The Logic Off Topic list

We seem to be going in circles here. Yes the Japanese did surrender - but 
only after a change of leadership in a sense - that change of leadership 
was precipitated by the atomic bombs - there for if there were no atomic 
bombs, there woiuld have been no change in leadership, and the hardliners 
would have prevailed, and you would have a north korea style isolated 
hostile country in Japan. 

Actually, I seem to recall that there was a Potsdam declaration asking 
for Japan to surrender BEFORE the atomic bombings, and they ignored that.

I also on tv today something about how the British firebombed Hamburg and 
killed 40,000 in one night. War is hell. 

>I think I was just saying below read what you wrote - the Japanese must have
>been willing to surrender after two atomic bombs and the firebombing of
>Tokyo, because they did surrender.  I am not making that up - ?
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>> The History channel just ran an hour show about Hirohito last week - he
>> had been largely a figurehead - not unlike the Queen of England. Tojo and
>> other military shoguns were running the country. AFTER the second atomic
>> blast at Nagasaki, they still wanted to fight to the last man (or woman
>> or child). It was only at that point that Hirohito stepped and actually
>> took charge and said enough is enough.