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I'm back for more punishment. ;)

> 
>   Jeremy has been censoring people's posts and I am not just talking 
> about mine.  And he has said he is proud to be a censor. 

I  am also proud Jeremy is the censor.  If he was not the censor, I probably 
wouldn't be back here.  I have total faith in Jeremy's censorship.

Interesting fact: I was one of the early extra moderators signed up for the LUG, 
and I was also offered the "moderatorship" of the other Logic-oriented lists, 
including this one.  I thought this list was far too out of control to be the "logic 
lounge" I would have hoped, and I saw that it would be more work than I had 
time to do.  Now that Jeremy has not only taken the job, but proven he's up to 
the task, I think it's worth coming back to.  Admittedly, at the moment it's mostly 
posts about posting, but I think when that is over, this will be a far more 
valuable, community-oriented place than it ever was before.

> More than 
> one person on this list has told me personally that they probably 
> won't be hanging around if that is the policy and I am not too sure I 
> will either.

Ok, here's my take on things, as simply as I can put it:
1) I'd like a "logic lounge" where I can hang out with other Logic users, and 
chat.
2) I don't want to read self-oppointed political experts vomit forth their 
"wisdom" in a Logic Lounge.
3) I don't want to read self-appointed computer experts tell me that Apple 
sucks, my Mac sucks, and I suck for using one.
4) I want to be comfortable that 2 and 3 won't be allowed to slip through.
5) I feel that anyone finds it so distasteful that they need to contain their 
hateful, confrontational posts that they threaten to leave...well, I'm not sure 
their antisocial poison is really necessary.

My personal take on things is that people who post hateful diatribes (on 
anything--people, regions, computer systems, etc) should be banned.  And 
trust me, if I were a moderator of this group (and you never know...I might just 
be one day :) ), I'd be a censoring, banning motherfucker.  And after all the 
defections of those who resent being taken to task for their hatred, those of us 
left would be a rather pleasant group, able to discuss our likes and dislikes 
and uses of Logic regardless of our personal or political backgrounds.

> It strikes me that we are entering the golden age of denial.

I think it is denial to think that people are capable of conducting themselves 
properly in complete anarchy.  There must be order of some sort.  These lists 
are not a democracy.  They are an "oligarchy" (rule by the few).  Anyone who 
doesn't like it, start your own!  My God, yahoo groups is an easy place to start 
a list; someone doesn't like the way this list is run, take your own initiative, 
don't badger Jeremy for his!

But just a story some of you may know: one of the engineers on the motu-mac 
list got so upset with the Moderator of said list for his censorship, he started 
his own list, motu-masters.  That list ended up being even MORE tightly 
controlled!

Peace, Love, and Marshmellows,
The Lord Of Wolves

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