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K1 patches gone

K1 patches gone

2017-12-13 by theolmaestro@...

Well, this is a revolting development.

Booted up the K1 practice "organ" (32-key AGO pedalboard, MIDI encoder from Sound Research - nothing fancy, but less expensive and lighter than an actual practice organ), and 80% of the patches were gone, replaced by "SINGLE K-1" or "MULTI K-1" depending on selecting [SINGLE] or [MULTI]. Cobbled together a patch I could use for practice, shut down. Today, all the patches are gone.

I did a quick search and didn't find this happening to anyone else in the group. My best guess is that the internal battery (original equipment, btw) is dead and needs replacement.

I'll order a battery anyway, and restore the defaults when time permits. Just inconvenient that it happened this close to Xmas, when home practice would be helpful.

Has anyone else had this happen? And did you refit the battery pack to take a normal 2032 cell, rather than the cell with "legs"?


Re: [kawaisynths] K1 patches gone

2017-12-14 by Daniel Forró

No backup of your precious sounds?

I think each of has has experience with such lesson :-)

Battery can keep it’s power another 20 years, so IMHO it’s not necessary to use holder. Anyway you have to solder, so if can find battery with legs, solder it. If not, use a holder.

Such thing can happen anytime with any synth...

Daniel Forro
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> On Dec 14, 2017, at 1:50, theolmaestro@... [kawaisynths] <kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Well, this is a revolting development.
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> Booted up the K1 practice "organ" (32-key AGO pedalboard, MIDI encoder from Sound Research - nothing fancy, but less expensive and lighter than an actual practice organ), and 80% of the patches were gone, replaced by "SINGLE K-1" or "MULTI K-1" depending on selecting [SINGLE] or [MULTI]. Cobbled together a patch I could use for practice, shut down. Today, all the patches are gone.
> 
> I did a quick search and didn't find this happening to anyone else in the group. My best guess is that the internal battery (original equipment, btw) is dead and needs replacement.
> 
> I'll order a battery anyway, and restore the defaults when time permits. Just inconvenient that it happened this close to Xmas, when home practice would be helpful.
> 
> Has anyone else had this happen? And did  you refit the battery pack to take a normal 2032 cell, rather than the cell with "legs"?

Re: [kawaisynths] K1 patches gone

2017-12-14 by domgoold@...

yeah, have fun with that. order a coincell holder too, because the battery is soldered
to the underside of the board, which you have to remove; ie: don't expect a 5min job.
you have to pretty much take the whole thing apart.
i'd suggest running wires from the spot, once you'd got the old battery out, to
somewhere more convenient, for next time the battery fails.

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