The Logic Off Topic list

>wow; on a very basic level, i find myself somewhat stunned by your 
>(?studious?) naivetE, here.....

I may be naive, but I'm not so dense as to see that the longest running 
and most controversial spot in the world for the last half century has 
been Israel. 

>b) to oversimplify, here; the brits offered what was purportedly 'their' 
>land 

If so, why was their an armed conflict against the Arabs in the area 
which drove them from their homes, and Jewish terrorist campagn against 
the British?


>to the jews --- a core of jews had already established themselves as 
>settlers, there, struggling and *building* a communal/democratic society 
>for 
>some time.

Small numbers were welcomed by the arabs, until they decided to overwhelm 
their hosts.


>but, why *would* they go back to what were once their 'homes'?, when:
>a) they had nothing left, there, & there were certainly no welcoming arms,
>b) they hadn't been allowed 'citizenship' in germany until the late 
>1800's, & 
>then only when they accepted government-issued last names which clearly 
>marked them as 'outsiders' --- even those who were 'culturally assimilated',

Japanese and Asians were not allowed to become US citizens easily. In 
fact, many of the "Japanese Americans" rounded up and put into camps in 
the Western US, were technically "Japanese" citizens. However, even with 
all the hatred directed toward them, they stayed, they rebuilt, they went 
on with their lives, and became wealthier on average than white Americans.

>c) most of them had been hounded from place-to-place in the region for 
>generations-upon-generations

They seemed to have fairly stable lives up until 1930s.


>d) there was the promise of a 'new beginning', somewhere?

Because that somewhere was not theres to take or to be given.

>there are *hundreds* of authoritative books and articles 
>available on this intensely complex subject --- if you're truly curious, 
>there is a wealth of materials available for your edification.

Like that piece that Tiran sent around? Are these "authoritative" books 
written to justify the unjustifiable?