a 'fat' oberheim
> string
> > > patch
> > > > ie a multi of it +itself one octave apart
> > > > with an alesis philtre in a set up linked to
> the
> > > other modfx units
> > > > (i have them all except the metavox) and got
> some
> > > pretty 
> > > spectactular 
> > > > sounding results (with other fx as reverb on
> the
> > > end)
> > > > the other option is to try more dj oriented
> stuff
> > > like a korg kaos
> > > > pad, alesis airfx or the discontinued stanton
> > > thing with the mouse 
> > > > ball controller in it
> > > > or if you have some guitar pedals you could
> try it
> > > on an autowah
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >      
>
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--- In kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com, "dantalianalysis" 
<dantalianalysis@...> wrote:

>
> i just joined this group having recently got a k1m
> i see there have been sporadic discussions of adding filters to this
> clearly an easy option is run it into the pc and use a free vst
> such as classic filter
> theres not that many cheap hardware options
> i have just tried using a 'fat' oberheim string patch
> ie a multi of it +itself one octave apart
> with an alesis philtre in a set up linked to the other modfx units
> (i have them all except the metavox) and got some pretty spectactular 
> sounding results (with other fx as reverb on the end)
> the other option is to try more dj oriented stuff like a korg kaos
> pad, alesis airfx or the discontinued stanton thing with the mouse 
> ball controller in it
> or if you have some guitar pedals you could try it on an autowah
>