The Logic Off Topic list

>There is zero doubt that we "could" have beaten Japan without dropping the
>A-bomb.  The debate centers around at what cost that would have been.  Some
>argue that we could have blockaded the island and that they were near
>collapse and would have surrendered with "minimal" loss of life, at least
>well under the results of the atomic weapons. 

If they weren't willing to surrender even AFTER two atomic bomb attacks 
an the firebombing of Tokyo, do you really think they would just 
surrender on their own?

If we had blockaded them, they would have perfected their own atomic 
bomb, they would have perfected their jet, their long range 
intercontential bomber, etc - all of which they were working on. 

As for bombing them, they could do like the Chinese did when bombed by 
Japan, build factories in caves under mountains - of which Japan has 
many. 

>Yes, but those lives would have been primarily soldiers.

No, those primarily would have been Japanese women, children and elderly. 
I have spoken to older Japanese and they confirmed that they were taught 
to use spears to attack the expected American invaders. Watch the tapes 
of Japanese families jumping to their deaths in Okinawa because of the 
fear of American take over. 


>The responsibility for taking thousands of civilian lives rested on the 
>shoulders of Harry S. Truman.

Hirohito was reponsible for about 10,000,000 - 15,000,000 civilian deaths 
in China, Phillipines, Malaysia, Burma, etc. and a few in Pearl Harbor 
and probably some Korean comfort girls too. However, he lived quite a bit 
longer than Harry Truman. I think he just died 10 years ago at a ripe old 
age. So much for justice, huh? 

And what about that bastard Winston Churchill, who ordered the bombing of 
German cities? The US believed in pinpoint bombing of factories and 
military targets. But the Brits like firebombing cities like Dresden. 

Yeah, there are all kinds of bastards and sons of bitches. Especially 
that choir boy Joseph Stalin. Did you hear what happened to the German 
people, when the Russian soldiers came to town?

Why don't you quit trying to blame every thing on the United States. 
You're stupid fucks who don't know history.