The Logic Off Topic list

John Reading wrote on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 2:05 PM:
> /Sent: 
> /To: logic-users@y...
> /Subject: RE: [LUG] [OT] Chemical Brothers 4th Album
> /
> /> Aren't we getting extremely OT?
> /
> /Well, I shall round it back. In the new copy of remix, they talk about
> /how they had to ditch cubase becuase of lack of tdm plugin support and
> /how logic was all-around more stable:
> /
> /http://www.industryclick.com/magazinearticle.asp?magazineid=48&
> /releaseid
> /=9734&magazinearticleid=137375&siteid=15

I think a lot of pro and semi-pro musicians turn to Logic because of this. It's as if Steinberg has abandoned the Mac support and it has abandoned the TDM support for sure. I think Cubase has always been more stable on Macs than on PCs. Reading some messages on Cubase forums, where all of a sudden Cubase starts running like wild, scares the hell out of me, :-).

> /BTW, I saw the video for star guitar (i believe) and it was one of the
> /coolest videos I've ever seen. It was shot out the side of a train and
> /the landscape that rushed by was synched to the music. ie: 
> /trees came in
> /triplets (hihats), tunnels were the breakdown. I have no idea how they
> /did that, but it was amazing.

Yeah, I saw that video about a week ago. Cool video, but I wouldn't classify it as "the coolest video I've ever seen". Have you noticed that the scenes are computer animated? They generated everything, AFAIK. Hmm, I didn't notice the syncing. Next time I'll pay more attention, :-).

--- In logic-ot@y..., "Martin, Jeremy" <martje@n...> wrote:
> I saw them (supposedly - it's my theory a large number of the more famous
> musicians don't really exist and sound at concerts is generated through mass
> consciousness, probably some sort of signal everyone generates picked up by
> some alien device and fed into the speakers and piles of subs they had at
> the show:) at the Coachella Music and Arts festival this summer in Indio
> California. The whole set that night in the "insomniac tent" was really
> excellent, it all blended together wonderfully, I didn't even notice the
> change in performers at all. It Began In Afrika was *AMAZING* live, all the
> mp3's I've heard of it were really crappy remixes, about 5% the quality
> level of the live set.

You shouldn't hear mp3s, :-). Electronic music, IMO, needs good CD or DVD playback. I don't know, but every time I hear a Quicktime file, it sounds way better than an mp3. Although it's compressed. Quicktime is one of the Apple products I like very much. But I don't know what it does to my machine sometimes. The machine sometimes just hangs, when using Quicktime, but that may be my old internet machine, :-).

 After hearing Chemical Brothers and Fatboy Slim live
> I can't believe how their CD's can possibly sound so CRAPPY compared to
> their live performances, that's why I had to invent the alien device
> music-enhancement theory to retain my sanity.

Oh, that's just the experience of a live show, :-). It sounds much larger, much more alive. CDs in that sense are very clinical, unless you have some good acoustical recordings. Besides, CDs are mixed and mastered so they can also sound good on a boombox, so...

 That concert was -so-
> incredible though, there were literally piles and piles of huge speakers and
> subwoofers in every corner in the rectangular shaped tent as well as two
> more giant piles in the middle on either side... It sounded like the entire
> Earth was making the bass, like all the mountains were shaking, it's
> impossible to describe. :) 

A couple of kW will do that to you. I mix a band regularly, and we mostly play small to medium large places, like bars, school parties etc. We mostly use our own PA for these, which isn't such a big setup; only a couple of hundred Watt system. A couple of weeks ago we had to do a school party gig, and we rented a PA, a couple of kW. That was the first time since I've been with the band for a year, that I said "yes, this is how the bass and kick should sound". Power gives you another experience. Don't know if those low frequency waves  have a good affect on you. I had to get out of a disco once, because the low frequencies were making me almost vomit, :-).
Cheers,
Yoonchi.