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On Thursday, October 10, 2002, at 04:28  AM, logic-ot@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:

> Subject: RE: [LUG] [GEN] Peter Gabriel and Logic
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ChristianH [mailto:chris@s...]
>
> Hard to say which people are the greater S holes - greedy record Co.s
> pissing off honest buyers, or millions of people stealing music by the
> gigabyte.

That depends on the situation.  Ethics go down the tubes in many 
different situations.

> Let's see, what came first - copy protection or MP3...? ;-(

Technically speaking...the copy protection.  But in light of this, it 
would be MP3.

> --------------
> The inability for the record companies to think of new revenue streams 
> and
> secure, digital distribution systems before these hackers came to be.  
> This
> would have alleviated the proliferation of audio piracy as there would 
> have
> been a simple mechanism by way of ease of charging for copyrighted 
> material.

The last company I was working for, we were contracted by another 
company.  Our developers were assigned on a project dealing exactly 
with this topic.  The problem was the company went belly up.  My boss 
footed a lot of resources to help them as venture partnership.  The 
real problem was...despite all the connections these people had, and we 
are talking big connects.  None of them really wanted to get involved 
in the process.  They were talking the talk, but not walking fast 
enough with the walk.

But, you might want to say that true dullards were in fact some of the 
people at the opposite side of meeting table.  We were on our way to a 
very good idea...the problem was the economy.  Which to me is really 
funny...because most don't see that we have been in a slump since the 
last quarter of 2000!  So to me the reality of CD sales being in slump 
has really nothing to do with piracy, but a slumped economy and rather 
poor judgment of the music being produced.  If the material ain't 
strong enough, people seem to exercise more prudent judgment when 
dealing with their wallets in a slumped economic structure.  This is 
just an excuse to use as a weapon against mp3 distribution.

>
> Sure it woulda happened inevtably anyway, but really, you gotta ask 
> why 8
> years after the Intenet became a populous communications tool, do the 
> record
> companies still not have a proper digital rights distribution system?

They don't...not at all.  The CD copy protection is not Fail 
safe...Yet, most genuine crackers can wreak havoc and figure out ways 
to crack it.  It is not worth the money to spend on it, only to have it 
circumvented very easily.  Yet, this is because everybody and their 
mother has an Idea to handle these concepts....yet most of them are 
bad, and don't really have a lot of forethought as to what the future 
will bring.  So really, it is no longer about a fix it now solution.  
It is more about, "after we spend X million dollars on this...what 
happens in the future?"  Most I believe are waiting for Rights 
distribution that holds up into the future.  The real problem now is no 
one understands what to do....the industry is filled with "lamers", and 
it is obvious too.  I mean the whole idea of "sending out demos of CD, 
in a CD player sealed with glue".  Here, let me just slam this on the 
floor, and bingo I am got the CD...they ask for it back...huh, it was 
on my desk a minute ago, now I don't know where it is...I'll get back 
to you as soon as I find it.  Simple...yet maybe some are to lame to 
figure it out...LOL.

Most talk like they do know what is going on or what to do, but they 
don't.  The future is bringing us into the Digital Hub technology, and 
is truly the future, just look at how Apple is handling it.  Most 
people in the music industry, and even some movie industry people don't 
understand this...Because most are total lamers, hell they barely know 
how to burn their own CD's...LOL.

I think the only people that have a real grasp on the future is George 
Lucas and Peter Gabriel.  Yes, I say Peter Gabriel, because I have been 
watching his every move since PG I.  His website is screaming to become 
the next Online RealWorld distributer of music, that will distribute to 
other services.  Yet in some ways, he already has, in terms of being 
able to get license to film and TV producers.  Yet, almost  the same 
goes for George Lucas.  Boeing is reeeeaaaallll active in this area as 
well.  One of our clients is a company that deals in streaming 
technology for Directors and Producers, allowing people to see 
encrypted satellite daily's.  So, perhaps a few others understand this. 
  But the "Digital Hub" and "On Demand" technology will be the course of 
action to take, with regards to Digital rights and distribution.  
Consumer Ownership, being distinctly offshoot service, that will slowly 
die off.

But I think this is what worry most record companies the most.  Their 
Jobs...personally, it is going to happen.  It will also be better 
regulated more so, than ever.  Which in my mind, may get too oppressive 
for some.  [But that is dealing with whole other issue based on 
societies, Have and Have Not syndrome, which is becoming more prevalent 
today].
But far less costly...than trying to keep up with consumer 
infringements. But really, we are not the ones to worry 
about...government is the one to worry about.  Chump changing every one 
at every turn...that will be something that blows up in their face, as 
we break into the new future of digital asset management and 
distribution.  I could go into a lot of details about this...but it 
would take a while to explain.  But really, most of you might be really 
naive to one thing...how to manage your rights, against millions of 
infringements.  You will spend more time managing this effort, than 
actually making music...really.  So it is inevitable that this is way 
the future will nullify the infringements, in a more friendlier fashion.

However, that being said...Who here has about $30,000.000.00 US and 
twelve angry programmers, and a fastidious lawyer and good writer to 
tweek a good business proposal.  As we are all talking about this, we 
could start our own venture that would put us ahead of the game.  We 
would be Rich...I tell ya...RICH!!!  Like PHAT capitalist Plasma Blobs 
rolling in cash, prostitutes, and cuban cigars.

Peace,
Alexis