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Hendrik wrote
>The US feels its interests are being threatened, and steps 
>in to secure... whatever, oil supply, other interests.  At the onset, 

Where does Europe get its oil? Did you know that the US has a lower 
percentage of foreign oil than Japan and Europe. We have many oil rigs in 
the US, even in my beautiful and trendy beachside town there are oil 
rigs. There is also Mexico, or neighbor to the south, and Venezuela. So 
did we do for ourselves selfishly as you are implying? Or did we did we 
do for the world, including your world Hendrik?

>it was _not_ (NOT) their war, but they _choose_ to intervene. 

When the Nazi's invaded France and Belgium and the rest, we should have 
stayed out of it. THe US, Britain and Canada choose to land at Normany 
Beach on D-Day (as in "Saving Private Ryan"). 

So according to your view, we should have allowed Saddam Hussein to take 
over Kuwait and Saudi Arabia and controla bout half the world's oil 
supply, then jack up the prices, then buy technolgy for atomic bombs and 
missiles, destroy Israel completely, then create a new evil superpower 
which eventually takes over Europe and the US. 

You're right, thats far better. I can learn to speak Iraqi Arabic, and 
grow a mustache like Saddams. I think I would look good in those green 
army fatiques and black berets of the Iraqi army. Its too bad the knocked 
down the World Trade Center, we could have put up a giant painting of 
Saddam Hussein on it, when he takes over New York. You can put Saddam 
Hussein paintings on your dikes, and turn your colorful windmill blades 
into Arabic swords. 

Hendrik, its great you're so liberal, and I think its good for people to 
question the US because any power should be questioned. But is your 
hatred for America so great you don't have much common sense left?

>Obviously, you now suddenly can say that anything the US does is a 
>war-act (ignoring the simple fact that they mingled in a war not 
>their own, out of their own free will).  And so all of a sudden all 
>the killing is justified, since it's just "war acts"???

Did the US invade Kuwait, kill many people, rape many women .... or did 
Iraq do that? You're right, the US is staring all these things. We have 
to stop flying our planes into our own buildings just to justify our 
national pastime of going to war and getting our boys sent home in body 
bags. Thats we love -  killing others, and having ourselves killed.

>Reasoning this way, you can always justify any killing: first call 
>the entire situation 'war', and then defend each act as an 
>'unavoidable war-act'.  How's that for logic...

During the Gulf War, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi POWs were taken, 
treated fairly and repatriated. It would have been pretty easy to kill 
them all - you're out in the dessert, no one around, ... just machine gun 
them all.