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>>Also, the quality is not as good as a real press.
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>Have you heard an mp3 file? Beside "the real thing"?
>I don't think anyone's going to care too much about the quality, actually, 
>given the possible "convenience" factor!!! As with mp3's.
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There's a difference between MP3's that are played on computers or hifi 
chains or car systems and a lacker where a DJ tries to give a creative 
performance in front of a crowd, but because of the lacker has to be 
careful that the needle doesn't jump back and forth.
I work with DJ's almost every weekend, I can tell you many of them are 
disgusted by vinyl that causes problems.

>>The discs are more
>>easily worn out. It's a little better than a "lacker", but not that much
>>better.
>>So I don't think they'll be a big commercial success.
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>They don't have to be a big commercial success. They just have to help 
>"pirates" "spread" music a little. After all, another one can always be 
>pressed at no inconvenience at all.
>Not that I am condoning it, by the way. Just being realistic. Just saying 
>... I don't think the reasons you've given are good enough reasons to doubt 
>the potential popularity of these portable vinyl presses in certain quarters.
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Well, I'm quite familiar with the "club scene", and I'm 200% sure that 
those presses won't cause piratery problems. Not just because of the 
limitations of those small presses and the limited quality of the 
product, but also because the cost of making it is _really_ expensive. 
The cost of making a copy is more expensive than buying the original. 
Reason: you have to buy a special kind of vinyl that's very specific and 
that can only be obtained from limited sources. Costprice of that 
"empty" vinyl: the same price of a normal 12". There's no point in using 
it for copying. What these machines are good for, is to allow small club 
labels to press a couple of exclusive promo's, or to try out a song in a 
club before mastering it etc. And for that purpose, those machines will 
do well.

The place where you have piracy in the club scene, is in the young DJ's 
who don't have any success yet and who's not playing in the big places. 
Some of them work with CD, minidisc and even laptops with MP3's. That's 
the only "competition" for vinyl there is at the moment, and even then, 
it's not big.
I do wonder though how CD will evolve. There are now Cd players that 
allow you to scratch as well, and those are quite flexible and allow 
things vinyl can't do. It started with a Pioneer CD player, but now more 
and more brands are releasing such devices. I'm curious to see how this 
will develop. This can be the only threat for vinyl. And once you say 
CD, you also say copying and MP3, so then there'll be a piracy problem.

Bye,
Joeri

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