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Hi Logic OT,
                    Dennis and GA's words have the ring of truth about them
because they are based much more upon historical facts than mere opinions,
and, In my view go some way towards shattering the myth that all US citizens
are ignorant about the rest of the world. Many are, no doubt- but clearly
here, not all.

I would like to know what the true root cause of these European anti US
feelings are. Maybe its more to do with the resentment of US world cultural
influence (Macdonalds, hollywood movies, US music, baseball caps, rap music,
English becoming the world language etc..) than politics??

There is also the natural fear of people towards war which leads them to
passivism. Read about the events of 1933-1939 in Europe. Just about the only
politician who was giving warnings about Nazi Germany was Winston Churchill,
and he was criticised by all, including those in his own party. In 1936
no-one wanted to hear that Europe should invade Germany and depose Hitler.
Had they done so then- tens of millions of lives would have been saved.

In fact, Churchill was then viewed by many in much the same way as Bush is
now.

My fear is that Bin Laden (or someone like him) will become the Hitler of
our times, if Pakistan becomes a Taliban country, for example, he will have
access to nuclear weapons.

Imagine a hijacked 747 with a nuclear weapon as its payload?? I'd rather
not-

so I say we should stop this mad man now before he has this capabillity. I
hope it can be done without the least loss of life.

My only criticism of SOME US citizens is over their financial support of the
IRA.

I heard Bush say that after the got those responsible for the atrocity of
the 11th Sept, they would go after world terrorism in general. I hope they
do. I would like to see that include the IRA, the Loyalist paramillitary and
all the other terrorist griups in Ireland and I would like to see the arrest
of those in the US who sponsored terrorism in Northern Ireland.

Personally, I think Britain should have pulled out of Northern Ireland and
let them get on with it. I can not see either side as being right or wrong.
In fact, Catholic, Protestant- who cares?? Part of UK or part of a united
Ireland- does it really matter that much. I think these people have
forgotten what it is all about,  however, those who committed the terrorism
and those who supported it should be punished.

sorry about the rant, but at least its on the OT list. I think I'll make
some music this afternoon with Logic to calm me down
:-)

peace to all

John.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Gunn <mightyjohn@...>
To: <logic-ot@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 23 September 2001 07:54
Subject: [L-OT] Re: OT Goodbye

Dennis said etc.........